NFL Week 16 - Page 6

EagleFan · 12-21-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

The Eagles have no one to blame but themselves...dropped passes...horrible passes...dropped Ints. They piss me off.

Anyone else not surprised the game ended like that? I knew they were going to end up with a play over the middle in the field of play, just figured it wasn't going to be quite as close as it was.

Can we get rid of Reid now?

Out of 64 plays they ran 16 times.... 16 freaking times!!!!

Win over Cleveland: 33 rush, 38 pass
Win over Giants: 42 rush, 30 pass
Win over Arizona: 40 rush, 39 pass

It doesn't take a genius to see a pattern. They averaged 3.9 per rush today so it's not like it was 16 carries for 10 yards and at least had an excuse to not want to run. They were only briefly down more than 1 score and that was early in the 3rd so there isn't even the excuse that they had to pass because they were so far behind.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-21-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

what's the nfl record for fumbles in a game?

I don't know the record, but I'd be willing to bet Tony Banks was the QB of one of the teams involved.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-21-2008, 06:39 PM

Len Dawson has the individual fumble record, 7 in a game, back in 1964.

Most Fumbles Lost, Game
8 St. Louis vs. Washington, Oct. 25, 1976
Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh, Dec. 23, 1990

7 Cincinnati vs. Buffalo, Nov. 30, 1969
Pittsburgh vs. Cincinnati, Oct. 14, 1979
Cleveland vs. Seattle, Dec. 20, 1981

6 By many teams

Most Fumbles, Game
10 Phil-Pitt vs. N.Y. Giants, Oct. 9, 1943
Detroit vs. Minnesota, Nov. 12, 1967
Kansas City vs. Houston, Oct. 12, 1969
San Francisco vs. Detroit, Dec. 17, 1978

9 Philadelphia vs. Green Bay, Oct. 13, 1946
Kansas City vs. San Diego, Nov. 15, 1964
N.Y. Giants vs. Buffalo, Oct. 20, 1975
St. Louis vs. Washington, Oct. 25, 1976
San Diego vs. Green Bay, Sept. 24, 1978
Pittsburgh vs. Cincinnati, Oct. 14, 1979
Cleveland vs. Seattle, Dec. 20, 1981
Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh, Dec. 23, 1990
Oakland vs. Seattle, Dec. 22, 1996

8 By many teams

Izulde · 12-21-2008, 06:39 PM

Let me add my congratulations to the Falcons as well.

I'm so pumped that we pulled out the win over the Chiefs and have a chance to go from a 1 win season to AFC East champions the next!!!!!

Even sweeter, my opponent in the fantasy football championship had their worst day of the season, with 33 points on the week.

Which means I'm sitting fairly well right now. 70 points and I've got DeAngelo and Boss going tonight.

EagleFan · 12-21-2008, 06:50 PM

WTF? That "reporter" is an idiot. What kind of question is that? "Do you think your daughter should have married a better guy?"

In case you didn't hear it. A reporter badgering (badger badger badger) the Lions coach about his son-in-law and asks that question after the coach wouldn't take his earlier bait.

EagleFan · 12-21-2008, 06:51 PM

I think I need to fire up a FPS for a bit, need to get some of the Eagles induced frustration out.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

WTF? That "reporter" is an idiot. What kind of question is that? "Do you think your daughter should have married a better guy?"

In case you didn't hear it. A reporter badgering (badger badger badger) the Lions coach about his son-in-law and asks that question after the coach wouldn't take his earlier bait.

It's Rob Parker, and he's an idiot.

I still laughed though because it's so absurd to ask, and I am shocked he asked it.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-21-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

WTF? That "reporter" is an idiot. What kind of question is that? "Do you think your daughter should have married a better guy?"

I think it was "a better defensive coordinator".

