OT: Survivor - Guatamala - Page 6

Joe · 12-09-2005, 05:34 AM

well, thanks to the preview for the next episode, we know who has immunity in the final four tribal council

Hoya1 · 12-09-2005, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

well, thanks to the preview for the next episode, we know who has immunity in the final four tribal council

I never thought to look. Good point.

Who was it?

Joe · 12-09-2005, 06:53 AM

FrogMan · 12-09-2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dervack

I don't know if I would say for sure that Cindy will vote against Steph. We only got to see 3 votes, so Cindy could be of the mind that the 3 were Rafe, Danni, and Lydia. Hopefully she's smarter than that. I really don't see Steph winning at all. Even if she gets to the final 2, it would be very hard for me to believe she would get enough votes. That being said, doesn't 2nd place get like 250k? Not a bad second prize. Also, FWIW, the next Survivor is this Sunday, the 11th. 2-hour season finale, and then the reunion.

second place gets 100k if I remember correctly.

FM

21C · 12-09-2005, 06:59 AM

Jeff Probst signs on for two more years of Survivor.

hxxp://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds27105.html

Joe · 12-09-2005, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

second place gets 100k if I remember correctly.

FM

Yup.

Sixteenth $2,500
Fifteenth $3,500
Fourteenth $4,500
Thirteenth $5,500
Twelfth $7,500
Eleventh $10,000
Tenth $15,000
Ninth $20,000
Eighth $27,500
Seventh $35,000
Sixth $45,000
Fifth $55,000
Fourth $70,000
Third $85,000
Runner-up $100,000
Winner $1,000,000

Joe · 12-09-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 21C

Jeff Probst signs on for two more years of Survivor.

hxxp://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds27105.html

Great news. That can finally put to death the rumors of Tina Wesson becoming host

Flame Eater · 12-09-2005, 08:27 AM

Am I just a naughty old man, or was anyone else hoping the Steph/Cindy reward celebration would degrade into a drunken, love-making bubble bath scene?

Flame Eater · 12-09-2005, 08:32 AM

dola--

1. Cindy should have given away the cars. It's a huge, giving act that she'd feel good about for the rest of her life, and it would have helped her in the game. Remember, you're playing for $1,000,000; don't worry about the $30,000 car!

2. When you win a reward: Tell everyone you had a great time, shut your mouth and then go get fire wood and water.

Kodos · 12-09-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 21C

Jeff Probst signs on for two more years of Survivor.

hxxp://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds27105.html

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!

gkb · 12-09-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame Eater

Am I just a naughty old man, or was anyone else hoping the Steph/Cindy reward celebration would degrade into a drunken, love-making bubble bath scene?

I'm pretty much hoping for something along these lines every episode.

rkmsuf · 12-09-2005, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gkb

I'm pretty much hoping for something along these lines every episode.

television isn't that hard people. just put that show on and instant ratings.

sachmo71 · 12-09-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame Eater

dola--

1. Cindy should have given away the cars. It's a huge, giving act that she'd feel good about for the rest of her life, and it would have helped her in the game. Remember, you're playing for $1,000,000; don't worry about the $30,000 car!

2. When you win a reward: Tell everyone you had a great time, shut your mouth and then go get fire wood and water.

Unless she had doubts that should would make it past the next tribal council?

LloydLungs · 12-09-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Flame Eater

dola--

1. Cindy should have given away the cars. It's a huge, giving act that she'd feel good about for the rest of her life, and it would have helped her in the game. Remember, you're playing for $1,000,000; don't worry about the $30,000 car!

2. When you win a reward: Tell everyone you had a great time, shut your mouth and then go get fire wood and water.

I don't agree that it would have helped her in the game. Someone who gives away four cars becomes the worst final 2 opponent you can imagine, with 3 pretty much automatic jury votes and likely several more. She MIGHT have survived to the final four, given that Rafe is controlling the game and he says he wouldn't have voted her out... but 5th place prize money + a car is around the same as 2nd place prize money -- and unless she strung a bunch of immunities together, she would have never been allowed to reach final 2.

I guess it would have been a giving act, but giving huge gifts to people who are most definitely out to screw you gets you into doormat territory. What she SHOULD have done (though I would have never thought of this on the spot so I can't blame her) is strike a deal. I believe the winner of Survivor also wins a car on top of the million. She should have struck a good-faith agreement with the other four that she would give them the cars, and that if she didn't win the million, the winner would give her one of their cars back. That way, everyone ends up with a car and Cindy ends up with a lot of goodwill (though she would still never make it to final 2).

Truthfully, I wasn't crazy about the winner of a challenge being put in such a difficult position. I'm sure in retrospect she would have chosen to lose the challenge and take her chances that she would get a car anyway without being put on the spot.

