Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by path12

If that's the case, seeing how the votes are stacking up, it makes no sense to lie about any role info at this point if they're good. It only makes sense if they're bad.

1. The rules clearly state that their is only one hidden role. Note:scavenger is not listed.

2. Two mystics would seem to unfairly balance the game in our favor. Let's assume for a second that blade was not killed. Are you telling me that we could have 1 EG, 2 avatars and a favored by the gods all at one time? And the necs do not know who each other are.

[saldana]

shit, i have to drive home, i guess i will see how this ends in about half an hour

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Because I believe he has more powers to find necros or help the village. I am a 3 day person who can only protect. The necros can just wait me out.

And Lathum did not tell me to change my vote. This is a lynch where the eqyptians are going to lose, and I am the smallest loss.

To me this is a huge hint that Lathum is the Prophecy. If he is just a scavanger, then how could he be much more valuable in the future? It is not a huge seeming role.

Of course, you said he hasn't told you his role Fouts, so....

[Barkeep49]

I don't think the prophet is on our side. But I fear what will happen if we kill him.

Unvote Lathum
Vote Fouts

[Barkeep49]

Tangle I agree, Lathum is the prophecy. It explains all the unexplained. So it just leaves whether he's good or evil. Lynching Fouts tells us more about that.

[Fouts]

Funny how I started the day trying to save myself, and now I'm asking you to vote for me. A great day for the Necros.

[tanglewood]

At this point I am going to go for Fouts.

If he is a mummy we have killed the mummy.
If he is the avatar, at least we still have alive whoever summoned him.

It is the least worst situation at the moment as far as I am concerned.

Vote Fouts

[path12]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Tangle I agree, Lathum is the prophecy. It explains all the unexplained. So it just leaves whether he's good or evil. Lynching Fouts tells us more about that.

So then is Lathum the one to vote for or is Fouts?

[kingfc22]

I really wish hoops was around. Just dying to see what happens.

[path12]

Or dola, if the vote goes to Fouts is it worth trying the duke?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Tangle I agree, Lathum is the prophecy. It explains all the unexplained. So it just leaves whether he's good or evil. Lynching Fouts tells us more about that.

Just think how good we would have had it. Lathum secure, an Avatar to protect and a necro dead.

Ah well, such is the game of WW.

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by saldana

fouts, your duty is to protect the egyptians, not just lathum, so why not vote for him?

FWIW, this is terrible logic Saldana. If Fouts is a good guy, why would he vote for a confirmed to him good guy?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by path12

Or dola, if the vote goes to Fouts is it worth trying the duke?

You're the Pharaoh. Tell them what to do.

[Abe Sargent]

I still think Lathum, BK, sorry. If you off our mystic, you are no ally.


-Anxiety

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by path12

Or dola, if the vote goes to Fouts is it worth trying the duke?

I would say yes. Switch it to someone, anyone.

Maybe Dubb, but then if Lathum is the prophecy maybe he was genuinly screwed with.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by path12

So then is Lathum the one to vote for or is Fouts?

Are we sure that if the summoner dies that the avatar/mummy dies with him?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by path12

Or dola, if the vote goes to Fouts is it worth trying the duke?

No. I think the risk/reward of duking here is too small. It would be different if we didn't think they were both one or the other.

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Are we sure that if the summoner dies that the avatar/mummy dies with him?

To me it makes sense.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by path12

Or dola, if the vote goes to Fouts is it worth trying the duke?

The question is what do you we do if Fouts dies and we get some horrible mismash that he isn't a mummy? Lathum has been lying to us all day about his role for some reason and I highly doubt it is a good one. At this point I think we're gonna have to kill lathum no matter how this goes down and I'd rather try for the 2 for 1 right now.

[Fouts]

Path, if you believe I am an Avatar, then Lathum is good. Lathum has said he believes Alan is a necro.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Fouts

You're the Pharaoh. Tell them what to do.

I'm a benevolent ruler. I listen to my people.

[Barkeep49]

Well if you're going to duke duke Alan T. Be bold. Win the game. Duke a necro.

[Alan T]

I think tanglewood is giving awful advice here. You are basically telling him to duke someone who very well might be an egyptian thus losing his ability

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

The question is what do you we do if Fouts dies and we get some horrible mismash that he isn't a mummy? Lathum has been lying to us all day about his role for some reason and I highly doubt it is a good one. At this point I think we're gonna have to kill lathum no matter how this goes down and I'd rather try for the 2 for 1 right now.

OMG.

[Barkeep49]

I think we're past deadline.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Path, if you believe I am an Avatar, then Lathum is good. Lathum has said he believes Alan is a necro.

I don't know WHAT you are!

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

No. I think the risk/reward of duking here is too small. It would be different if we didn't think they were both one or the other.

My thought on this is that you can't take the duke with you after death.

[Barkeep49]

So if all goes according to plan I will be dead in the morning.

