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See I dont agree with that, running the Yankess shouldnt necessarily be easy. You will have alot of money to work with but, especially with prospects it should be a crapshoot. Scouting veterans should be dead on. This wont make running a small market team impossible but it would require smart moves and some luck similiar to the situation with the Twins and Athletics.
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SP Gene Conley's contract is up. He's a 29-year-old 9th-year player. He was 11-12 with a 4.82 ERA this year. He is rated 79 overall, and made $6.0M this year, has his top friend on the Phils,ma nd his personality is "self-centered."
INITIAL REQUEST: 6 years, $5.94M. INITIAL RUMOR: Gene is willing to be flexible to stay in Philadelphia. (flat-mouth face) WE OFFER: 4yrs/$5M. RESPONSE: You'll have to put more on the table before we agree to that. COUNTER-OFFER: 6yrs/$5.05M RUMOR: Money isn't Gene's number one priority. WE OFFER: 5yrs/$5M RESPONSE: We like the basic terms but we need a bit more. COUNTER-OFFER: 5yrs/$5.05M RUMOR: same Since he just came down a year, I offer him the same deal (5yrs/$5M), and he accepts.
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Actually I have played every version of Mogul. The twins and A's in real life are usually never able to sign more than middle or low tier free agents anyway. Also if you are using a small market team in Mogul the majority of your money SHOULD go to the farm team and this is quite effective. You can develop talent and eventually trade them away when they become too expensive. Thats not impossible thats reality.
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Wouldn't the best solution to the big-revenue/small-revenue and scouting accuracy issue be to cap the amount you could spend on scouting and even at that highest level of scouting retain some degree of inaccuracy? A big-revenue team could overcome that inaccuracy by simply being able to absorb more bad contracts than a small-revenue team.
This would model reality - the Yankees don't necessarily have a more accurate scouting department than the Twins or A's, but they can gobble up the best free agents without batting an eye, and if one or two of them bust, no biggie. |
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Is there a reason you can download the beta and play it?
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Just a quick reality check for all the BBM bandwagon jumpers.
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In both of those previews, I commented on *what the new features were*, just as I have in this thread. In neither case (nor in this one) was there ANY way that I could project how well the new features would work, or how buggy they'd be upon release--which is precisely why I put this caveat in this thread. If Clay decides to pull a Stallings and release this thing a good bit before it is ready to roll, then it'll surely go up in flames.
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All that I'm saying is how much did (or does) everyone still play those games? How much do you play those games?
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I've toyed with it some and really like the depth of the game as far as stats go and the ease to find just about anything you want. It feels like the old BBM, but has a lot more to it.
I'm hoping the bug reports get less and less as I can see the game has a lot of promise. It was a good great for posting dynasties, because it flowed so well and you don't have to worry about the tedious setup ootp has. Todd |
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SkyDog I for one would like to avoid the need for "house rules" so if a minimum variance could be coded that would be desired.
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Even though this thread is about Mogul, I STILL haven't read every post so I'm not 100% sure what you're referring to. If you want NO VARIANCE in the Simulation, you can check "Simulation Mode" when you start the game. This will avoid any random number calls used when the player matures and ages. So if Adam Dunn is probably going to hit 550 homers, he'll end up close to this number (although injuries will still occur randomly). The default mode of play has more variance. You might sign Dunn for $100 million, only to find his performance drop off the table (like Jason Giambi recently) or spike in his mid-30s (like Bonds). If you want NO VARIANCE in the Scouting, you can turn on Commissioner Mode. (As for running a small market team without good Scouting, the challenge is in squeezing the most info from the stats. This is basically the "Small Ball" philosophy. Billy Beane doesn't care much if a 21-year-old is a "five-tool player". He looks at the stats. If a guy had a .500 OBP in college, you know he should be pretty good at getting on base on the majors, even if your Scouting isn't the best in the league.) Clay Last edited by Dreslough : 03-04-2005 at 03:19 PM. |
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Just to clarify, Scouting of "+/- 7" means the "real" rating is anywhere from 7 points higher to 7 points lower. It COULD be exactly right or very close, and will be within 3 or 4 more often than off by 7. Clay Last edited by Dreslough : 03-04-2005 at 03:23 PM. |
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I've noticed when signing free agents after the game intialization, that their salary ends up being what they were initially demanding instead of what was negotiated. This happened for two players.
