2009 MLB Regular Season Thread - Page 58

Crapshoot · 07-09-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Yep, once he gave up the hit it seemed like his focus was gone and the next thing you know the Pads put together a couple bloop hits and some walks for 3 runs.

The goddamn Padres are like the little kid in the division no one likes or cares about but keep annoying you; they need a rival, but the Giants and Dodgers have each other at least. San Diego? nothing.

SackAttack · 07-10-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

LOL Andruw matched last year's HR total (and probably nearly matched his hit total!) in one game last night. LA really should have some sort of recourse against a guy who was that out of shape and completely shit the bed last year.

They're still on the hook for most of that contract.

I wonder if they can give it to him in pennies?

Or better yet, McDonald's gift certificates?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-10-2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

Or you can thank their ridiculous pen where the highest ERA is like 3.50 or something.

Dear miked,

The jinx of the pen was appreciated.

Sincerely,
The Royals

MrDNA · 07-10-2009, 09:14 AM

My favorite story from yesterday (via Big League Stew):

Nationals 11, Astros 10 (11 inn. — completion of suspended game)
The first game passed through different dimensions. After a rain delay of 65 days and 1,400 miles, the Nationals took all of 7 minutes to beat the Astros in game one. Joel Hanrahan (notes) picked up the victory, even though he's on the Pirates now. Nyjer Morgan (notes) scored the winning run, even though he wasn't on the Nats when the game started, in D.C., on May 5.

larrymcg421 · 07-10-2009, 09:20 AM

I wonder if a guy in a similar situation has ever recorded a win against his own team?

Ksyrup · 07-10-2009, 09:37 AM

I don't know, but Joel Youngblood got a hit in two different games for two different teams on the same day in the early 80s. He got traded after a day game and was able to make it to his new team's night game.

Ksyrup · 07-10-2009, 11:08 AM

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From the great Kevin Hines of the Elias Sports Bureau: "Like father, like son. Tony Gwynn Sr. broke up a no-hitter in the 7th inning or later five times. Most notably, he broke one up against a pitcher who was quite similar in style to Lincecum, Orel Hershiser (1985) (and it was) also leading off the 7th inning.

"Hershiser had a scoreless string during his career of 59 IP. Lincecum had one of 29 broken today."

MikeVic · 07-10-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I wonder if a guy in a similar situation has ever recorded a win against his own team?

I remember an odd fact from a baseball card or something about Tony Castillo on the Jays... I think he got a win or save against his former team when a postponed game was resumed.

TurnerONU22 · 07-10-2009, 12:03 PM

I didn't see a mention of another 'oddity' that occurred this week involving Washington: Alan Embree picked up a victory for Colorado without throwing a pitch.

Washington Nationals vs. Colorado Rockies - Recap - July 07, 2009 - ESPN

Embree came on in relief with two outs in the 8th inning, then picked off Austin Kearns before throwing a pitch. Rockies score in the bottom of the 8th to allow Embree to pick up the victory.

kingfc22 · 07-10-2009, 01:39 PM

Charlie Manual chooses Jayson Werth over Sandoval.

Glad you have your entire OF in the All-Star game now.

Dr. Sak · 07-10-2009, 01:43 PM

Good for Charlie

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-10-2009, 01:45 PM

Neither deserve it over Sandoval, but especially Victorino.

Karlifornia · 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM

Fuck you, Charlie Manuel, you dumb shit.

Ksyrup · 07-10-2009, 02:21 PM

To the victors goes the spoils, right?

Who the hell cares about the All-Star Game anyway? I'm a huge baseball fan, and I'm not sure I'll even be watching.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-10-2009, 02:22 PM

Something to argue about.

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Charlie Manual chooses Jayson Werth over Sandoval.

Glad you have your entire OF in the All-Star game now.

Wow.

Karlifornia · 07-10-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

To the victors goes the spoils, right?

Who the hell cares about the All-Star Game anyway? I'm a huge baseball fan, and I'm not sure I'll even be watching.

This is really the only All-Star game worth watching. I care. I admit it.

