Obama versus McCain (versus the rest)

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

ouch, did he just say the word "islamic" offends terrorists? Maybe I heard it wrong. Im not sure I even understand the point but I wonder what he meant.

I really didn't get that part.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Think the GOP could just, you know, sub Rudy in for McCain for public appearances between now & November?

Walked through the den & right into the middle of his barn burner. Solid gap power to go with some that cleared the fences while I was watching.

[Jas_lov]

He said when you use the word islamic terrorists you offend terrorists. John McCain didn't change his position on the surge to win an election, but didn't he change his position on other issues to appear more Republican?

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

noun + verb + 9/11 right? rinse and repeat

I really didn't hear many 9/11 references (I was worried he would use them a lot).

[Galaxy]

I don't trust Rudi's wife just by looking at her.

[Flasch186]

I thought his speech has been pretty much perfect.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

I don't trust Rudi's wife just by looking at her.

Mistress in the mayor's mansion ftfw

[Young Drachma]

It's not an accident to have say, Cindy McCain next to Bristol Palin to relieve her of baby holding duty. She's been toting that kid around by herself since this whole deal started. Not that it's unexpected in a big family, but..geez.

[Galaxy]

I like how they keep showing Bristol's fiancee.

[Young Drachma]

Guess Rudy talked too long, so they jettisoned Lingle and just let the star have the show.

[sabotai]

Well at least "thank you" to Rudy go going too long for them to show the 15 minute educational video of Podunk, Alaska and its former mayor.

[Flasch186]

Well it's gonna be hard for her to follow Rudy and get the climax of the night but she certainly can coast in now, great lead in by Rudy.

[MrDNA]

Guiliani's speech was surprisingly negative. I think he had a lead pipe behind the podium, just in case he needed to ramp it up a notch.

[Young Drachma]

Are they gonna keep trotting the John S. McCain talk, so they can start calling Barack Hussein?

[JPhillips]

Is it just me or has Palin lost some of her accent since her acceptance?

[Young Drachma]

And her accent is gonna win her some fans in Ordinarylandia.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Is it just me or has Palin lost some of her accent since her acceptance?

Seems to me like she's turning it up a notch.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Guess Rudy talked too long, so they jettisoned Lingle and just let the star have the show.

Lingle went before Rudy.

[Flasch186]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Is it just me or has Palin lost some of her accent since her acceptance?

no.

[MrDNA]

Based on Palin's kids' names, if we aquire any new states during a McCain term, I hope she doesn't get to name them.

[sabotai]

Snow....machine racer? WTF is that?

EDIT: Googled it. Snow mobiles. They call them "snow machines" in Alaska?

[Jas_lov]

Especially the special needs kid. Vote for her if you have a special needs kid because she has one too. When is she going to shutup about her family?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

Lingle went before Rudy.

Oh gotcha.

[MrDNA]

I didn't watch Biden's speech - did he do all this "Here I am, this is my background/family" crap?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Snow....machine racer? WTF is that?

Alaskans called snowmobiles snow machines.

It's really funny the first time you hear it. It's so weird that even people in Wyoming go "what?"

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Snow....machine racer? WTF is that?

Snowmobile racer.

[Galaxy]

So you guys want to know who she is, with the leftist trying to dig up all the information on her, but then get mad that she goes on to explain it?

[Flasch186]

she winged it on an adlib and hit a zinger, nice.

"you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull....Lipstick."

[sabotai]

Was that a party crasher they were taking out?

[Young Drachma]

Man. Going after Barry.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

she winged it on an adlib and hit a zinger, nice.

"you know the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull....Lipstick."

That was a pretty good zinger.

[MrDNA]

Yes, Ms. Palin, it's because you're not part of "Washington Elite" that people don't think you're qualified. Sheesh.

[Young Drachma]

Say what you want though...she's been preening for a moment like this and man, she's playing right into the hands of her audience. The left-wing nuts are gonna have to play this one with kid gloves and treat her like she's irrelevant or else, the folks that elected W are gonna ignore McCain to elect their female Reagan.

