Wow - How about the Manning boos? (and draft commentary) - Page 6

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:01 PM

I'm surprised that no Rb's have been selected yet.

Draft Dodger · 04-24-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Dallas gets a 2nd and 5th this year, and a 1st next year, I believe. Ridiculous.

seems like a steal for the Cowboys.
guess teams weren't as high on Jackson as people figured.

ISiddiqui · 04-24-2004, 03:04 PM

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If the Lions are serious about wanting a back in the second round, this is good...

Yep.. and I never thought this would happen!

Philly is sitting pretty right now, though.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:05 PM

Seattle gets DT, Marcus Tubbs.

bhlloy · 04-24-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

this is win-win for buffalo, Drew is in the last year of a huge contract, if they can't get a new one negotiated then they are set to hand Losman the reins and go from there. if they do get drew signed at a better rate, they have time to develope Losman to take over from Drew in a few years.

Losman is a tough little bastard, his O-line in college was worse than the bills line has been, so he'll be used to getting shelled regularly.

he still put up some awesome numbers even while landing on his backside more often than not.
Buffalo was going to be spending the first rounder next year on a QB either way, so this is a pretty solid pick overall.

Take the rose coloured glasses off dude, another bad bad draft day move by a Buffalo front office that is making a habit off of it. Matt Schaub who you could have had in the second easily is almost as good as Losman. Now you have a marginal QB prospect to go with your WR with chronic injury problems that you overpaid horribly for at 13, and you mortgaged the rest of this draft and the first round pick next year.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:06 PM

Wasn't Tubbs projected a 2nd or 3rd rounder?

RendeR · 04-24-2004, 03:07 PM

wow, umm...its the bengals pick....I honestly have no idea who they should take. jackson is still there, there are some top corners still there....defensive line maybe? not sure about whats left....man....tuff pick.

Draft Dodger · 04-24-2004, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

wow, umm...its the bengals pick....I honestly have no idea who they should take. jackson is still there, there are some top corners still there....defensive line maybe? not sure about whats left....man....tuff pick.

could they draft a better logo?

Maple Leafs · 04-24-2004, 03:09 PM

So what's the deal with RB Jackson? How does he fall this far, past so many teams that seem to have a real need at RB?

Noop · 04-24-2004, 03:09 PM

When is Steven Jackson going to get picked?

VPI97 · 04-24-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Matt Schaub who you could have had in the second easily is almost as good as Losman.

LOL. Matt Schaub couldn't hold Losman's jock.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Yep.. and I never thought this would happen!

Philly is sitting pretty right now, though.

Yeah, Philly does need a back.
Philly could pick Kevin Jones over Jackson.

Noop · 04-24-2004, 03:10 PM

Chris Gamble is more then likely this pick.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Yeah, Philly does need a back.
Philly could pick Kevin Jones over Jackson.

...if Jackson is still there.

VPI97 · 04-24-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Philly could pick Kevin Jones over Jackson.

If they get the choice, they'd go with Jones...he's a Philly guy.

RendeR · 04-24-2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Chris Gamble is more then likely this pick.

I love Gamble and think he's going to be huge one day, but he's so raw right now....I just dunno. lets see what Marvin says....

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Chris Gamble is more then likely this pick.

A homestate college player in Cincinnati, good pick.

Vince · 04-24-2004, 03:14 PM

RendeR - While Losman might be a good prospect...I still think you guys gave up way too much for him.

JAG · 04-24-2004, 03:14 PM

Philly doesn't have their pick, they traded it to San Fran.

ISiddiqui · 04-24-2004, 03:14 PM

DOH! I forgot Philly traded their 1st rounder to get Andrews... nevermind.

RendeR · 04-24-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

RendeR - While Losman might be a good prospect...I still think you guys gave up way too much for him.

luckily I'm not the Bills fan in the family, that mantle belongs to the wife=)

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

If they get the choice, they'd go with Jones...he's a Philly guy.

Philly does have a history of going with smaller quicker backs.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:17 PM

Cincy trades to the Rams.