[tanglewood]

Oh well, past the deadline.

So Fouts, what are you really?

[Barkeep49]

Which I have to admit I'm bummed about because it's been fun living a lot.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by path12

I don't know WHAT you are!

But I have a badge that says "Avatar".

[Blade6119]

this should be quite interesting

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Well if you're going to duke duke Alan T. Be bold. Win the game. Duke a necro.

Eh this is bad advice too just like the tanglewood advice to duke dubbs was...

You are basically risking losing the duke ability to duke someone who isnt bad.

That causes him to lose his ability. I personally wouldn't duke anyone tonight. Why risk it when its a bad vs bad vote here?

[Fouts]

I haven't lied all day. I'll take that back to the spirit world.

[Tyrith]

What's done is done. It's been fascinating however.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Eh this is bad advice too just like the tanglewood advice to duke dubbs was...

You are basically risking losing the duke ability to duke someone who isnt bad.

That causes him to lose his ability. I personally wouldn't duke anyone tonight. Why risk it when its a bad vs bad vote here?

That's the thing. It's a good vs good vote, and that is what the duke role was made for.

[kingfc22]

And the wait begins....What is fouts? Who is lathum? Will path use his dukeness?

Stay tuned for an all new episode of WW. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So if all goes according to plan I will be dead in the morning.

I dont understand why they would go after you? Especially if you have a scarab to protect yourself. I honestly am thinking they will target me tonight. They tried very hard today to put a shadow on me even though I have done nothing but try to bring in one bad guy after another. I am under the impression they want me dead badly.

[Barkeep49]

Because I know my role and you do not Alan.

[Fouts]

I don't know path as a player enough to know if he has the cajones to make a move. Most people will just sit back and do nothing. I remember this one game where somebody used the duke role at the start and we won the game in 3 days. It's fun to see that happen.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Because I know my role and you do not Alan.

And now I'm confused.

[Tyrith]

I think we should limit the discussion on targets until after night actions are in...so a day in a half. Long time, but we can't give free info.

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Eh this is bad advice too just like the tanglewood advice to duke dubbs was...

You are basically risking losing the duke ability to duke someone who isnt bad.

That causes him to lose his ability. I personally wouldn't duke anyone tonight. Why risk it when its a bad vs bad vote here?

1. Bad vs Bad in this situation makes next to zero sense

If both Lathum and Fouts were bad then why the hell didn't the necros try and manuver the vote away from them? Why did lathum stick up for Fouts in the first place knowing he would be exposed as a necro pretty much immediatley?

2. Therefore, if you aren't going to use the duke today, when the hell are you going to use it?

The high vote getters will always have several players claiming 'they are suspicious so why bother duking'? That is why they get the highest votes!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

I don't know path as a player enough to know if he has the cajones to make a move. Most people will just sit back and do nothing. I remember this one game where somebody used the duke role at the start and we won the game in 3 days. It's fun to see that happen.

It was illinifan, but to be fair we tried to lynch him on day one so we forced his hand and he got luckier then god.

[Tyrith]

Brothers? With cronin perhaps?

[Tyrith]

dola, Nevermind, open roles, me = m0r0n

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

1. Bad vs Bad in this situation makes next to zero sense

If both Lathum and Fouts were bad then why the hell didn't the necros try and manuver the vote away from them? Why did lathum stick up for Fouts in the first place knowing he would be exposed as a necro pretty much immediatley?

2. Therefore, if you aren't going to use the duke today, when the hell are you going to use it?

The high vote getters will always have several players claiming 'they are suspicious so why bother duking'? That is why they get the highest votes!

I wasnt saying duking was a bad thing. I was saying duking Dubbs like you suggested who has a very likely possibility of being good and just misled due to someone messing with his vision. It would then lose the duke ability for path.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Fouts

I don't know path as a player enough to know if he has the cajones to make a move. Most people will just sit back and do nothing. I remember this one game where somebody used the duke role at the start and we won the game in 3 days. It's fun to see that happen.

Tossing out the manhood challenge. I like that. I look forward to having an entire game with you sometime.

[kingfc22]

I would agree with tyrith. I think we should wait on posting any more information until hoops gives us the day action recap.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

1. Bad vs Bad in this situation makes next to zero sense

If both Lathum and Fouts were bad then why the hell didn't the necros try and manuver the vote away from them? Why did lathum stick up for Fouts in the first place knowing he would be exposed as a necro pretty much immediatley?

2. Therefore, if you aren't going to use the duke today, when the hell are you going to use it?

The high vote getters will always have several players claiming 'they are suspicious so why bother duking'? That is why they get the highest votes!

I think the end of the day the qestion wasn't as much "Is Lathum bad?" as much "Is Lathum the Prophecy and, if so, why the crap is blade dead?"

Side note, in the last three games it seems like lathum has gone BG-Alpha-either prophecy or head necro, which is an incredible string of important roles.