[mauchow]

Where ever he goes and whoever is listening, john mccain is the same man...?

I guess I didn't get that.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

I didn't watch Biden's speech - did he do all this "Here I am, this is my background/family" crap?

Not really - he spent maybe the first sixth or so on himself and then went onto policy stuff. But what else does she have to fill the time? Lame standup, I guess.

SI

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Not really - he spent maybe the first sixth or so on himself and then went onto policy stuff. But what else does she have to fill the time? Lame standup, I guess.

SI

But everyone knows Biden.

[MrDNA]

Did she just say she stuck it to Big Oil? Before or after her husband got all that dough?

[SFL Cat]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

Yes, Ms. Palin, it's because you're not part of "Washington Elite" that people don't think you're qualified. Sheesh.

Actually, I think that one will probably resonate.

[Jas_lov]

Why do they keep knocking Obama's community work? Is this a good strategy to win over undecideds? She's a likeable person but I couldn't imagine her being President. She's doing a pretty good job though.

[mauchow]

Woopsies. They showed the prompt going across the screen on tv.. lol

[Young Drachma]

Vote Sarah! She's one of us!

Maybe this is just a setup for her '12 run with Bobby Jindal. Barack Obama = Jimmy Carter?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Why do they keep knocking Obama's community work? Is this a good strategy to win over undecideds? She's a likeable person but I couldn't imagine her being President. She's doing a pretty good job though.

Because they don't even know what community organizers do. To them, it's like neighborhood watch.

[MrDNA]

Can anyone make out what the crowd is cheering other than "USA"?

[sterlingice]

It's a very effective speech for the goal of playing to the right. The moderates might be a bit more put off, tho. She's gotten off some really nice zingers and played the "I'm a down home mom" thing well but sheneeds to lay off it soon or look like someone who just rolled off the PTA.

Personally, I can't stand her, tho- sounds like a complete and total asshole (or bitch, if you prefer the gender term).

SI

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Why do they keep knocking Obama's community work? Is this a good strategy to win over undecideds? She's a likeable person but I couldn't imagine her being President. She's doing a pretty good job though.

I wonder if that's a smart choice. I don't know what a "community organizer" does, but they probably have some sway over the community they "organize" and Palin might have offended them a bit with that line.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Not being a leftist and generally uninterested in the scandals, I just found it kind of creepy when she started to talk about special needs kids, the camera zooms onto her husband and child, and then he stands up with the baby.

She has been very impressive though, very charismatic. It's funny, because she's like the GOP Obama.

I understand that. However, isn't the media in control of the cameras?

At least Flasch and you seem open to being non-bias on the speeches tonight, even though you seem to lean to the left.

[MrDNA]

They gave her some good lines. Although I don't get the idea of "Obama is a good speaker, hence a bad choice."

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Personally, I can't stand her, tho- sounds like a complete and total asshole (or bitch, if you prefer the gender term).

SI

This is what needs to be cleared up. If a man sounds tough, he sounds great (like Rudi or Obama). However, if a woman sounds tough, she sounds like a bitch/asshole.

[Flasch186]

I think her speech has been absolutely perfect. They recognize the audience, she's engaged, she self depricating, she's been poignant, been issue-centric, and had zingers and pulled them off. If Obama's speech was perfect for that same stuff, so has this been. She killed it tonight....and she's not done yet.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

It's a very effective speech for the goal of playing to the right. The moderates might be a bit more put off, tho. She's gotten off some really nice zingers and played the "I'm a down home mom" thing well but sheneeds to lay off it soon or look like someone who just rolled off the PTA.

Personally, I can't stand her, tho- sounds like a complete and total asshole (or bitch, if you prefer the gender term).

SI

I'm really interested in the numbers on moderates over the next couple of days. No doubt she's giving a barn burner for the base, but is it playing to moderates? I don't claim to know, but it certainly seems that she's more focused on the right than the middle.

Not a bad line on career's to promote change. She's got rhetorical skills.