Agree totally on #2 though. If you had to talk about the car, talk about your decision and not how great the car is. G'ah.

wishbone · 12-09-2005, 12:34 PM

I thought it was a no-brainer to give away the 4 cars, couldn't imagine why anyone would keep the one. So I was shocked when Cindy kept the car. It helps you in the game or at least prevents you going on and on about it in camp and you can say "I won 4 cars on survivor"

Kodos · 12-09-2005, 12:39 PM

I think she should've basically said "I'll give you the cars if you promise not to vote me off this round."

Glengoyne · 12-09-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I think she should've basically said "I'll give you the cars if you promise not to vote me off this round."

I hadn't thought of that.

I think the decision to give the cars away would have been incredibly tough.

I think I might have chalked it up to "the Greater Good", and given them away.

Then again, I would certainly want the car. It is a Huge deal to pass up a car. I would've just won a difficult challenge. I EARNED that car! Probably harder to give up the car the more I thought about it.

LloydLungs · 12-09-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I think I might have chalked it up to "the Greater Good", and given them away.

I'm not understanding this greater good thing -- not in the context of the game of Survivor. In the final five of Survivor, you're playing against four other people who all want you to lose. If you give them all cars, they will be four very grateful people who still want you to lose -- bottom line. Only now, their opportunity to win is GREATLY threatened if they're sitting next to a F2 opponent who GAVE CARS TO 3/7 OF THE JURY. That's unprecedented in Survivor history and would be a virtual certain win for the car giver awayer, which is why that person would never be allowed to get that far barring an immunity run.

You might get a short term gain of one extra round, but in the big picture, your chances of winning the game decrease AND you gave up a car that you rightfully won.

Maple Leafs · 12-09-2005, 01:25 PM

I believe there is a hard and fast rule about "no deals" when it comes to any of the prizes.

Otherwise every season would just involve the final four chopping the prize money.

saldana · 12-09-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I believe there is a hard and fast rule about "no deals" when it comes to any of the prizes.

Otherwise every season would just involve the final four chopping the prize money.

there are only 2 rules as far as they have ever said on the show

1. you cant make an agreement to split the money

2. you cant hit another player

Swaggs · 12-09-2005, 01:32 PM

It would be hard to justify to your family that you spent a month and a half away from home, had a chance to bring back a $35,000 car, but instead gave it away so that four people you didn't know two months ago could have cars.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have done it in the spur of the moment, since those are more or less the only people in your life at the time, but if you step back from the situation, it would be tough to justify giving away your car after the game ended.

LloydLungs · 12-09-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I believe there is a hard and fast rule about "no deals" when it comes to any of the prizes.

Otherwise every season would just involve the final four chopping the prize money.

True, if that rule extends beyond just the million bucks, then I guess she couldn't have done that... although you would think the eventual winner of the show would look at Cindy and her lack of a car and her 5th place finish and taken the initiative to give her one out of their own free will. Like Tina buying Colby a motorcycle. Not sure any of them would do that, though. :-)

rkmsuf · 12-09-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

there are only 2 rules as far as they have ever said on the show

1. you cant make an agreement to split the money

2. you cant hit another player

they should allow hitting

Swaggs · 12-09-2005, 01:40 PM

This car thing has me thinking. Not exactly the same, but....

Would you give away your personal vehicle so that four of your co-workers could get similar vehicles, knowing that the same four co-workers were up for the same promotion that you were applying for?

saldana · 12-09-2005, 02:07 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/1....ap/index.html

guess that answers that question...i for one am glad he is staying

Glengoyne · 12-09-2005, 02:44 PM

When I said "for the Greater Good" I wasn't expressing that within terms of "the game." It is just that my instinct would be to give four people cars rather than keep one myself. That would be an incredibly selfless act, but I believe that would be my first instinct. That altruistic action would very possibly be overruled by my own selfish motivations.

I think it would be very difficult to consider the in game ramifications of that decision on the spot that Cindy was in.

Poli · 12-09-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

This car thing has me thinking. Not exactly the same, but....

Would you give away your personal vehicle so that four of your co-workers could get similar vehicles, knowing that the same four co-workers were up for the same promotion that you were applying for?

I mentioned this at work. I said if this opportunity ever came up they could go screw themselves.

Joe · 12-09-2005, 05:36 PM

it's a lot easier to say you would give up the cars than to actually do it

Raven · 12-13-2005, 03:50 PM

Danni is fucking hot.

NoMyths · 12-13-2005, 04:39 PM

Strange that my neighbor won.

I imagine town's buzzing, though.

Subby · 12-13-2005, 04:41 PM

Define neighbor. Did she babysit you?

Antmeister · 12-13-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

This car thing has me thinking. Not exactly the same, but....

Would you give away your personal vehicle so that four of your co-workers could get similar vehicles, knowing that the same four co-workers were up for the same promotion that you were applying for?

Not a good analogy. Those four co workers also determine both your promotion and your employment.

