*World Cup Game Discussion Thread* (SPOILERS) - Page 53

ISiddiqui · 06-25-2006, 07:00 PM

A vast majority of the cards came during the mid 2nd half. He should have clamped down on them in the first half as they were just starting to get chippy.

And how many cards did he give 'early on'? Only 4 out of the 16 were in the 1st half.

Btw, it isn't just the commentators:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section...rldcup&cc=5901

HEADLINE: Russian ref loses it

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2006, 07:16 PM

see Sepp Blatter's reaction

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...372559&cc=5901

Desnudo · 06-25-2006, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink was selected in this squad eclusively so we could play this tactic in the last 10 mins of a game where we would be trailing by a goal or less. Before the tournament everybody in the country was all over this amazing choice of him over Roy Makaay (Bayern Munchen stud) and Klaas Jan Huntelaar (who scored 50 goals in competitive games in 2005/2006).

My honest opinion: that's not how we should play, and I know Makaay, Huntelaar and Van Nistelrooij all can play that role too.

If they want to fire him, I think a job may be opening up in the US. It would make his choice easy. You have Johnson and, well Johnson.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-25-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

A vast majority of the cards came during the mid 2nd half. He should have clamped down on them in the first half as they were just starting to get chippy.

And how many cards did he give 'early on'? Only 4 out of the 16 were in the 1st half.

Btw, it isn't just the commentators:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section...rldcup&cc=5901

HEADLINE: Russian ref loses it

5 cards, one of them red in the first half. What? You wanted more cards than that? 2 in the first 8 minutes, and 4 in the first 30 minutes. Look, I thought he reffed poorly, but the way other games have been reffed, I'm sure we would have seen almost as many cards as that from some other refs. I just frankly don't see how you can say he didn't clamp down on the chippy stuff and let it get out of hand. It's the new FIFA directive that's out of hand. Blatter's a moron anyways. The guy actually says the U.S. game was well officiated but this one not. Whatever.

ISiddiqui · 06-25-2006, 09:13 PM

Compared to this game, the US-Italy game probably was well officiated. This one was just horrid.

When you see the amount of cards in the second half and all the shoving and fighting going on, there is no other conclusion that the ref lost control. Portugal and the Netherlands didn't play anything close to this in previous games.

Especially when there really weren't that many total fouls in the game. When about half of your foul calls are cards then you are doing something wrong.

And when all around (Soccernet, BBC, etc.) people are saying the ref blew it, I think there may be something to that.

I do think, however, that if Boulahrouz got a straight red (which he probably should have), you wouldn't have seen the mess that came afterwards.

ZXTT · 06-25-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

5 cards, one of them red in the first half. What? You wanted more cards than that? 2 in the first 8 minutes, and 4 in the first 30 minutes. Look, I thought he reffed poorly, but the way other games have been reffed, I'm sure we would have seen almost as many cards as that from some other refs. I just frankly don't see how you can say he didn't clamp down on the chippy stuff and let it get out of hand. It's the new FIFA directive that's out of hand. Blatter's a moron anyways. The guy actually says the U.S. game was well officiated but this one not. Whatever.

I thought there were fewer dubious decisions (Maniche yellow, for ex.) than in most of the other games. The players basically lost their heads - what's the ref supposed to do? He could have given more cards - remember the studs to the shoulder of Robben in the box? That could have been a penaly too. What about Figo's head butt. Yeah, not like it really would hurt anyone, but 90% of the time, that's a straight red. Costinha also got an extra chance when on yellow.

chinaski · 06-25-2006, 10:07 PM

this thread needs this... the goalie kick save around 1:40 is amazing

Ajaxab · 06-25-2006, 10:33 PM

I think the ref lost this one in the first two minutes of the game when he gave a yellow card to a Dutch player (Van Bommel I think). That let the players know that he wasn't going to tolerate anything, which in turn led to more attempts at drawing yellow cards (more diving), which in turn led to more complaining and frustration from both teams. That frustration escalated to dirty play from two irritated squads. I just can't see how a ref can be so reactionary so early in a match unless it is an unarguable yellow.

I was sad to see the Dutch go out, but the way they played the last 10 minutes just didn't seem like the Dutch teams I have grown to love from the '98 World Cup and the 6-1 demolition job against Yugoslavia at Euro 2000.

MJ4H · 06-25-2006, 10:35 PM

The infamous scorpion save. Truly a beaut.

