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Old 08-02-2003, 12:45 PM   #252
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Old 08-03-2003, 11:13 AM   #254
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Old 08-03-2003, 12:05 PM   #255
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AFC East       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Dolphins        8   1   0    267    183     3-0      8-0        W5
Jets            3   6   0    174    202     1-2      2-3        L3
Bills           3   6   0    179    213     1-2      2-4        L2
Patriots        3   6   0    181    220     1-2      2-4        L3

AFC North      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Steelers        6   3   0    224    148     3-0      5-1        W1
Bengals         5   4   0    198    158     2-1      4-3        W2
Ravens          3   6   0    115    182     1-2      2-5        L4
Browns          2   7   0    172    221     0-3      2-6        L1

AFC South      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Colts           5   4   0    205    190     3-1      4-2        W1
Jaguars         3   6   0    176    198     1-3      3-5        L1
Titans          3   6   0    154    188     1-2      2-5        L2
Texans          2   7   0    148    246     2-1      2-5        L4

AFC West       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Chiefs          6   3   0    263    202     2-1      6-2        W2
Broncos         6   3   0    173    202     2-1      4-3        W3
Raiders         6   3   0    248    159     1-2      4-3        W3
Chargers        4   5   0    237    222     1-2      3-4        W1

NFC East       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Giants          6   3   0     214    164     3-0      4-2        L1
Eagles          6   3   0    214    199     1-2      3-3        W3
Redskins        5   4   0    223    229     1-2      3-3        W1
Cowboys         3   6   0    160    226     1-2      2-5        W2

NFC North      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Vikings         4   5   0    228    187     3-1      4-3        L1
Lions           4   5   0    145    211     2-2      4-3        W1
Packers         4   5   0    217    224     2-2      3-5        L3
Bears           3   5   1    146    200     1-3      2-4-1      L1

NFC South      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Falcons         7   2   0    219    166     3-0      7-2        W1
Saints          6   2   1    188    130     2-2      3-2-1      W2
Buccaneers      6   3   0    169    105     2-2      5-2        W1
Panthers        3   6   0    113    149     1-4      1-4        L1

NFC West       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Seahawks        6   3   0    204    205     3-0      4-3        L1
49ers           6   3   0    271    163     3-1      5-3        W2
Rams            6   3   0    233    203     1-3      4-3        W1
Cardinals       0   9   0     93    251     0-3      0-6        L9

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Old 08-03-2003, 12:08 PM   #256
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Old 08-03-2003, 12:13 PM   #257
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Old 08-03-2003, 12:23 PM   #258
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Old 08-03-2003, 01:26 PM   #259
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Old 08-03-2003, 01:58 PM   #260
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This has been fun to follow. A couple of quick observations:

1) If the Broncos have scored 173 points, but have given up 202, I don't think they'll be 6-3. I know it CAN happen. I just don't think it would with this team. Either the offense will be dynamic and average 22-24 points per game, or the team will finish .500 or below and be out of contention. (Only team to hit .500 last year giving up more points then it scored was Buffalo, and that was a slim margain)

2) The Dolphins averaging 30 points a game? This is a team that scored 30 or more only 4 times last year. Once was against the Lions and once against the Chiefs, we won't count those.

3) After 9 games, the Eagles are giving up a full TD more than they did last year. During the past three seasons, their high in points given up has been a hair over 15. In this, the Eagles are giving up over 22 points per game. The last two full regular seasons have seen them give up 22 points or more 3 times in 32 games. (Hugh Douglas means more than I first thought)

4) On the other side, we have the Saints giving up just over 14 points a game. That's 10 points better than last season's 24. Last year they held only one opponent to under 15 points in a game. The Carolina Panthers in the last week of the regular season. The other 15 games? They gave up 20 or more every week.

5) The Cardinals 10.33 points per game average would be the worst average over the past 3 seasons by close to a full field goal. (last year's Texans) They would be nearly a TD a game worse than the Carolina Panthers of last season. This in a division with 3 very questionable and very thin defenses.

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Note here: Not ripping the process or the picks, just having some fun.
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Old 08-03-2003, 02:01 PM   #261
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Old 08-03-2003, 02:24 PM   #262
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Old 08-03-2003, 03:32 PM   #263
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Old 08-03-2003, 03:39 PM   #264
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Old 08-03-2003, 05:02 PM   #265
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TroyF, I've been watching some of the same developments. I've also noticed that the home field hasn't seemed to come into play too much, last checked the win percentage was 30 points under what it was last season. Last week's 9-5 for the home team helped the percentage.
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Old 08-03-2003, 05:43 PM   #267
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Old 08-03-2003, 05:45 PM   #268
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Old 08-03-2003, 09:12 PM   #269
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TroyF, I've been watching some of the same developments. I've also noticed that the home field hasn't seemed to come into play too much, last checked the win percentage was 30 points under what it was last season. Last week's 9-5 for the home team helped the percentage.


The great thing about the NFL is that all of this could really happen.

I think it's funny to watch the perception vs. reality factor. I would assume most people feel the Saints have upgraded their defense greatly, while the Cardinals have lost too much offense to be a factor.

The problem with both perceptions is that in this it's turned the Saints into the second best defense in the NFL (highly unlikely) and that the Cardinals have become the worst offensive team any of us have seen in over a decade (even more unlikely)

One last perception for the heck of it: Most people view the Titans as a very low scoring team. In this set of predictions, they are averaging 17 points per game. This is 4 points lower than they have averaged in the past three seasons. They averaged 22 points per game last year. I think their offense is even more dynamic this year with a true backup RB and a potential game breaking WR.

It'll be interesting to see how this ends up.