BrianD · 12-14-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

It would be hard to justify to your family that you spent a month and a half away from home, had a chance to bring back a $35,000 car, but instead gave it away so that four people you didn't know two months ago could have cars.

I'm not saying I wouldn't have done it in the spur of the moment, since those are more or less the only people in your life at the time, but if you step back from the situation, it would be tough to justify giving away your car after the game ended.

Anybody know what the tax burden would be on a $35,000 car?

NoMyths · 12-14-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Define neighbor. Did she babysit you?

Next town over. A girlfriend of mine in high school lives there. Us rural folks tend to have town to town neighborhood definitions.

My folks told me last night that town was lit up with all manner of congratulatory signs last night when they drove through...obviously it's a big deal for the area.

Raiders Army · 12-14-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Anybody know what the tax burden would be on a $35,000 car?

They wouldn't have to worry about it. The fifth place finisher gets $55k, fourth gets $70k, third gets $85k, runner-up $100k and winner, of course, $1 million.

So even though she came in fifth place and got $55k, she really got $90k guaranteed.

BrianD · 12-14-2005, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

They wouldn't have to worry about it. The fifth place finisher gets $55k, fourth gets $70k, third gets $85k, runner-up $100k and winner, of course, $1 million.

So even though she came in fifth place and got $55k, she really got $90k guaranteed.

And what is the tax burden on $55k? I'm just curious how much cash she would actually get after paying taxes on everything.

Raiders Army · 12-14-2005, 11:25 AM

I'm no tax lawyer, but I'd guess she would get at least $30k in cash in addition to the car.

12-09-2005, 01:25 PM	#269
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I believe there is a hard and fast rule about "no deals" when it comes to any of the prizes. Otherwise every season would just involve the final four chopping the prize money. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

12-09-2005, 01:32 PM	#271
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	It would be hard to justify to your family that you spent a month and a half away from home, had a chance to bring back a $35,000 car, but instead gave it away so that four people you didn't know two months ago could have cars. I'm not saying I wouldn't have done it in the spur of the moment, since those are more or less the only people in your life at the time, but if you step back from the situation, it would be tough to justify giving away your car after the game ended. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-09-2005, 01:40 PM	#274
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	This car thing has me thinking. Not exactly the same, but.... Would you give away your personal vehicle so that four of your co-workers could get similar vehicles, knowing that the same four co-workers were up for the same promotion that you were applying for? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-13-2005, 04:41 PM	#281
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Define neighbor. Did she babysit you? __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

12-09-2005, 05:34 AM	#251
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	well, thanks to the preview for the next episode, we know who has immunity in the final four tribal council

12-09-2005, 06:53 AM	#253
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	Rafe

12-09-2005, 06:59 AM	#255
21C College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Newcastle, Australia	Jeff Probst signs on for two more years of Survivor. hxxp://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds27105.html

12-09-2005, 08:27 AM	#258
Flame Eater H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Albany, NY	Am I just a naughty old man, or was anyone else hoping the Steph/Cindy reward celebration would degrade into a drunken, love-making bubble bath scene?

12-09-2005, 08:32 AM	#259
Flame Eater H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Albany, NY	dola-- 1. Cindy should have given away the cars. It's a huge, giving act that she'd feel good about for the rest of her life, and it would have helped her in the game. Remember, you're playing for $1,000,000; don't worry about the $30,000 car! 2. When you win a reward: Tell everyone you had a great time, shut your mouth and then go get fire wood and water.

12-09-2005, 12:34 PM	#265
wishbone High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hillsboro OR	I thought it was a no-brainer to give away the 4 cars, couldn't imagine why anyone would keep the one. So I was shocked when Cindy kept the car. It helps you in the game or at least prevents you going on and on about it in camp and you can say "I won 4 cars on survivor"

12-09-2005, 12:39 PM	#266
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think she should've basically said "I'll give you the cars if you promise not to vote me off this round."

12-09-2005, 02:07 PM	#275
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/1....ap/index.html guess that answers that question...i for one am glad he is staying

12-09-2005, 02:44 PM	#276
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	When I said "for the Greater Good" I wasn't expressing that within terms of "the game." It is just that my instinct would be to give four people cars rather than keep one myself. That would be an incredibly selfless act, but I believe that would be my first instinct. That altruistic action would very possibly be overruled by my own selfish motivations. I think it would be very difficult to consider the in game ramifications of that decision on the spot that Cindy was in.

12-09-2005, 05:36 PM	#278
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	it's a lot easier to say you would give up the cars than to actually do it

12-13-2005, 03:50 PM	#279
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	Danni is fucking hot.

12-13-2005, 04:39 PM	#280
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Strange that my neighbor won. I imagine town's buzzing, though.

12-14-2005, 11:25 AM	#287
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm no tax lawyer, but I'd guess she would get at least $30k in cash in addition to the car.

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