Dr. Sak · 07-10-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

To the victors goes the spoils, right?

Who the hell cares about the All-Star Game anyway? I'm a huge baseball fan, and I'm not sure I'll even be watching.

BECAUSE THIS ONE MATTERS!

...or something like that

RedKingGold · 07-10-2009, 03:48 PM

Heh, I love the outrage.

Crapshoot · 07-10-2009, 04:38 PM

Charlie Manuel is a frigging ass. Is he going to select Carlos Ruiz next? Maybe Brad Lidge?

Ryan Howard on the team is a fucking joke as is; the most overrrated player in baseball (he ranks 12th amongst NL 1b in wOBA!). Perhaps he'd like to just send out the Phillies?

JonInMiddleGA · 07-10-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Maybe Brad Lidge?

Don't give him any ideas.

MrDNA · 07-10-2009, 04:50 PM

I do wonder how many people complaining have actually looked at Jayson Werth's stats. As a Phillie fan I don't think Howard should be going (I understand it's his home town, etc.) but the other 24 Phillies are Kosher

DeToxRox · 07-10-2009, 05:09 PM

Mets trade Church for Francour ... K...?

Logan · 07-10-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Mets trade Church for Francour ... K...?

Can't say I understand this at all. If Church stays healthy, he's a pretty solid hitter. Would've been nice to add another piece to the deal since Franceour will be gone after the season.

DeToxRox · 07-10-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Can't say I understand this at all. If Church stays healthy, he's a pretty solid hitter. Would've been nice to add another piece to the deal since Franceour will be gone after the season.

Or you know, since Franceour is pretty fucking terrible.

Dr. Sak · 07-10-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Heh, I love the outrage.

+1

Also gotta love the Mets trade

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Mets trade Church for Francour ... K...?

Link? I don't see it anywhere so I'm desperately wishing its super false.

Atocep · 07-10-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Link? I don't see it anywhere so I'm desperately wishing its super false.

MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

If its true I'm going to have a hard time facing my friends. I may have to lay low for a couple years.

Logan · 07-10-2009, 05:20 PM

They announced it on ESPN. Metsblog also has it.

Big Fo · 07-10-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Link? I don't see it anywhere so I'm desperately wishing its super false.

Baltimore Sun

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NEW YORK (AP) — The slumping New York Mets have traded outfielder Ryan Church to the Atlanta Braves for outfielder Jeff Francoeur.

The deal came Friday, with the injury-ravaged Mets trying to avoid falling farther back in the NL East race.

Church is hitting .280 with two home runs and 22 RBIs. Francoeur is hitting .250 with five homers and 35 RBIs.

Those three doubles last night were just the start of his resurgance

Seriously though I'm glad Atlanta got rid of this guy and to get a respectable major leaguer back in return is amazing.

larrymcg421 · 07-10-2009, 05:24 PM

Why would the Mets do this?

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Crap

I want to hunt down and kill Minaya.

Logan · 07-10-2009, 05:26 PM

I know Manuel didn't like Church, but it still makes no sense. The team was too left-handed when everyone was healthy...not so much now. That's why I'm hoping a mid-range prospect was thrown in, otherwise Minaya is batshit insane.

Atocep · 07-10-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Why would the Mets do this?

Instead of suffering through a painful, injury filled season that just slowly deteriorates Minaya apparently thinks its best to just do the humane thing and put Mets fans out of the misery quickly.

larrymcg421 · 07-10-2009, 05:31 PM

It's pretty bad when Frank Wrens pwns you in a trade.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-10-2009, 05:31 PM

Straight up.

http://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/statuses/2574427425

A real head-scratcher.

Atocep · 07-10-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I know Manuel didn't like Church, but it still makes no sense.

The obvious solution here is to fire Manuel. I've heard he doesn't care much for Reyes either so maybe Omar will trade him for Alex Rios.

Jas_lov · 07-10-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I know Manuel didn't like Church, but it still makes no sense. The team was too left-handed when everyone was healthy...not so much now. That's why I'm hoping a mid-range prospect was thrown in, otherwise Minaya is batshit insane.