ISiddiqui · 04-24-2004, 03:17 PM

WOW! Rams got Steven Jackson!

Cringer · 04-24-2004, 03:18 PM

rams take Jackson? okie dokie, i guess

DeToxRox · 04-24-2004, 03:18 PM

I like the pick by the Rams. Faulks been hurt enough lately.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:18 PM

WOW! The Rams select Jackson.
What happens to Faulk?

Vince · 04-24-2004, 03:18 PM

Can't really argue that pick for value...but I don't know.

ISiddiqui · 04-24-2004, 03:18 PM

Btw, have there been so many trades in the 1st round in recent memory?

VPI97 · 04-24-2004, 03:18 PM

Martz is an idiot.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

WOW! Rams got Steven Jackson!

...beat me by a minute.

JAG · 04-24-2004, 03:19 PM

Very nice choice by the Rams. That gives them a more physical presence at RB to compliment Faulk, plus be his eventual replacement. I'm not sure if he's the guy you really want for a dome team, but nevertheless, they got great value at this pick.

Sorry, that was a Kiper-like feeling that came over me.

Cringer · 04-24-2004, 03:20 PM

i remeber the Rams picking Trung Candidate in the first a few years back, that turned out well

dawgfan · 04-24-2004, 03:20 PM

That's a great move by St. Louis. Faulk is starting to wear down, and Stephen Jackson has the skills to play in that offense.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:21 PM

I thought Dallas needed a RB?

JAG · 04-24-2004, 03:21 PM

Oh, and good move by the Bengals to get more picks. Might be they are indeed aiming for Gamble, but didn't want to take him that high.

Cringer · 04-24-2004, 03:21 PM

OK, EVERYONE QUIET!!! It's PACKER time!

JAG · 04-24-2004, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

I thought Dallas needed a RB?

Dallas does need a running back. Apparently they didn't think the difference between Jackson and some of the others was great enough to offset getting a first round pick next year and a 5th round pick this year.

korme · 04-24-2004, 03:24 PM

I didn't hear the details of the trade. What's the deal?

dawgfan · 04-24-2004, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

i remeber the Rams picking Trung Candidate in the first a few years back, that turned out well

I saw both play in the Pac-10. Canidate was a reach in the 1st round. He was a speed guy, but didn't show great change of direction, didn't display the best hands in the world and wasn't a guy that could get the tough yards between the tackles in traffic.

Jackson on the other hand lacks only top-end speed, and he's no slouch in that department either. He's got all the skills you want in a RB.

JAG · 04-24-2004, 03:26 PM

Shorty, the Bengals moved back 2 spots and picked up a 4th rounder.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

OK, EVERYONE QUIET!!! It's PACKER time!

....everybody talk....LOUDLY!

Noop · 04-24-2004, 03:27 PM

Wow this has to be the strangest draft I have seen in awhile. I thought Jackson would be gone in the Top-15 but going to St. Louis has shocked me. Green Bay will take either Gamble or Sean Jones or Shawnte Spencer

RendeR · 04-24-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

I saw both play in the Pac-10. Canidate was a reach in the 1st round. He was a speed guy, but didn't show great change of direction, didn't display the best hands in the world and wasn't a guy that could get the tough yards between the tackles in traffic.

Jackson on the other hand lacks only top-end speed, and he's no slouch in that department either. He's got all the skills you want in a RB.

but you're forgetting one very important factor:

he's a Ram, and Martz is an IDIOT, therefore Martz will throw throw run throw throw and never use him properly.

Noop · 04-24-2004, 03:28 PM

Also I have not seen one Madden promo...yet

Noop · 04-24-2004, 03:29 PM

Now Gamble gets picks....

DeToxRox · 04-24-2004, 03:29 PM

Carroll I like. Very nice choice.

tucker rocky · 04-24-2004, 03:30 PM

Packer pick....hmmm......good pick.....I guess.

Draft Dodger · 04-24-2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Oh, and good move by the Bengals to get more picks. Might be they are indeed aiming for Gamble, but didn't want to take him that high.

absolutely.
they picked up 2 picks and a player to move down. and Gamble is still there.