Seems like a fair line of questioning given the pathetic state of affairs (the frustration of the last joke question notwithstanding) questioning why anyone in their locker room is still employed is pretty reasonable.

bhlloy · 12-21-2008, 07:04 PM

Seems to me, if you hire a family member to a high profile position on your staff, and he does a shitty job, you open yourself up to questions like that.

Not the classiest thing I've ever heard, but nice to see somebody asking the tough questions up there. Clearly Ford isn't going to... he seems perfectly happy with the worst franchise in football.

JeeberD · 12-21-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Woohoo! Johnnie Lee is going to get his first start on Sunday!

Injuries force wide receiver Higgins into Raiders' spotlight

(That was for you, RA)

Three receptions for 59 yards and a TD, plus an 80 yard punt return for a TD (his third of the year, one shy of the NFL record). One of the few bright spots for me this NFL week...

RainMaker · 12-21-2008, 07:12 PM

It's a classless post to bring someone's daughter into the conversation.

But it's Rob Parker, another ESPN clown. He'll probably get his own show over there now.

EagleFan · 12-21-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Seems to me, if you hire a family member to a high profile position on your staff, and he does a shitty job, you open yourself up to questions like that.

Not the classiest thing I've ever heard, but nice to see somebody asking the tough questions up there. Clearly Ford isn't going to... he seems perfectly happy with the worst franchise in football.

Ask him anything about the job, ask him anything aout maybe not hiring a family member but that question hs NOTHING to do with getting to the bottom of anything football related and it's only purpose was to get the reporter in the news and being talked about. It was a self serving questin and I guess I took the bait since I posted about it.

Oh well, back to loading up BiA.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-21-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

It's a classless post to bring someone's daughter into the conversation.

Marinelli did that the second he hired the guy.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 07:40 PM

DEANGELO!

Radii · 12-21-2008, 07:58 PM

That drive by the giants took FOREVER. Ugh, gotta get them off the field next time.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2008, 08:20 PM

Horrible play by Ross on that pass. You HAVE to at least break that pass up, not let it go through your hands like that.

ISiddiqui · 12-21-2008, 09:24 PM

Falcons clinched a Wild Card. I'm in shock. After last year, I simply can't believe it.

Senator · 12-21-2008, 09:29 PM

Cowboys back in it!

Thanks Philly and Tampa.

st.cronin · 12-21-2008, 09:36 PM

Do I have this correct: If New England wins, and either Baltimore or Miami lose, the Pats make the playoffs?

Radii · 12-21-2008, 09:38 PM

Deangelo Williams now has 11 TDs in his last 4 games. Carolina needed that score so badly, whew.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 09:56 PM

Carolina has all of a sudden forgotten how to tackle.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-21-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Do I have this correct: If New England wins, and either Baltimore or Miami lose, the Pats make the playoffs?

Correct

If NE wins and Miami loses, NE wins the East and gets the 3 seed.

If NE and Miami both win, Miami wins East. Balimore losing would put them at 10-6, NE at 11-5, NE in the 6 seed.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:02 PM

Decent drive by the giants but that was some truly terrible defending by Carolina. It feels like the Giants will win if they get the ball back. A clock killing drive and last second Kasay FG seems to be in order.

MrDNA · 12-21-2008, 10:05 PM

Just the kind of game you'd expect to determine the #1 seed. As an impartial observer, I am really enjoying it.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:08 PM

oh god killer penalty

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 10:14 PM

No good! Going to OT. If the Giants get the ball 1st, they'll win it and the Panthers won't even get the ball back.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:14 PM

damn.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:15 PM

I fully expect whoever gets this first to win.

sabotai · 12-21-2008, 10:16 PM

Regardless of what happens in OT, I'm just happy the Giants played a good game instead of the eggs they laid (especially on offense) the last 2 weeks.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Regardless of what happens in OT, I'm just happy the Giants played a good game instead of the eggs they laid (especially on offense) the last 2 weeks.