Critch · 06-25-2006, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

I think the ref lost this one in the first two minutes of the game when he gave a yellow card to a Dutch player (Van Bommel I think). That let the players know that he wasn't going to tolerate anything, which in turn led to more attempts at drawing yellow cards (more diving), which in turn led to more complaining and frustration from both teams. That frustration escalated to dirty play from two irritated squads. I just can't see how a ref can be so reactionary so early in a match unless it is an unarguable yellow.

Van Bommel's was an unarguable yellow, it was a bad, cynical tackle. Ronaldo had beat him and was running away from him, so he slid into the back of his heels without coming anywhere near the ball.

At halftime I thought the ref had done pretty well, he'd been less card happy than some of the others so far. Van Bommel and Boulahrouz both deserved their yellows, Costinha deserved both of his, wasn't sure about Maniche's. It wasn't til the 2nd half where the game slipped away from the ref, and I'd put most of the blame for that on the players, not the ref.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-25-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajaxab

I think the ref lost this one in the first two minutes of the game when he gave a yellow card to a Dutch player (Van Bommel I think). That let the players know that he wasn't going to tolerate anything, which in turn led to more attempts at drawing yellow cards (more diving),

This makes no sense. He lost control of a chippy game because he GAVE a yellow card early on? What? It's when you don't give cards and then guys starting kicking shins, ankles, throwing elbows, because they no they're not going to get a card. By showing it early, the ref was signalling the players that they were not going to get away with anything. Then the players just got stupid after that.

ZXTT · 06-25-2006, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Critch

Van Bommel's was an unarguable yellow, it was a bad, cynical tackle. Ronaldo had beat him and was running away from him, so he slid into the back of his heels without coming anywhere near the ball.

I think that's one reason why the card to foul ratio was high - intentional (ie. professional) fouls are supposed to receive cards - and I saw a lot of them in this game.

Combine that with two teams that like to dive/act, and this is what you get. I think the Dutch did more diving/acting today, perhaps because they were down and attacking most of the game. And for the record, I wanted the Dutch to win. They're third on my cheering list, after the U.S. and England.

I think the reffing has been terrible in the tournament and most games didn't warrant more than about 3 cards. This game was played very cynically, and having someone like Blatter make comments about the ref, when refs have made a hash of easier games, is too much, in my view. (And that was probably too many commas for one sentence!).

MrBug708 · 06-25-2006, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski

this thread needs this... the goalie kick save around 1:40 is amazing

He plays in Mexico and is known for doing that. He's not Mexican though, but like Honduran? Or something like that?

The most amazing goal is the one around 112, the angle is nearly impossible. Who kicked that?

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-25-2006, 11:46 PM

That's Hegita(sp). Columbian. He's retired. He was also famous for playing as a sweeper out to about 40-50 yards even when he was keeper. Then in the '90 World Cup, sweeping as the last man back, he actually tried to deke Roger Milla of Cameroon. Of course, Milla stripped the ball from him and proceeded to dribble by himself on goal for 40 yards to score. Classic.

Vinatieri for Prez · 06-26-2006, 12:00 AM

Here's the Milla goal. His name is Higuita. Almost got it right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWMx...search=higuita

BreizhManu · 06-26-2006, 12:14 AM

That made me look for a famous goal in the french championship, the one scored by Francis llacer against Caen in 94-95, and I found it (poor quality sadly) :

hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/6803189/Francis_Llacer__PSG__vs_Caen-_reprise_de_vol_e_incroyable_-_94-95.mpg.html

also the goal scored by okocha in his first game with psg :

hxxp://hunderhsound1.free.fr/Okocha%20-%20but%20contre%20Bordeaux.wmv

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2006, 12:15 AM

Rene Higuita

cartman · 06-26-2006, 02:10 AM

Here is a link to a 22 minute show of 50 incredible goals set to music.

There are a bunch of beauts in there, like Beckham's strike from midfield, a couple of a young Ronaldo back in his Barcelona days, two nice ones from Roberto Carlos, one a zero angle goal, and the other a free kick that curves one way around the wall, and then curves back the other way to sneak inside the post. All in all, a bunch of truly amazing shots!

hxxp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5358629040838888300

edit: for those wondering what I'm doing up at this hour, I've got a con call in a bit with some folks in Italy. Hopefully it won't last too long, and I can get a bit more sleep in.

TazFTW · 06-26-2006, 02:50 AM

A Marcello Balboa goal?

Not surprised to see that it was Roberto Carlos with the zero angle goal.

Bek · 06-26-2006, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

He plays in Mexico and is known for doing that. He's not Mexican though, but like Honduran? Or something like that?

The most amazing goal is the one around 112, the angle is nearly impossible. Who kicked that?