If Manuel didn't like Church they should have gotten rid of Manuel.

larrymcg421 · 07-10-2009, 05:34 PM

Quick, someone pitch Kelly Johnson for Reyes to Minaya before he gets sober.

Atocep · 07-10-2009, 05:38 PM

I've defended Omar up until this point. He's made made mistakes, but has done a decent job.

Now, I hope he's fired at the end of the year and they bring in someone smart enough to know that there isn't a player on the Mets 40 man roster that's worth trading for Francoeur.

I'm seriously sitting here dreading any of my friends signing onto MSN tonight.

Logan · 07-10-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

If Manuel didn't like Church they should have gotten rid of Manuel.

Well, let's not make Church into something he's not (I know asking you to cut the hyperbole is impossible, but whatever). This trade is shit because Francoeur is shit, not because Church is a stud.

k0ruptr · 07-10-2009, 05:40 PM

IMO Victorino is having a pretty good year, I think its all star worthy, juts not as much as sandoval.

Jas_lov · 07-10-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Well, let's not make Church into something he's not (I know asking you to cut the hyperbole is impossible, but whatever). This trade is shit because Francoeur is shit, not because Church is a stud.

I'm aware of why the trade is shit. I'm just saying they'd be a lot better off without Manuel.

miked · 07-10-2009, 05:58 PM

Wow, a steal for the Braves. Get a shitty guy off the team and actually get a warm body back. One that doesn't incessantly bitch too.

k0ruptr · 07-10-2009, 06:24 PM

The braves GM thought he was playing a baseball text sim after that trade.

Mr. Sparkle · 07-10-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA

I do wonder how many people complaining have actually looked at Jayson Werth's stats. As a Phillie fan I don't think Howard should be going (I understand it's his home town, etc.) but the other 24 Phillies are Kosher

I wonder how many people have looked at Pablo Sandoval's stats. The Panda was fucking robbed. Robbed, I say!

On another note, I can't believe the Braves were able to trade Francoeur for anyone remotely resembling a major leaguer. I also find it hilarious that the Royals, who were reportedly interested in Francoeur a while back, traded for someone who manages to get on base less than he does in Yuniesky Betancourt.

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Yeah, regardless of Werth's value, Sandoval has been amazing this season.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-10-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

On another note, I can't believe the Braves were able to trade Francoeur for anyone remotely resembling a major leaguer.

I'm not at all convinced that the 2009 model of Church fits that description by much more than the narrowest of margins

That aside though, since someone wondered about any other pieces to the deal, the AJC says the Braves will send "some cash" to the Mets but no other players are involved.

RedKingGold · 07-10-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

IMO Victorino is having a pretty good year, I think its all star worthy, juts not as much as sandoval.

I don't think people were that upset about the Victorino selection because it was the "fan vote". I can understand the upset over Werth being selected, but I don't really give a crap because I'm a Phillies fan.

RedKingGold · 07-10-2009, 07:36 PM

lol at the Mets trade. Of course, I've just jinxed Amaro into doing something crazier or stupider (like signing Pedro).

07-10-2009, 09:14 AM	#2854
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	My favorite story from yesterday (via Big League Stew): Nationals 11, Astros 10 (11 inn. — completion of suspended game) The first game passed through different dimensions. After a rain delay of 65 days and 1,400 miles, the Nationals took all of 7 minutes to beat the Astros in game one. Joel Hanrahan (notes) picked up the victory, even though he's on the Pirates now. Nyjer Morgan (notes) scored the winning run, even though he wasn't on the Nats when the game started, in D.C., on May 5. __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

07-10-2009, 09:20 AM	#2855
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I wonder if a guy in a similar situation has ever recorded a win against his own team? __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

07-10-2009, 09:37 AM	#2856
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't know, but Joel Youngblood got a hit in two different games for two different teams on the same day in the early 80s. He got traded after a day game and was able to make it to his new team's night game. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-10-2009, 12:03 PM	#2859
TurnerONU22 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ashville, OH	I didn't see a mention of another 'oddity' that occurred this week involving Washington: Alan Embree picked up a victory for Colorado without throwing a pitch. Washington Nationals vs. Colorado Rockies - Recap - July 07, 2009 - ESPN Embree came on in relief with two outs in the 8th inning, then picked off Austin Kearns before throwing a pitch. Rockies score in the bottom of the 8th to allow Embree to pick up the victory. Last edited by TurnerONU22 : 07-10-2009 at 12:03 PM.