I am happy to see Carolina play better on the road vs a quality opponent, but Carolina has much more riding on this game since they still haven't wrapped up the division. They *really* need to find a way to get a defensive stop here and win this game.

RainMaker · 12-21-2008, 10:24 PM

As a Bears fan, I'd love to see a tie here and the Giants have to play for something next week against the Vikes.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2008, 10:24 PM

Fox is being way too conservative. Has been like this the entire second half.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Fox is being way too conservative. Has been like this most of the last 3 seasons.

Fixed that for you.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Fixed that for you.

Well played.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Well played.

Early in the season when I was flipping out about Carolina playing poorly and thinking Fox would be fired if they didn't start winning more, his play calling was my biggest gripe.

Chief Rum · 12-21-2008, 10:32 PM

I am going to go on a hunch and say I shoulda kept DeAngelo in instead of starting Westbrook today at RB.

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 10:33 PM

The Giants drove all the way down the field and didn't even complete a pass. Great game by Derrick Ward.

MrDNA · 12-21-2008, 10:34 PM

Derrick Ward probably caused a lot of upsets in the fantasy football world today.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:35 PM

And now we go straight into the nightmare scenario.

Atlanta hosts St Louis next week, Carolina plays at the Saints. Carolina is now 3-4 on the road and has not beaten a team with a winning record on the road. No NFC South team has lost at home vs a division opponent yet this year. Atlanta has the tiebreaker over Carolina. Ugh.

Grats to the Giants. I'm not surprised the Giants won in the end but after the first half am very disappointed that Carolina squandered the lead and couldn't take advantage of their chances to win.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA

Derrick Ward probably caused a lot of upsets in the fantasy football world today.

DeAngelo Williams has likely won my FF super bowl for me, pending MNF.

Chief Rum · 12-21-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Carolina is now 3-4 on the road and has not beaten a team with a winning record on the road.

To be fair, winning teams (above .500) this season, if my math is right, are 104-41 at home, so it's not like it's easy to go to such a place and win. I think there are a lot of very good teams that actually haven't beaten a winning team on the road.

Radii · 12-21-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

To be fair, winning teams (above .500) this season, if my math is right, are 104-41 at home, so it's not like it's easy to go to such a place and win. I think there are a lot of very good teams that actually haven't beaten a winning team on the road.

True, and this week eases my fears about Carolina on the road a little. Their last couple road losses were defeats at Tampa and Atlanta where they were completely dominated. Just showing they can put up a good fight on the road against a quality team is an improvement.

What they really need of course is a win at New Orleans next week. I don't hate Atlanta as much as i used to but Atlanta winning the NFC South would just be completely unacceptable!

Chief Rum · 12-21-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

True, and this week eases my fears about Carolina on the road a little. Their last couple road losses were defeats at Tampa and Atlanta where they were completely dominated. Just showing they can put up a good fight on the road against a quality team is an improvement.

What they really need of course is a win at New Orleans next week. I don't hate Atlanta as much as i used to but Atlanta winning the NFC South would just be completely unacceptable!

Heh...I hear you, recognizing the fan speech. But as someone who has no dog in the race, I find it sorta funny to see this possibilty, what with the NFC South's notorious habit of worst to first division finishes.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

True, and this week eases my fears about Carolina on the road a little. Their last couple road losses were defeats at Tampa and Atlanta where they were completely dominated. Just showing they can put up a good fight on the road against a quality team is an improvement.

What they really need of course is a win at New Orleans next week. I don't hate Atlanta as much as i used to but Atlanta winning the NFC South would just be completely unacceptable!

by unacceptable you mean completely wonderful right??

FBPro · 12-22-2008, 12:07 AM

I am so pumped about the Falcons, but more than just making the playoffs or their record is the fact that it seems that they have assembled a top notch organization from the ground up.

henry296 · 12-22-2008, 07:51 AM

If Atlanta does win the division it continues the NFC South streak of worst to worst going. Based on that, I like NO next week.

