NFL Week 2

[fantom1979]

At least Cincinnati has been to a Super Bowl. The Lions are just silly. I live in the metro Detroit area, but lucky for me I grew up a Jets fan (they are much better )

[larrymcg421]

Wayne Fontes has an awful reputation that I don't think is warranted. I mean, I know people think the guy underacheived, but he had a record of 67-71. There are guys with much worse records than that. The Lions had three double digit win seasons under his tenure, and haven't had a single one since. He made it to the playoffs 4 times (including an appearance in the NFC championship), and the Lions have only been there twice since then. Let's not forget that he also went against management in picking Barry Sanders. I'd think that the Lions would embrace a return to the Wayne Fontes era. It's only been a complete disaster since.

[JetsIn06]

Originally Posted by fantom1979

At least Cincinnati has been to a Super Bowl. The Lions are just silly. I live in the metro Detroit area, but lucky for me I grew up a Jets fan (they are much better )

Woot! Always nice to see a Jets fan around here. Doesn't seem to be many.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Wayne Fontes has an awful reputation that I don't think is warranted. I mean, I know people think the guy underacheived, but he had a record of 67-71. There are guys with much worse records than that. The Lions had three double digit win seasons under his tenure, and haven't had a single one since. He made it to the playoffs 4 times (including an appearance in the NFC championship), and the Lions have only been there twice since then. Let's not forget that he also went against management in picking Barry Sanders. I'd think that the Lions would embrace a return to the Wayne Fontes era. It's only been a complete disaster since.

Hell yeah, we would. Wayne Fontes was a baffoon, but he at least won games and had some good players. Considering that he's pretty much been the Lions "best" headcoach in 30-40 years should tell you something.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Are you sure you're a Broncos fan? You don't sound like a douche bag ... I'm assuming tarcone is a typical Broncos fan.

Yeah, I'm a Broncos fan. I'm also a football fan. And what happened yesterday wasn't good for the game.

In my head, I understand all this evens out over the years. I know you remember 2003. Denver vs. KC, two 4-0 teams meet up at Arrowhead. Dante Hall returns a punt 93 yards for a TD. Chiefs win 24-23 in a game Denver outgained them 468-230.

And the Hall TD? Three clear block in the backs at the start of the return. Not those "well, it's a 50/50 thing" No, obvious, clear cut blocks in the back. Chiefs won the division by three games. . . yet there is no question that game had a big impact on both teams and at the time, it seemed like that could decide it. It felt sickening to lose a game because the refs missed an obvious call.

It doesn't feel any better when you win because of one. The only solace I take is in my analysis above. The Chargers aren't going to win a Super Bowl playing defense like they do. They were horrible. And have been horrible for two straight weeks. (did Norv even bother practicing a 2 minute defense in training camp this year? Just curious)

These two teams are going to have some fantastic games over the next few years. Everyone knows about the Chargers talent. What people might not know is this:

Cutler 25
Marshall 25
Scheffler 25
Royal 22

Ryan Harris 23
Ryan Clady 25

That's Cutler, his top three receivers and his two book end tackles. Throw in 22 year old Peyton Hills and 25 year old starting G Chris Kuper and you have 8 of the Denver starting 11 on offense 25 years of age or younger. That leaves one G, one C and one RB. The offense could be the start of something very special.

The defense? Good lord. . . HELP!!!

[Groundhog]

I hope the football is better than the singing of the national anthem... Sheesh, that was painfull.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

So, dude, you don't know what pain is.

I can't read this line without hearing it in the Buffalo Bill voice, yelling into a pit. I'm pretty sure I've got issues ...

[Groundhog]

wow.

[SirFozzie]

Yeah. Sheppard was just toasted.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Yeah. Sheppard was just toasted.

Good - that guy has been abusing the Cowboys for years, nice to see him on the other end for once.

[sabotai]

So I guess T.O. vs. McNabb is going to be the one and only thing Tony talks about all night long tonight...

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by sabotai

So I guess T.O. vs. McNabb is going to be the one and only thing Tony talks about all night long tonight...