SICK....that keeper save was off the wall...a must see for aspiring keepers out there

Narcizo · 06-26-2006, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

see Sepp Blatter's reaction

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...372559&cc=5901

Conclusive proof that Blatter is an absolute cunt. The referee's doing what you told him to do. If anything, by the standards set out by FIFA, he should have given more red cards - Figo for a headbutt, Maniche for a second yellow, the Dutch bloke who patently only wanted to knock Ronaldo out of the game from the outset (should have been a red).

It's Blatter's fault for introducing a bunch of rules to be implemented in the tournament. (How about introducing them at the start of the season instead of using the World Cup as a test case)? And then, when he realises that it's made the game a bit of a joke, he turns on the referees in public and blames them. He's now made the referees position in the tournament untenable. What are they supposed to do? Follow the FIFA rules and be publically castigated for it or not follow them and get a dressing down in private.

Total. Fucking. Tool.

That said there's nothing like a needle match like that. Van Basten must be hoping that it all shifts attention from his baffling decision to stick with Kuyt for 90 minutes.

Narcizo · 06-26-2006, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

If I was FIFA, I would retrospectivlely punish dives and playacting, and #1 directive: anybody who waves an imaginary card at the referee immediately gets a real one in return.

Cheating is becoming a big problem and should be pushed: two slightly mistimed tackles should not mean game over (as long as the player was trying to play the ball and neither was dangerous - you should not be sent off for being skinned twice by a more skilful player if you are genuinely trying to tackle him)

Couldn't agree more with all of this. Particularly the "yellow card for asking for one" bit which is one of the most annoying things I've seen.

MIJB#19 · 06-26-2006, 06:19 AM

Dutch media decided to focus on:
* total failure of our own team to play football
* the lack of 'fair play' during the game, most notable Figo and Van Bommel
* a failing referee
* will Van der Sar retire from the national team or not?
* why did Maniche play for Dinamo Moskou?

Nothing about the strikers saga though.

Joe · 06-26-2006, 06:54 AM

Figo is a bitch

Mac Howard · 06-26-2006, 08:07 AM

I can't help but feel that the increase in diving and feigning injury partly comes from the flood of yellow/red cards. Doing it to get a freekick is one level of motivation but getting an opposition player a yellow, second yellow or red card is another.

Still, the juicy prospect of an England-Australia Final is getting closer

Huckleberry · 06-26-2006, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bek

SICK....that keeper save was off the wall...a must see for aspiring keepers out there

Maybe as a "how not to" video or a "stupid shit that can get you in trouble" lesson.

MIJB#19 · 06-26-2006, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George W Bush

Figo is a bitch

Sure, but we knew that going into the game. Elbow or not, intentional or not, you know Figo will try to be as close to Boulahrouz as possible to give him a second yellow card in the 11 vs 10 situation. Our team didn't act accordingly to put Ooijer on Figo or replace Boularouz with Heitinga or Jaliens. The Van Bommel substituation later on made more sense, because he was going to get sent off too in that game. But at the same time, it was the moment we threw the towel about the fact that we can't score goals.

Anyway, Italy-Australia today, I wonder whether the 4 red cards and 16 yellow cards records will be on the line. And I'm going to jinx the Swiss-Ukraine game now by predicting it will be dull 0-0 ending in penalties.

Crapshoot · 06-26-2006, 08:26 AM

Btw,
great quote from Scolari - if the English media hadn't fucked it up, they could have had him as their next coach.

Quote:

However, Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari defended Figo.

He said: "Jesus said we should turn the other cheek. Unfortunately, Figo is not Jesus Christ."

Groundhog · 06-26-2006, 09:30 AM

Biggest game in Australian soccer history is just 30 mins away... Go Aussies!

cartman · 06-26-2006, 10:24 AM

The Aussies certainly don't seem to be awed by the Italians. They are playing well.

Cringer · 06-26-2006, 10:38 AM

Solid game so far, IMO. Aussie's are playing strong, hope they can pull off the win.

Groundhog · 06-26-2006, 10:50 AM

Yeah, Schwarzer's goalie work has made my mind boggle even further as to Kalac's selection against Croatia. Schwarzer is solid as a rock.

We need to keep our heads in the game and not conceed an early goal ala Brazil. We can take this game.

Cringer · 06-26-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Yeah, Schwarzer's goalie work has made my mind boggle even further as to Kalac's selection against Croatia. Schwarzer is solid as a rock.

We need to keep our heads in the game and not conceed an early goal ala Brazil. We can take this game.

What, you not with the 10,000-15,000 people watching out in the streets tonight?

Celeval · 06-26-2006, 11:07 AM

Yikes!

