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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #251
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Boo! They should have ran a playaction pass to Seau! It's not unclassy, it's football!
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #252
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #253
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Have you seen the defense? They couldn't stop a pee-wee football team.

yeah, but they have a better chance of stopping that then a FG.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #254
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Have you seen the defense? They couldn't stop a pee-wee football team.

Wow, so you're saying the Dolphins are worse than a pee-wee football team? I'd have to say I agree with you there.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #255
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #256
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They need to show more stats. We can't get enough of how good the Patriots are.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:47 PM   #257
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Why are they even trying to to pretend like the Pats aren't trying to run it up when they're going for it on 4th down? Talk about sounding like asshats.

1. Because they could possibly not make it. 2. Going for it likely keeps the clock moving. 3. Kicking a chipshot fieldgoal is putting points on the board, whereas making a first down does not. 4. I understand taking the starters out but would you have them not try or simply quit?
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:48 PM   #258
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Wow, so you're saying the Dolphins are worse than a pee-wee football team? I'd have to say I agree with you there.

We give the Pats six wins they don't work for between the Dolphins, Jets, and Bills. Between those three, it's pee-wee football.

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Old 11-18-2007, 09:50 PM   #259
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Just like that Texas-Baltimore 30-run baseball game. Players don't go up there purposely trying to strike out or lay down easy bunts.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:51 PM   #260
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I have that feeling as well, seems like one of these players is going to get pissed by the Pats running up the score and go for some knees...
Oh please. It's not like the Pats would ever take the Bills' QB's knees out on a cheap hit.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:51 PM   #261
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I think at this point no one can argue that the Patriots are not trying to run up the score.. It is pretty comical how easy they are doing it.

I think the only arguement left is whether or not it even matters. I personally have no problem seeing any one run up the score on any team as long as it is not against my Falcons.. I actually end up rooting for them to score as many points as possible.

But yeah.. anyone trying to say they aren't running up the score.. time for a reality check..
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #262
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #263
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #264
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #265
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #266
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When it rains it pours! Madden is so right about everything.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #267
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #268
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is this a franchise record in points now? I thought the Pats franchise record was 55
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:53 PM   #269
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Is it just me, or could of Evans or Losman have tackled him? Looks like didn't even try.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:53 PM   #270
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:54 PM   #271
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This is kind of like hiring the Terminator to come beat up some kid in 1st grade.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:54 PM   #272
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I think at this point no one can argue that the Patriots are not trying to run up the score.. It is pretty comical how easy they are doing it.

I think the only arguement left is whether or not it even matters. I personally have no problem seeing any one run up the score on any team as long as it is not against my Falcons.. I actually end up rooting for them to score as many points as possible.

But yeah.. anyone trying to say they aren't running up the score.. time for a reality check..

So Hobbs should have fallen down and not try to run with the ball?
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:56 PM   #273
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Is it just me, or could of Evans or Losman have tackled him? Looks like didn't even try.

What? And show up their defense?!
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:58 PM   #274
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Is it just me, or could of Evans or Losman have tackled him? Looks like didn't even try.

Pathetic when a team just quits and not try, isn't it?
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:58 PM   #275
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Evans still has a chance to get me some points.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:58 PM   #276
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:59 PM   #277
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So Hobbs should have fallen down and not try to run with the ball?

My post was before that play for the record, and I've already stated that I have no problem with running up the score.. So not sure what you are asking me there
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:59 PM   #278
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Pointed out on another board: It's the fourth quarter, and the Pats now have more touchdowns than offensive possesions.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:01 PM   #279
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So Losman decides to throw into three or four defenders.....
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:03 PM   #280
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Bills should've gone for it on 4th down.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:12 PM   #281
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The limit is six prime time games for any team, and I think it breaks down as follows.

3 NBC (San Diego, Buffalo, Philly)
2 ESPN (Cincinatti, Baltimore)
1 NFL Network (NYG)

So next week's game is the last game on NBC
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:24 PM   #282
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Look I understand the Pats are good.
I understand Brady is unbelievable, but at this point I think Madden would suck him off if given the chance.

I mean come on. I am not a Pats hater, and actually even like Bellichek, but damn John could you tell me again how good Brady is?

I keep waiting to for him to tell me how sexy and manly he tastes DAMN
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:24 PM   #283
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First time i might have ever agreed with Madden... if people think you shouldn't be running up the score, why go into a 2 minute offense down by 46?

Either way, was a much more fun game to watch the pats play than the 49ers game I went to live today.. At least it spared me from watching my team get demolished.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:31 PM   #284
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Scary thought. if Brady gets only two td's a game the rest of the way, he will break the single season TD record.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:37 PM   #285
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so, has anyone asked John Madden, what better Brady or Favre?
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:39 PM   #286
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:46 PM   #287
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I think at this point no one can argue that the Patriots are not trying to run up the score.. It is pretty comical how easy they are doing it.