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Some folks have pointed out that our "Private Beta Test" isn't so private. The beta forum isn't locked and I've got better things to do right now than figure out why.
I'm OK with having more beta testers. So if you stumbled into a copy of the beta, you are welcome to try it. All I ask is that you keep it to yourself, and that you please reports any bugs in the Sports Mogul forums. (I won't post the link here. If you'd like to be a beta tester you'll have to go find the link at www.sportsmogul.com). Thanks for the interest and feedback! Clay |
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Not sure if you're still around but I'll try anyway. When I was referring to variance, I noticed that if you have A+ scouting the variance ultimately becomes +- 0. As I said earlier, you could spend billions on scouting, but there's always going to be speculation when it comes to scouting a player. Therefore, it was suggested that there should be a "cap" on the variance in the counting reports. Meaning...no matter how much you spend on scouting, your variance could never become 0 (personally, I'd like to see it at +- 5 as the bare minimum, but that's just me).
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Cool, 21c. In last year's version I never really noticed that.
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What about other factors besides injuries? Would playing in a pitcher's park reduce that number? How about overall quality of pitching in the league? If I were to bring in the historical NL pitchers from 1960 for instance, would that measurably limit his production throughout the decade? |
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I'm seeing way too many goofy trade offers between games. Does this level off?
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How do you watch just "your" game?
Also, I really like the headlines and how you can click on the stats and cycle through them right there, nice. Todd |
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i dont understand how the scouts expense Budget work?
i pick a high amount and it shows i am #1 among the other teams. but it shows i am a D+ in scouting for my team (News, Finances section). and if i change the expense amount on scouting lower or higher it still shows a D+ also i notice when changing my scout expense amount up or down, the +/- Number is still the same when i scout my player. |
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I have no idea how to post pictures, but I will relate my findings.
Ran a historical league on simulation mode last night beginning in the year 1901. 148 total hall of famers. 107 of those are pitchers. It seems a bit pitcher heavy to me. No Mickey Mantle in the HOF, no Babe Ruth, no Ty Cobb etc. So even on simulation mode there seems to be great variance. Also only one hitter has gotten to 3000 hits. Care to guess who it is? That's right, the immortal Shaun Dunston. And only 4 hitters have reached 500 home runs: Cecil Fielder, Gary Carter, Bob Robertson and Harmon Killebrew. |
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After finally making it through the whole thread, it sounds like Mogul will be worth a purchase. Never thought I'd be saying that....
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All the links to the beta I found were dead, can anyone help?
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The game looks really nice. A lot of new stuff that really makes this a completely new game for me (5 years later). A couple of notes after simming in simulation mode from 1901 until 1919:
1. The biggest issue I've seen so far is the worrisome trend of players spending way too much time in the minors in the middle/end of their careers. Nap Lajoie made the HoF, but only played in the majors through 2008. He spent all of 2009, part of 2010, then all of 2011 through 2015 in the minors, getting 7 ABs in 2015 before retiring. He hit well over .300 in every minor league season, although admittedly, his averages had begun to decline around 2007. Still, he probably should have retired earlier. Another strange one is Eddie Matteson, a reliever who pitched in the majors for 6 seasons, compiling a career ERA of 1.32. 1909 was his last season (1.64 ERA); he then spent the next decade in the minors before retiring in the spring of 1920. I don't get that one. 2. Since I mentioned Matteson, another thing I don't get is the all-time leader board. Matteson and his 239 career IP are atop the ERA leader board. Don't tell me a bunch of relievers and pinch-hitters are going to populate the Avg and ERA leaderboards. A bunch of guys from pre-1901 (I assume) lead the league in average, well over .300 each. Speed Kelly has a lifetime average of .410 in 527 ABs, and he's 6th in all-time average. Those aren't still there in 1980, are they?! Why are they even there now?!?! 3. FYI, it appears Babe Ruth comes in as a pitcher, so if you want him as a hitter, you probably need to begin around 1919 or so (haven't checked that specifically, but he did just win the 1919 Cy Young Award).
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