MIJB#19 · 12-22-2008, 10:17 AM

Heh, it looks like I missed the Atlanta Falcons' clinch scenario for this week, despite figuring out all the 2 and 3 way tie stuff. :oops:

Alan T · 12-22-2008, 10:23 AM

I am now a huge Week 17 Saints fan!

Suburban Rhythm · 12-22-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii

DeAngelo Williams has likely won my FF super bowl for me, pending MNF.

+1

In my league, the 6th seed (last in) will end up winning. I lost to him week 14, when Williams had his prior 4 TD game. I lead him by 35 heading into MNF and he beat me. And on the back of Williams he'll win the league.

Thomkal · 12-22-2008, 11:53 AM

I am now a huge Week 17 Philly fan!

I'd much rather Arizona get Tampa or Atlanta than Dallas in the first round of the playoffs. I doubt Tampa's going to lay an egg against Oakland, so that leaves the Eagles out too.

12-21-2008, 06:39 PM	#253
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Len Dawson has the individual fumble record, 7 in a game, back in 1964. Most Fumbles Lost, Game 8 St. Louis vs. Washington, Oct. 25, 1976 Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh, Dec. 23, 1990 7 Cincinnati vs. Buffalo, Nov. 30, 1969 Pittsburgh vs. Cincinnati, Oct. 14, 1979 Cleveland vs. Seattle, Dec. 20, 1981 6 By many teams Most Fumbles, Game 10 Phil-Pitt vs. N.Y. Giants, Oct. 9, 1943 Detroit vs. Minnesota, Nov. 12, 1967 Kansas City vs. Houston, Oct. 12, 1969 San Francisco vs. Detroit, Dec. 17, 1978 9 Philadelphia vs. Green Bay, Oct. 13, 1946 Kansas City vs. San Diego, Nov. 15, 1964 N.Y. Giants vs. Buffalo, Oct. 20, 1975 St. Louis vs. Washington, Oct. 25, 1976 San Diego vs. Green Bay, Sept. 24, 1978 Pittsburgh vs. Cincinnati, Oct. 14, 1979 Cleveland vs. Seattle, Dec. 20, 1981 Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh, Dec. 23, 1990 Oakland vs. Seattle, Dec. 22, 1996 8 By many teams __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 12-21-2008 at 06:39 PM.

12-21-2008, 06:39 PM	#254
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Let me add my congratulations to the Falcons as well. I'm so pumped that we pulled out the win over the Chiefs and have a chance to go from a 1 win season to AFC East champions the next!!!!! Even sweeter, my opponent in the fantasy football championship had their worst day of the season, with 33 points on the week. Which means I'm sitting fairly well right now. 70 points and I've got DeAngelo and Boss going tonight. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

12-21-2008, 09:24 PM	#267
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Falcons clinched a Wild Card. I'm in shock. After last year, I simply can't believe it. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

12-21-2008, 09:29 PM	#268
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Cowboys back in it! Thanks Philly and Tampa. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

12-21-2008, 09:36 PM	#269
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Do I have this correct: If New England wins, and either Baltimore or Miami lose, the Pats make the playoffs? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-21-2008, 06:50 PM	#255
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	WTF? That "reporter" is an idiot. What kind of question is that? "Do you think your daughter should have married a better guy?" In case you didn't hear it. A reporter badgering (badger badger badger) the Lions coach about his son-in-law and asks that question after the coach wouldn't take his earlier bait.

12-21-2008, 06:51 PM	#256
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I think I need to fire up a FPS for a bit, need to get some of the Eagles induced frustration out.

12-21-2008, 07:04 PM	#259
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Seems to me, if you hire a family member to a high profile position on your staff, and he does a shitty job, you open yourself up to questions like that. Not the classiest thing I've ever heard, but nice to see somebody asking the tough questions up there. Clearly Ford isn't going to... he seems perfectly happy with the worst franchise in football.