ISiddiqui · 06-26-2006, 11:08 AM

WOW! Controversial red card on Italy's Materazzi!

Katon · 06-26-2006, 11:08 AM

FIFA's directive on lunges strikes again!

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:09 AM

Not sure why that was a red card. Yellow, yes. Now we'll have to listen to more Italian bellyaching about ref bias.

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:17 AM

The liberal distribution of cards continues.

Critch · 06-26-2006, 11:35 AM

I preferred the old days when you used to see a red card every now and then, not one per half. FIFA seems to be trying to turn soccer into a non-contact sport, I'll be happy when the Leagues start up again so the referees will be working from their own FA directives and be able to ignore FIFA again.

Other than that, it's a boring game. You know a game is boring when you start thinking about whether or not Totti is hot.

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:37 AM

The only way the Socceroos are going to score is off of a set piece. Italy's defense is just too organized for them to find a weak spot on a slow build up.

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:43 AM

OH! Almost a heartbreaker for the Aussies there. That was Italy's best chance to score so far.

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:46 AM

So close on the bicycle kick for Austrailia! He just missed striking that ball!

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:49 AM

Stupid foul by the Aussie there.

VPI97 · 06-26-2006, 11:50 AM

Oh shit.

kingfc22 · 06-26-2006, 11:51 AM

Are you kidding me. This WC is such a joke.

cartman · 06-26-2006, 11:51 AM

If the defender wouldn't have slid in, we'd be going to OT.

VPI97 · 06-26-2006, 11:51 AM

Celeval · 06-26-2006, 11:52 AM

Cringer · 06-26-2006, 11:52 AM

I hate the Italian team. That sucked.

Galaxy · 06-26-2006, 11:52 AM

Was that a good call?

06-25-2006, 07:00 PM	#2601
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	A vast majority of the cards came during the mid 2nd half. He should have clamped down on them in the first half as they were just starting to get chippy. And how many cards did he give 'early on'? Only 4 out of the 16 were in the 1st half. Btw, it isn't just the commentators: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/section...rldcup&cc=5901 HEADLINE: Russian ref loses it __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-25-2006, 09:13 PM	#2605
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Compared to this game, the US-Italy game probably was well officiated. This one was just horrid. When you see the amount of cards in the second half and all the shoving and fighting going on, there is no other conclusion that the ref lost control. Portugal and the Netherlands didn't play anything close to this in previous games. Especially when there really weren't that many total fouls in the game. When about half of your foul calls are cards then you are doing something wrong. And when all around (Soccernet, BBC, etc.) people are saying the ref blew it, I think there may be something to that. I do think, however, that if Boulahrouz got a straight red (which he probably should have), you wouldn't have seen the mess that came afterwards. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 06-25-2006 at 09:23 PM.

06-25-2006, 10:07 PM	#2607
chinaski College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon	this thread needs this... the goalie kick save around 1:40 is amazing __________________ CCFL - Buffalo Bills IHOF - Houston Mustangs GML - San Diego

06-25-2006, 11:46 PM	#2614
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	That's Hegita(sp). Columbian. He's retired. He was also famous for playing as a sweeper out to about 40-50 yards even when he was keeper. Then in the '90 World Cup, sweeping as the last man back, he actually tried to deke Roger Milla of Cameroon. Of course, Milla stripped the ball from him and proceeded to dribble by himself on goal for 40 yards to score. Classic. Last edited by Vinatieri for Prez : 06-25-2006 at 11:47 PM.

06-26-2006, 02:10 AM	#2618
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Here is a link to a 22 minute show of 50 incredible goals set to music. There are a bunch of beauts in there, like Beckham's strike from midfield, a couple of a young Ronaldo back in his Barcelona days, two nice ones from Roberto Carlos, one a zero angle goal, and the other a free kick that curves one way around the wall, and then curves back the other way to sneak inside the post. All in all, a bunch of truly amazing shots! hxxp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5358629040838888300 edit: for those wondering what I'm doing up at this hour, I've got a con call in a bit with some folks in Italy. Hopefully it won't last too long, and I can get a bit more sleep in. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 06-26-2006 at 02:11 AM.

06-25-2006, 07:16 PM	#2602
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	see Sepp Blatter's reaction http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...372559&cc=5901

06-25-2006, 10:33 PM	#2608
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	I think the ref lost this one in the first two minutes of the game when he gave a yellow card to a Dutch player (Van Bommel I think). That let the players know that he wasn't going to tolerate anything, which in turn led to more attempts at drawing yellow cards (more diving), which in turn led to more complaining and frustration from both teams. That frustration escalated to dirty play from two irritated squads. I just can't see how a ref can be so reactionary so early in a match unless it is an unarguable yellow. I was sad to see the Dutch go out, but the way they played the last 10 minutes just didn't seem like the Dutch teams I have grown to love from the '98 World Cup and the 6-1 demolition job against Yugoslavia at Euro 2000.