Time for the mute button I believe, I just wish you could mute select announcers.

[cartman]

WOOT! Felix Jones with the kick return!!!

[SirFozzie]

Oops.

[EagleFan]

Way to miss the hold there refs!!!

[EagleFan]

WTF!!! Open your fucking eyes refs!!!

[Groundhog]

Felix just exploded past those initial defenders, and then a pretty amazing play from Jenkins. Encouraging if your a Cowboys fan.

[Groundhog]

lol... Spoke too soon.

[SirFozzie]

Ex-Patriot! Tony Romo pulled a Brett Favre

[sabotai]

Two obvious facemask penalties not called on Dallas so far.

[EagleFan]

Nice!!!

But I guess face mask is not a penalty anymore?

[SirFozzie]

Ooooooo big penalty

[Voo]

So they finally throw a flag and its a bad call...whatever I'll take it.

[Scoobz0202]

Damn it. Was hoping they would shake off these fucking retarded penalties since the Browns game, but apparently not.

[cartman]

That PI call easily could have gone the other way, if there was a ref positioned to see the handful of jersey.

I saw the one facemask that obviously should have been called on the run up the middle, but where was the other one?

[EagleFan]

The other one was at the end of the interception.

Touchdown!!!!

[cartman]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

The other one was at the end of the interception.

Just went back to look at it on Tivo, and it was a palm at the crown of the helmet that caused his head to move like that.

[EagleFan]

Yeah!!!!!

[Dr. Sak]

HAHAHA WAY TO GO ROMO!!!

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by cartman

Just went back to look at it on Tivo, and it was a palm at the crown of the helmet that caused his head to move like that.

They never replayed that part of the play so I only had first impression to go by.

[EagleFan]

Just what is the over/under on this game?

[cartman]

This game is shaping up to be a repeat of the Broncos-Chargers game yesterday.

[tucker rocky]

Romo didn't get a 30 yard recovery?

[Groundhog]

LOL... That was just terrible.

[Voo]

Eagles kick coverage looking good in preseason.

[JetsIn06]

What the hell I just went to get a drink and now the Eagle scored again...what happened?

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by JetsIn06

What the hell I just went to get a drink and now the Eagle scored again...what happened?

Tony Romo is what happened (fumbled the ball into the end zone and the Eagles recovered it)

[cartman]

That CB wanted nothing to do with Leonard Davis blocking downfield on that screen!

[cartman]

Romo seems to have shaken off his mistake pretty well. Before he would have let that bother him the rest of the game.

[Scoobz0202]

There we go.

Forget the INT and the fumble by Romo. At least I will. Little jitters..


Now fix the fucking penalties and we will win this game no problem. Step up Cowboys D. Step Up.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Way to miss the hold there refs!!!

I know people say "you could call holding on any play", but watching games yesterday I was amazed at how many O-Linemen are now allowed to get their arms outside the opponents body and grab his jersey on his upper arms and shove him back without being called. It was all over slow-mo replays of run up the middle after run up the middle by most teams I was watching. It was borderline absurd: apparently you have to tackle the guy to get the call (which one of the Panthers did), although of course I saw one Chicago O-lineman do the same thing with no call on a big play. But really, it's like they just go "hey wait, it's been 15 plays since I called a hold, FLAG!".

[Dr. Sak]

Way to go DeSean!!!

[Dr. Sak]

Wow...what a dumbass...that is not going to be a TD.

[Jas_lov]

LOL! Boneheaded play by Jackson. It's going to be close.

[sabotai]

Uh oh. Looks like Jackson may have done something extremely stupid.

[Dr. Sak]

But it is still going to be the Eagles ball I believe.

[Lathum]

lol.

this is an awesome game.

I am pulling for the Eagles but I really hope this gets overturned.

McNabb better grab his facemask and tell him don't ever fucking do that again.

[cartman]

This is going to be interesting. Is it going to be like yesterday, were it will be Philly's ball at the 1, or is it Dallas' ball, because there no whistle?

[tucker rocky]

No TD. What a dumbo.

[Karlifornia]

That's what you get from a Cal guy!