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Old 01-01-2008, 08:09 PM   #251
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the sugar bowl selection committee?

Actually they had no choice in the matter. Blame the Fiesta Bowl.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:09 PM   #252
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I'm not even a little bit surprised by this.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:11 PM   #253
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Exactly. This is a Hawaii team whose best win is against Boise State. They aren't going to be able to match up athletically with Georgia. This shouldn't surprise anyone.

I know it's likely that Hawaii will get blown out of the water, but there is a lot of football left to be played here. Remember that USC/Oklahoma title game from a few years back? Oklahoma shredded the SC defense on the first drive, and then we all know how that wound up.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:13 PM   #254
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Hawaii definitely deserves to be here. Let's wait at least another possession before we write them off. They seem to have settled down and are moving the ball now!
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:14 PM   #255
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I know it's likely that Hawaii will get blown out of the water, but there is a lot of football left to be played here. Remember that USC/Oklahoma title game from a few years back? Oklahoma shredded the SC defense on the first drive, and then we all know how that wound up.

Are you really comparing Hawaii to USC?
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #256
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Are you really comparing Hawaii to USC?

No, I'm comparing one football game to another. And how the tide can turn.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #257
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If you're saying that Hawaii shouldn't be there, I disagree. If a team is undefeated, they should get a chance to prove themselves on the big stage. Like, uhm..last year?

So if you scheduled 12 NAIA teams and went undefeated you should get the opportunity to prove yourself on the big stage?
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #258
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Hawaii vs Illinois and USC vs Georgia would've been vastly superior to these two matchups.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:16 PM   #259
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Hawaii definitely deserves to be here. Let's wait at least another possession before we write them off. They seem to have settled down and are moving the ball now!

The exclamation point at the end of this cracks me up for this reason: you have got to be the most excitable football fan on the planet. I love it.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:16 PM   #260
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Not sure how this will turn out, but Washington is the only team from a BCS conference that Hawaii played this season. Washington came in next to last place in the Pac Ten (ahead of Stanford). Hawaii came from behind to beat Washington in a close game at Hawaii. Washington also beat Boise State this year.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:18 PM   #261
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Michigan St. was scheduled but they backed out on the Warriors. It is hard for them to get games, people don't want to go out there and play them.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:19 PM   #262
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BTW the warriors will cover if not win the game outright.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:20 PM   #263
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Michigan St. was scheduled but they backed out on the Warriors. It is hard for them to get games, people don't want to go out there and play them.

It was Michigan and they paid App State to come there instead.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:20 PM   #264
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Michigan St. was scheduled but they backed out on the Warriors. It is hard for them to get games, people don't want to go out there and play them.

I believe it was actually U. of Michigan
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:21 PM   #265
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I believe it was actually U. of Michigan

No it was Michigan St. this year.

In 2000 it was Texas.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:22 PM   #266
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Brennan is a tough QB...shoulda thrown that ball away, though.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:22 PM   #267
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No it was Michigan St. this year.

In 2000 it was Texas.

Oh, my mistake.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:22 PM   #268
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I'm not even a little bit surprised by this.


heh wow. i wonder how common that is?
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #269
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http://starbulletin.com/2007/03/25/sports/story03.html

You were right, it was Michigan State. The Michigan game was just a rumor, it was never actually scheduled.
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Scheduling difficulties were compounded by Michigan State pulling out of a 2007 game at UH, and NCAA legislation that allowed teams to play one more game than before. For most schools, the limit went from 11 to 12 (teams playing a game at Hawaii, including the Warriors, can now play 13 instead of 12).

In fact, Michigan State cited the 13th-game issue as a reason for pulling out. MSU paid UH a $250,000 inconvenience fee.

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Old 01-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #270
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Hawaii is making it even harder on themselves....
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #271
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:24 PM   #272
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Hawaii gets on the board 7-3.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:26 PM   #273
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So if you scheduled 12 NAIA teams and went undefeated you should get the opportunity to prove yourself on the big stage?

Yes if that is all it takes to get in a BCS game. Hawaii met the BCS requirements. They always put a quality win component in if they don't want the Hawaiis of the world in the game.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:26 PM   #274
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So, basically, Michigan State=cowards
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:27 PM   #275
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heh wow. i wonder how common that is?

Maybe they hold separate tryouts to ensure they get the one each year.

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Old 01-01-2008, 08:28 PM   #276
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Colt took a pretty good shot on that drive. He might want to consider getting out of bounds on those plays to avoid another repeat of this.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:29 PM   #277
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Maybe they hold separate tryouts to ensure they get the one each year.

Are we commenting on the ethnic unity? I haven't quite caught up, but I think that is where this is going?? I generally don't notice things like that so it took the comment above to get me thinking in that direction.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:32 PM   #278
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I'm not even a little bit surprised by this.

I don't get it.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #279
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Another TD for Moreno. 14-3 Bulldogs.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #280
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the rainbows don't seem to be doing so well
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #281
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I don't get it.

Glad I'm not the only one.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #282
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I missed the game up until the tail end of this drive..

But I have been looking forward to this game more than any other this Bowl season - and I'm saying that as a Tennessee fan..

Anyone who has kept up with the NCAA threads this season will know why...
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #283
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I don't get it.

Me neither. Moreno looks very good.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #284
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Georgia's offensive line is manhandling Hawaii's front seven. This kind of got overlooked in all of the pregame hype on Hawaii's offense vs. Georgia's defense.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #285
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Are we commenting on the ethnic unity? I haven't quite caught up, but I think that is where this is going?? I generally don't notice things like that so it took the comment above to get me thinking in that direction.