12-21-2008, 07:12 PM	#261
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It's a classless post to bring someone's daughter into the conversation. But it's Rob Parker, another ESPN clown. He'll probably get his own show over there now.

12-21-2008, 07:40 PM	#264
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	DEANGELO!

12-21-2008, 07:58 PM	#265
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That drive by the giants took FOREVER. Ugh, gotta get them off the field next time.

12-21-2008, 08:20 PM	#266
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Horrible play by Ross on that pass. You HAVE to at least break that pass up, not let it go through your hands like that.

12-21-2008, 09:38 PM	#270
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Deangelo Williams now has 11 TDs in his last 4 games. Carolina needed that score so badly, whew.

12-21-2008, 09:56 PM	#271
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Carolina has all of a sudden forgotten how to tackle.

12-21-2008, 10:02 PM	#273
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Decent drive by the giants but that was some truly terrible defending by Carolina. It feels like the Giants will win if they get the ball back. A clock killing drive and last second Kasay FG seems to be in order.

12-21-2008, 10:05 PM	#274
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	Just the kind of game you'd expect to determine the #1 seed. As an impartial observer, I am really enjoying it. __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

12-21-2008, 10:08 PM	#275
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	oh god killer penalty

12-21-2008, 10:14 PM	#276
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	No good! Going to OT. If the Giants get the ball 1st, they'll win it and the Panthers won't even get the ball back.

12-21-2008, 10:14 PM	#277
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	damn.

12-21-2008, 10:15 PM	#278
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I fully expect whoever gets this first to win.

12-21-2008, 10:16 PM	#279
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Regardless of what happens in OT, I'm just happy the Giants played a good game instead of the eggs they laid (especially on offense) the last 2 weeks.

12-21-2008, 10:24 PM	#281
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	As a Bears fan, I'd love to see a tie here and the Giants have to play for something next week against the Vikes. Last edited by RainMaker : 12-21-2008 at 10:24 PM.

12-21-2008, 10:24 PM	#282
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Fox is being way too conservative. Has been like this the entire second half.

12-21-2008, 10:32 PM	#286
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I am going to go on a hunch and say I shoulda kept DeAngelo in instead of starting Westbrook today at RB. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

12-21-2008, 10:33 PM	#287
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The Giants drove all the way down the field and didn't even complete a pass. Great game by Derrick Ward.

12-21-2008, 10:34 PM	#288
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	Derrick Ward probably caused a lot of upsets in the fantasy football world today. __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

12-21-2008, 10:35 PM	#289
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	And now we go straight into the nightmare scenario. Atlanta hosts St Louis next week, Carolina plays at the Saints. Carolina is now 3-4 on the road and has not beaten a team with a winning record on the road. No NFC South team has lost at home vs a division opponent yet this year. Atlanta has the tiebreaker over Carolina. Ugh. Grats to the Giants. I'm not surprised the Giants won in the end but after the first half am very disappointed that Carolina squandered the lead and couldn't take advantage of their chances to win.

12-22-2008, 12:07 AM	#295
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	I am so pumped about the Falcons, but more than just making the playoffs or their record is the fact that it seems that they have assembled a top notch organization from the ground up. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

12-22-2008, 07:51 AM	#296
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	If Atlanta does win the division it continues the NFC South streak of worst to worst going. Based on that, I like NO next week. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

12-22-2008, 10:17 AM	#297
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Heh, it looks like I missed the Atlanta Falcons' clinch scenario for this week, despite figuring out all the 2 and 3 way tie stuff. :oops: __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

12-22-2008, 10:23 AM	#298
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I am now a huge Week 17 Saints fan! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-22-2008, 11:53 AM	#300
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I am now a huge Week 17 Philly fan! I'd much rather Arizona get Tampa or Atlanta than Dallas in the first round of the playoffs. I doubt Tampa's going to lay an egg against Oakland, so that leaves the Eagles out too.

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