07-10-2009, 01:39 PM	#2860
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Charlie Manual chooses Jayson Werth over Sandoval. Glad you have your entire OF in the All-Star game now. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-10-2009, 01:43 PM	#2861
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Good for Charlie

07-10-2009, 01:45 PM	#2862
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Neither deserve it over Sandoval, but especially Victorino. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-10-2009, 02:06 PM	#2863
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Fuck you, Charlie Manuel, you dumb shit. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

07-10-2009, 02:21 PM	#2864
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	To the victors goes the spoils, right? Who the hell cares about the All-Star Game anyway? I'm a huge baseball fan, and I'm not sure I'll even be watching. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-10-2009, 02:22 PM	#2865
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Something to argue about. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-10-2009, 03:48 PM	#2869
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Heh, I love the outrage.

07-10-2009, 04:38 PM	#2870
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Charlie Manuel is a frigging ass. Is he going to select Carlos Ruiz next? Maybe Brad Lidge? Ryan Howard on the team is a fucking joke as is; the most overrrated player in baseball (he ranks 12th amongst NL 1b in wOBA!). Perhaps he'd like to just send out the Phillies?

07-10-2009, 04:50 PM	#2872
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	I do wonder how many people complaining have actually looked at Jayson Werth's stats. As a Phillie fan I don't think Howard should be going (I understand it's his home town, etc.) but the other 24 Phillies are Kosher __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

07-10-2009, 05:09 PM	#2873
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Mets trade Church for Francour ... K...?

07-10-2009, 05:20 PM	#2879
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	They announced it on ESPN. Metsblog also has it.

07-10-2009, 05:24 PM	#2881
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Why would the Mets do this? __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

07-10-2009, 05:25 PM	#2882
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Crap I want to hunt down and kill Minaya. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-10-2009, 05:26 PM	#2883
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I know Manuel didn't like Church, but it still makes no sense. The team was too left-handed when everyone was healthy...not so much now. That's why I'm hoping a mid-range prospect was thrown in, otherwise Minaya is batshit insane.

07-10-2009, 05:31 PM	#2885
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	It's pretty bad when Frank Wrens pwns you in a trade. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

07-10-2009, 05:31 PM	#2886
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Straight up. http://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/statuses/2574427425 A real head-scratcher. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-10-2009, 05:34 PM	#2889
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Quick, someone pitch Kelly Johnson for Reyes to Minaya before he gets sober. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

07-10-2009, 05:38 PM	#2890
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	I've defended Omar up until this point. He's made made mistakes, but has done a decent job. Now, I hope he's fired at the end of the year and they bring in someone smart enough to know that there isn't a player on the Mets 40 man roster that's worth trading for Francoeur. I'm seriously sitting here dreading any of my friends signing onto MSN tonight.

07-10-2009, 05:40 PM	#2892
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	IMO Victorino is having a pretty good year, I think its all star worthy, juts not as much as sandoval.

07-10-2009, 05:58 PM	#2894
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Wow, a steal for the Braves. Get a shitty guy off the team and actually get a warm body back. One that doesn't incessantly bitch too. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

07-10-2009, 06:24 PM	#2895
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	The braves GM thought he was playing a baseball text sim after that trade.

07-10-2009, 06:43 PM	#2897
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, regardless of Werth's value, Sandoval has been amazing this season. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-10-2009, 07:36 PM	#2900
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	lol at the Mets trade. Of course, I've just jinxed Amaro into doing something crazier or stupider (like signing Pedro).

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