Yes, that's what I was talking about.

I mean, they're just cheerleaders. I just noticed as they panned the sidelines and thought "I bet you they only have that one black cheerleader" and so I went to look and sure enough, I was right. I mean, it's just cheerleading.

And I'm sure their reply would be "black girls don't tryout" but...if the University of Wyoming and the University of Georgia have the same number of black cheerleaders, just seems strange to me...given they have a slightly bigger pool of student population to choose from..just struck me as strange and my more cynical side said "well what do you expect? They're in the south." (And I'm sure it's more "complicated" than that...)

That's it.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #286
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Are we commenting on the ethnic unity? I haven't quite caught up, but I think that is where this is going?? I generally don't notice things like that so it took the comment above to get me thinking in that direction.

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I don't get it.

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Glad I'm not the only one.

It took me clicking on it like 4 times to figure it out, but I came to the same guess as MJ4H..

My guess - it's probably not all that uncommon.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:35 PM   #287
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Wow. Georgia's offense is manhandling Hawaii. This is a case of the personnel making the coaches look like geniuses.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #288
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I haven't quite caught up

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Old 01-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #289
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I don't get it.

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Old 01-01-2008, 08:37 PM   #290
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Yes, that's what I was talking about.

I mean, they're just cheerleaders. I just noticed as they panned the sidelines and thought "I bet you they only have that one black cheerleader" and so I went to look and sure enough, I was right. I mean, it's just cheerleading.

And I'm sure their reply would be "black girls don't tryout" but...if the University of Wyoming and the University of Georgia have the same number of black cheerleaders, just seems strange to me...given they have a slightly bigger pool of student population to choose from..just struck me as strange and my more cynical side said "well what do you expect? They're in the south." (And I'm sure it's more "complicated" than that...)

That's it.

So wait..

The fact that UW has no black cheerleaders (http://wyomingathletics.cstv.com/tra...erleaders.html) is just normal..

But the fact that UGA doesn't is racist?

Nice.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:38 PM   #291
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Wow. Georgia's offense is manhandling Hawaii. This is a case of the personnel making the coaches look like geniuses.
I don't think anyone will really say genius either.

The plan is basic - feed the rock to superior athletes who are running behind superior athletes blocking for them.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:39 PM   #292
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It took me clicking on it like 4 times to figure it out, but I came to the same guess as MJ4H..

My guess - it's probably not all that uncommon.

Can't think of a bigger waste of time than cheerleading. "But you get to look at 'em". Come on, this isn't 1948. We have internet porn now. I can see a girl pretending to be a cheerleader doing all sorts of perverted things whenever I want. Cut the cheerleading program, and lower the price of food at the stadium.

I'm sure every AD will get right on it.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:40 PM   #293
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So wait..

The fact that UW has no black cheerleaders (http://wyomingathletics.cstv.com/tra...erleaders.html) is just normal..

But the fact that UGA doesn't is racist?

Nice.

I knew no one would get it. I don't know why I bothered. Stupid me. Carry on with the game, that's far more interesting than this discussion would be. I'm done with it.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:40 PM   #294
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I don't watch a lot of college football (usually because they show it at inconvenient times over here in Sydney, with no replays), but I watched most of the Auburn-Clemson game yesterday. Loved that kick return where the returner huddled up with the 4 (I think) blockers, handed the ball off to another guy, before the whole huddle all broke out, trying to confuse the kicking team as to who had the ball. Haven't seen that before.
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All of this talk about cheerleading and racism is irrelevant. There's a football game on and Hawaii is getting their asses kicked!
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:41 PM   #296
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Yes, that's what I was talking about.

I mean, they're just cheerleaders. I just noticed as they panned the sidelines and thought "I bet you they only have that one black cheerleader" and so I went to look and sure enough, I was right. I mean, it's just cheerleading.

And I'm sure their reply would be "black girls don't tryout" but...if the University of Wyoming and the University of Georgia have the same number of black cheerleaders, just seems strange to me...given they have a slightly bigger pool of student population to choose from..just struck me as strange and my more cynical side said "well what do you expect? They're in the south." (And I'm sure it's more "complicated" than that...)

That's it.

Problem #1 is noticing the color of somebody's skin, and assigning importance to it. That's what racism is.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:42 PM   #297
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I knew no one would get it. I don't know why I bothered. Stupid me. Carry on with the game, that's far more interesting than this discussion would be. I'm done with it.

Nice... Someone calls you out and you play "it's my ball, I'm going home"..

Let's take another stab..

Rutgers - http://www.scarletknights.com/cheer/

Looks like 4 males, 1 female - otherwise all white.

I just don't think there is a story here like you want to create. I like you DC, I really do - but sometimes you try to create issues where there are not any - don't be Noop, please.

Edit - corrected, totally missed several males - guess you can see where my eyes are drawn.
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:43 PM   #298
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given they have a slightly bigger pool of student population to choose from

But that's an undergrad population that's only 6% black (6% Asian, 5% "other", 83% white).
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:44 PM   #299
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Problem #1 is noticing the color of somebody's skin, and assigning importance to it. That's what racism is.

Am I racist if I only want to have sex with Asians?
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So, for any wannabe coaches out there...if you were Hawaii's DC, what would you try to do to slow down Georgia? Ideas?
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