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Old 08-04-2003, 11:49 AM   #270
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Old 08-05-2003, 02:39 PM   #272
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Old 08-05-2003, 04:00 PM   #273
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:03 AM   #275
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:58 AM   #276
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:05 AM   #277
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RendeR, you saw that Plummer would throw 4 picks, huh?
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Old 08-06-2003, 11:22 AM   #278
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Old 08-06-2003, 02:33 PM   #279
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RendeR, you saw that Plummer would throw 4 picks, huh?


Plummer isn't the problem, an aging O-line and a weak defense is the problem. Denver as always will be competitive, but that team just isn't on the same level with the elite teams in the league. Plummer is one of the best things Denver has right now.

Not saying I think San Diego is either, but between the two, The Chargers are the better team.
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Old 08-06-2003, 02:36 PM   #280
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Not saying I think San Diego is either, but between the two, The Chargers are the better team.


I like hearing that a lot. I truly hope you will be right.
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:14 PM   #281
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AFC East       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Dolphins        9   1   0    284    197     3-0      9-0        W6
Bills           4   6   0    210    223     1-2      3-4        W1
Patriots        4   6   0    205    227     1-2      2-4        W1
Jets            3   7   0    198    233     1-2      2-4        L4


AFC North      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Steelers        6   4   0    241    179     3-0      5-1        L1
Bengals         5   5   0    208    192     2-1      4-4        L1
Ravens          3   7   0    129    199     1-2      2-6        L5
Browns          2   8   0    186    241     0-3      2-6        L2

AFC South      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Colts           6   4   0    236    214     3-1      5-2        W2
Titans          4   6   0    175    202     2-2      3-5        W1
Jaguars         3   7   0    190    219     1-4      3-6        L2
Texans          2   8   0    158    277     2-1      2-6        L5

AFC West       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Chiefs          7   3   0    297    212     2-1      7-2        W3
Raiders         7   3   0    278    176     1-2      4-3        W4
Broncos         6   4   0    197    230     2-2      4-4        L1
Chargers        5   5   0    265    246     2-2      4-4        W2

NFC East       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Giants          7   3   0     224    170     4-0      5-2        W1
Redskins        6   4   0    247    242     1-2      4-3        W2
Eagles          6   4   0    220    209     1-3      3-4        L1
Cowboys         3   7   0    167    250     1-2      2-5        L1

NFC North      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Lions           5   5   0    169    232     2-2      5-3        W2
Vikings         4   6   0    245    217     3-1      4-3        L2
Packers         4   6   0    220    248     2-2      3-6        L4
Bears           3   6   1    152    217     1-3      2-5-1      L2

NFC South      W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
Saints          7   2   1    219    150     3-2      4-2-1      W3
Falcons         7   3   0    239    197     3-1      7-3        L1
Buccaneers      7   3   0    193    108     2-2      6-2        W2
Panthers        3   7   0    126    173     1-4      1-5        L2

NFC West       W   L   T     PF     PA     Div     Conf    Streak
49ers           7   3   0    302    180     3-1      5-3        W3
Rams            7   3   0    250    206     1-3      5-3        W2
Seahawks        6   4   0    225    229     3-0      4-4        L2
Cardinals       1   9   0    113    265     0-3      0-6        W1

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Old 08-06-2003, 05:17 PM   #282
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:19 PM   #283
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:29 PM   #284
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:41 PM   #285
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:42 PM   #286
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:44 PM   #287
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With Miami starting out 10-1, doesn't that mean the forum is obligated to have them lose their last 5? We're going for realism here, right?
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Old 08-06-2003, 05:59 PM   #288
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Old 08-06-2003, 06:22 PM   #289
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With Miami starting out 10-1, doesn't that mean the forum is obligated to have them lose their last 5? We're going for realism here, right?


We some how have the 1st place Detroit Lions, so realism might not quite be what we end up with.
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Old 08-06-2003, 07:26 PM   #290
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With Miami starting out 10-1, doesn't that mean the forum is obligated to have them lose their last 5? We're going for realism here, right?


I am trying to be objective here. I just see these games going Miami's way. Of course, they do have road games at New England and Buffalo later. They may have a let down or both then.
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Old 08-06-2003, 07:33 PM   #291
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That still doesn't explain the Lions in 1st place.
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Old 08-06-2003, 08:08 PM   #292
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The Lions in 1st place is a little far fetched. But what is really out there is they are leading the division with a 6-5 record. What happened to the rest of the division?
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Old 08-06-2003, 08:28 PM   #294
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Chargers 38, Bengals 13




Yer picking san diego to score 38 points and you think the LIONS IN FIRT PLACE is far fetched??????

You've got to be kidding if you think the Chargers will score more than 30 in a game playing MARTY-Ball.....
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Far fetched, that would be the Lions at 6-5 and having allowed 60 more points than they have scored (would have to be near a record for a team with a winning mark).
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Old 08-06-2003, 08:51 PM   #296
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Old 08-06-2003, 10:07 PM   #297
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Yer picking san diego to score 38 points and you think the LIONS IN FIRT PLACE is far fetched??????

You've got to be kidding if you think the Chargers will score more than 30 in a game playing MARTY-Ball.....


Why? They scored 28 points or more 4 times last season with a young backfield playing Marty-ball. This includes a 34-6 victory over the Bengals. I give the Bengals 7 more points this season for their improvements.
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Old 08-07-2003, 03:48 PM   #299
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Why? They scored 28 points or more 4 times last season with a young backfield playing Marty-ball. This includes a 34-6 victory over the Bengals. I give the Bengals 7 more points this season for their improvements.


in each of those games they scored 30+ in the defense gave them the ball over and over in great field position. however, that defense, and this years defense, are like black and white.

I just don't see them being dominant without that stifling defense this season.

they're still better than the Broncos
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