06-25-2006, 10:35 PM	#2609
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	The infamous scorpion save. Truly a beaut.

06-26-2006, 12:00 AM	#2615
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Here's the Milla goal. His name is Higuita. Almost got it right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWMx...search=higuita

06-26-2006, 12:14 AM	#2616
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	That made me look for a famous goal in the french championship, the one scored by Francis llacer against Caen in 94-95, and I found it (poor quality sadly) : hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/6803189/Francis_Llacer__PSG__vs_Caen-_reprise_de_vol_e_incroyable_-_94-95.mpg.html also the goal scored by okocha in his first game with psg : hxxp://hunderhsound1.free.fr/Okocha%20-%20but%20contre%20Bordeaux.wmv

06-26-2006, 12:15 AM	#2617
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Rene Higuita

06-26-2006, 02:50 AM	#2619
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	A Marcello Balboa goal? Not surprised to see that it was Roberto Carlos with the zero angle goal. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

06-26-2006, 06:19 AM	#2623
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Dutch media decided to focus on: * total failure of our own team to play football * the lack of 'fair play' during the game, most notable Figo and Van Bommel * a failing referee * will Van der Sar retire from the national team or not? * why did Maniche play for Dinamo Moskou? Nothing about the strikers saga though. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

06-26-2006, 06:54 AM	#2624
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	Figo is a bitch

06-26-2006, 08:07 AM	#2625
Mac Howard Sick as a Parrot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Surfers Paradise, Australia	I can't help but feel that the increase in diving and feigning injury partly comes from the flood of yellow/red cards. Doing it to get a freekick is one level of motivation but getting an opposition player a yellow, second yellow or red card is another. Still, the juicy prospect of an England-Australia Final is getting closer __________________ Mac Howard - a Pom in Paradise Last edited by Mac Howard : 06-26-2006 at 08:11 AM.

06-26-2006, 09:30 AM	#2629
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Biggest game in Australian soccer history is just 30 mins away... Go Aussies! __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-26-2006, 10:24 AM	#2630
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The Aussies certainly don't seem to be awed by the Italians. They are playing well. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 10:38 AM	#2631
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Solid game so far, IMO. Aussie's are playing strong, hope they can pull off the win. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

06-26-2006, 10:50 AM	#2632
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Yeah, Schwarzer's goalie work has made my mind boggle even further as to Kalac's selection against Croatia. Schwarzer is solid as a rock. We need to keep our heads in the game and not conceed an early goal ala Brazil. We can take this game. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-26-2006, 11:07 AM	#2634
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Yikes!

06-26-2006, 11:08 AM	#2635
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	WOW! Controversial red card on Italy's Materazzi! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-26-2006, 11:08 AM	#2636
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	FIFA's directive on lunges strikes again!

06-26-2006, 11:09 AM	#2637
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Not sure why that was a red card. Yellow, yes. Now we'll have to listen to more Italian bellyaching about ref bias. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:17 AM	#2638
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The liberal distribution of cards continues. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:35 AM	#2639
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I preferred the old days when you used to see a red card every now and then, not one per half. FIFA seems to be trying to turn soccer into a non-contact sport, I'll be happy when the Leagues start up again so the referees will be working from their own FA directives and be able to ignore FIFA again. Other than that, it's a boring game. You know a game is boring when you start thinking about whether or not Totti is hot.

06-26-2006, 11:37 AM	#2640
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The only way the Socceroos are going to score is off of a set piece. Italy's defense is just too organized for them to find a weak spot on a slow build up. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:43 AM	#2641
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	OH! Almost a heartbreaker for the Aussies there. That was Italy's best chance to score so far. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:46 AM	#2642
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	So close on the bicycle kick for Austrailia! He just missed striking that ball! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:49 AM	#2643
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Stupid foul by the Aussie there. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:50 AM	#2644
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Oh shit. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

06-26-2006, 11:51 AM	#2645
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Are you kidding me. This WC is such a joke. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-26-2006, 11:51 AM	#2646
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	If the defender wouldn't have slid in, we'd be going to OT. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

06-26-2006, 11:51 AM	#2647
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Damn __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

06-26-2006, 11:52 AM	#2648
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Ugh.

06-26-2006, 11:52 AM	#2649
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I hate the Italian team. That sucked. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!