If "running up the score" just means still trying to score points when the game has been decided, then obviously the Pats do that (as does every other team, at least to some extent).

But I think the "running up the score" thing implies a maliciousness, this idea that they're only scoring to make the other team look as bad as possible. I don't think Bellichick gives a shit about the other team, I still think this is ongoing long term strategy. He doesn't want his team coasting, ever, he wants them to have their foot on the gas all year long so they're not flat in a divisional playoff game that will be their first meaningful game since the Colts win.

Going for in on 4th and inches early in the 4th quarter can't ever been considered "running it up the score", when as others have stated, you're basically taking points off the board in an attempt to make the game end more quickly. It also creates less total meaningless game plays, particularly for your defensive players, who you're trying to keep healthy. You get that first down, you're burning at least 2 more minutes off the clock, and more importantly, maintaining possession so that less plays will be run in those final minutes.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:59 PM   #288
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And the Patriots had backup players all over the field for most of the 4th quarter - I don't know where this "karma is going to get them" stuff is coming from. Are other coaches pulling QBs and star WRs out in the 3rd quarter of blowout games?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:06 AM   #289
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Its the damn NFL, not Pee Wee's, High School, or College football. If you can't stop the other team from scoring then get on your team's coaching staff, general manager, and owner and ask why the hell your team sucks so bad.

These guys make enough money and are old enough that taking an ass kicking isn't going to scar them for life.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:10 AM   #290
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Anybody know what the point of the angle of the armbar for the goalpost is? Why is it curved and not straight up and down? Physics?

So the base of the goal posts isn't right on the backline of the endzone would be my guess. Would seem to be that way so players are less likely to run into it.

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Old 11-19-2007, 12:24 AM   #291
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When the Packers were up 27-0 on the Vikings last week, Favre threw another TD pass with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter to make it 34-0. Nobody said a word about running up the score! After that, they took Favre out and put in Rogers. But the Patriots run in a TD early in the 4th quarter from the 1 yard line to make it 49-10 and they're running up the score! After that, they took out Brady and put in Cassell. So what's the difference?Nothing! Anyone saying they're running up the score is an idiot. If you don't want them to score on you, stop them! It's not the Patriots fault they're so much better than anybody else.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:44 AM   #292
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Can we just skip the Sunday night game next week?


I have to say that I am at least rooting for a perfect season for the Pats at this point as long as it shuts those old fart Dolphins the hell up. I'm tired of hearing them every time a team makes a run at them. They sound like grumpy ass old men trying to get some kids off their lawn. They should be freaking glad that teams make a run at them so they can get their names in the news again, there's not other reason for us to hear them.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:58 AM   #293
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Its the damn NFL, not Pee Wee's, High School, or College football. If you can't stop the other team from scoring then get on your team's coaching staff, general manager, and owner and ask why the hell your team sucks so bad.

These guys make enough money and are old enough that taking an ass kicking isn't going to scar them for life.


Thats pretty much my point about it. I actually find myself cheering them on to score more every game and was a bit disapointed to see them take out Brady to be honest. I don't understand why running up the score is a bad thing and why people are trying to make excuses for it. They pretty much are doing what I can only want to do in video games at this point.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:23 AM   #294
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Someone please explain to me why the Pats are essentially supposed to run the ball into the line on every single play in the fourth quarter but yet it's ok for Buffalo to run their 2-minute offense at the end of the game. If you expect the other team's offense to lay down, you should be laying down yourself, no?
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:01 AM   #295
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Its the damn NFL, not Pee Wee's, High School, or College football. If you can't stop the other team from scoring then get on your team's coaching staff, general manager, and owner and ask why the hell your team sucks so bad.

These guys make enough money and are old enough that taking an ass kicking isn't going to scar them for life.

Maybe the problem is people like me. I would add most Top 25, conference, and bowl college football games in that equation as well. That is a separate issue.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:56 AM   #296
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I have that feeling as well, seems like one of these players is going to get pissed by the Pats running up the score and go for some knees...

Up by 32, take your starters out...why risk it?

My $$$ is on Anthony Smith from the Steelers. If NE is up big on Pittsburgh in a few weeks, Smith is the type of young, hotheaded punk who would go low at Brady, after a whistle if needed.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:57 AM   #297
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:35 AM   #298
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I can't seem to get scores anywhere through my net blocker at work -- can someone post them? Thanks!
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:57 AM   #299
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:22 AM   #300
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Someone please explain to me why the Pats are essentially supposed to run the ball into the line on every single play in the fourth quarter but yet it's ok for Buffalo to run their 2-minute offense at the end of the game. If you expect the other team's offense to lay down, you should be laying down yourself, no?

this has always been my point. if you're asking the one team to essentially "call it a day" then the other team should have to do the same. otherwise i'd say you probably have a greater risk of guys getting injured when one team is "taking it easy" then you do if both teams are playing at the same intensity
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