Cringer · 04-24-2004, 03:30 PM

i like the Packer taking Carroll, needed a DB.....

fast and a jumper, makes up for being short.............

04-24-2004, 03:07 PM	#257
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	wow, umm...its the bengals pick....I honestly have no idea who they should take. jackson is still there, there are some top corners still there....defensive line maybe? not sure about whats left....man....tuff pick. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

04-24-2004, 03:09 PM	#259
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	So what's the deal with RB Jackson? How does he fall this far, past so many teams that seem to have a real need at RB? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

04-24-2004, 03:09 PM	#260
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	When is Steven Jackson going to get picked? __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-24-2004, 03:10 PM	#263
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Chris Gamble is more then likely this pick. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-24-2004, 03:14 PM	#268
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	RendeR - While Losman might be a good prospect...I still think you guys gave up way too much for him. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

04-24-2004, 03:01 PM	#251
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	I'm surprised that no Rb's have been selected yet.

04-24-2004, 03:05 PM	#254
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Seattle gets DT, Marcus Tubbs.

04-24-2004, 03:06 PM	#256
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Wasn't Tubbs projected a 2nd or 3rd rounder?

04-24-2004, 03:14 PM	#269
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Philly doesn't have their pick, they traded it to San Fran.

04-24-2004, 03:14 PM	#270
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	DOH! I forgot Philly traded their 1st rounder to get Andrews... nevermind. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-24-2004, 03:17 PM	#273
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Cincy trades to the Rams.

04-24-2004, 03:17 PM	#274
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	WOW! Rams got Steven Jackson! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#275
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	rams take Jackson? okie dokie, i guess __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#276
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I like the pick by the Rams. Faulks been hurt enough lately.

04-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#277
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	WOW! The Rams select Jackson. What happens to Faulk?

04-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#278
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Can't really argue that pick for value...but I don't know. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

04-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#279
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Btw, have there been so many trades in the 1st round in recent memory? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#280
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Martz is an idiot. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

04-24-2004, 03:19 PM	#282
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Very nice choice by the Rams. That gives them a more physical presence at RB to compliment Faulk, plus be his eventual replacement. I'm not sure if he's the guy you really want for a dome team, but nevertheless, they got great value at this pick. Sorry, that was a Kiper-like feeling that came over me.

04-24-2004, 03:20 PM	#283
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	i remeber the Rams picking Trung Candidate in the first a few years back, that turned out well __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-24-2004, 03:20 PM	#284
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	That's a great move by St. Louis. Faulk is starting to wear down, and Stephen Jackson has the skills to play in that offense.

04-24-2004, 03:21 PM	#285
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	I thought Dallas needed a RB?

04-24-2004, 03:21 PM	#286
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Oh, and good move by the Bengals to get more picks. Might be they are indeed aiming for Gamble, but didn't want to take him that high.

04-24-2004, 03:21 PM	#287
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	OK, EVERYONE QUIET!!! It's PACKER time! __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-24-2004, 03:24 PM	#289
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	I didn't hear the details of the trade. What's the deal?

04-24-2004, 03:26 PM	#291
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Shorty, the Bengals moved back 2 spots and picked up a 4th rounder.

04-24-2004, 03:27 PM	#293
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Wow this has to be the strangest draft I have seen in awhile. I thought Jackson would be gone in the Top-15 but going to St. Louis has shocked me. Green Bay will take either Gamble or Sean Jones or Shawnte Spencer __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-24-2004, 03:28 PM	#295
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Also I have not seen one Madden promo...yet __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-24-2004, 03:29 PM	#296
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Now Gamble gets picks.... __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-24-2004, 03:29 PM	#297
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Carroll I like. Very nice choice.

04-24-2004, 03:30 PM	#298
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Packer pick....hmmm......good pick.....I guess.

04-24-2004, 03:30 PM	#300
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	i like the Packer taking Carroll, needed a DB..... fast and a jumper, makes up for being short............. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

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