06-23-2006, 08:22 PM | #2551 | |
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Even if fouts turns up as an avatar. I am more inclined to believe that you are the prophecy and fouts was only designed to protect you. As far as dubb goes, he either lied hoping to force your hand or his scan was messed with.
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Thanks, but I don't think I was successful. In fact, I think I have failed. There are reasons to vote elsewhere, but I cannot get anyone to listen.
Also, the only evidence I have seen is a scan from dubb, and claim by lathum to have summoned me, and being told I am the Avatar. Everything else today has been speculation. |
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Also, I'm fairly certain that the prophecy is the one that killed our seer and it just happened to occur on the same day that you and Blade were going back and forth.
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06-23-2006, 08:25 PM | #2554 |
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BTW, if Lathum is anything else than the mystic, I will be shocked.
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06-23-2006, 08:28 PM | #2555 | |
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if this is true....all the MORE reason he should say so with you alive!!!! he could be protected by you for 3 nights, then the EG, and the enchanter will get another scarab into the game before you die....he could be protected for the next 5 nights without a care in the world!! |
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06-23-2006, 08:28 PM | #2556 | |
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06-23-2006, 08:28 PM | #2557 |
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And Lathum hasn't told me his role, just from my observations. Either way, today has been a waste, if I don't mention that these people seem to be working together - Alan T, saldana, Tyrith, and possible Anxiety.
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06-23-2006, 08:28 PM | #2558 |
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So the more I think about it the more I think path should hold off on his tie breaker. I think the risk/reward for using that is quite low here.
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06-23-2006, 08:30 PM | #2559 | |
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thats cause we're all egyptians!!!! |
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06-23-2006, 08:30 PM | #2560 | |
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Like we could ever believe him now... |
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06-23-2006, 08:30 PM | #2561 |
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did tangle vote yet?
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just realized hoops said its gonna be a few hours until he posts the results...that sucks.
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06-23-2006, 08:31 PM | #2563 | |
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That's if he is playing poker. Let's just hope for a bad beat this one time.
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06-23-2006, 08:31 PM | #2564 | |
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you're right, we wouldnt, and if he does show up as the mystic, i will have to think of this as one of the worst plays ever. (sorry lathum) |
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06-23-2006, 08:31 PM | #2565 | |
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And the reveal is going to be quite a bit from now. |
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06-23-2006, 08:32 PM | #2566 | |
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06-23-2006, 08:33 PM | #2567 | |
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06-23-2006, 08:34 PM | #2568 |
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Fouts: Brothers are neutral but that does not mean they aren't also Egyptian.
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06-23-2006, 08:34 PM | #2569 |
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This thread is going to be #2 all-time within the next hour or so.
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So let's say Fouts is killed and is indeed the avatar. What does that tell us?
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06-23-2006, 08:39 PM | #2571 |
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So right now I have it as 7-7-1 with vince voting for dubb and tangle having no vote.
Path would be the tiebreaker lynching lathum.
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06-23-2006, 08:39 PM | #2573 | |
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Why would Lathum and Fouts vote for Fouts?
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Okay possibilties, and general thought spewing:
Lathum is a necro, the necros summoned Fouts as a mummy, then he tries to defend him and get him not lynched. Seems a crazy move to make to me, why would he stick his neck out? Also, this would either cast significant doubt on Dubb as being a good guy, or perhaps the head necro cannot be veriefed by the soothsayer. Lathum is a necro, he knows that Fouts is not summoned by him. He defends Fouts thinking he'll look good when Fouts comes up as the Avatar. But then why throw in the reveal about his scavanger role? Dubb had cleared him as a normal villager, so I don't get why he would have done a fake reveal. This also places severe doubt over Dubb. Lathum is a scavanger and summoned Fouts. Then why did Dubb come up with a plain villager 'view'? And why is scavanger not in the rules? I will say that the possibility of Blade having started making an Avartar right away to me is not far fetched. If I got the mystic role, the first thing I would have done was ask Hoops if it requires consecutive days, and if not I would definitley burn one day on the first night. I can see the scenario where Blade went either avatar/avatar/bullet or avatar/bullet/avatar. I think the avatar gives the village a big advantage, more so than seeing a few people, so I would have gone for it fairly early That said, why is the scavanger role not in the rules and how come Dubb saw Lathum as a normal villager? Lathum is a normal villager and is just shitting us. This obviously makes no sense at all, but hey, you never know. To me in every scenario there is a lot of doubt placed over Dubb, I am not sure if I can 100% trust him anymore so for me he is out of the circle of turst, and by association SnDvls is also out. Of course, it could be that the necros are somehow messing with him or a device used or whatever, but it is enough for me to drop my confdence in him, we have no way of veryfiying anything he has said is true. Also, the scenario most plausible to me is either that Fouts is good, but Lathum is either bad or good, but then Fouts has stated that Lathum summoned him and that he is good, so presumabley they are working on the same side. I can't see any sense that Lathum as the head necro summoned an obvious looking bad guy and then stuck his neck out for him. A possibility I am willing to entertain is that Lathum is merely a generic necro and the head necro designated him to be the one to stick up for Fouts, on the basis that it was an acceptable risk to take. However, again the whole ting for m comes back to what the hell happened with Dubb's view? |
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Over/under on the number of posts in this thread, total: 4400.
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Fouts - Qwikshot (1887), SnDvls (1893), Chubby (1928), Schmidty (1937), Dubb (2213), Alan (2466), Lathum (2523), Fouts (2524) Dubb - Vince (2244) Lathum - Saldana (2267), Tyrith (2297), Anxiety(2343), Barkeep (2345), king (2358), path(2513) Not voted - Tanglewood |
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06-23-2006, 08:40 PM | #2577 | |
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So, does the Pharaoh lose his role if he doesn't lynch a necro? or just the duke ability? |
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Don't think I have his phone number handy, otherwise I'd call him and get you results when they come due. Pity.
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dubb unvoted fouts and voted lathum. post 2536
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There was enough talking INside the thread today that I don;t think there wa a need to do so elsewhere.
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Finally, somebody using their brain. Keep it simple. What is the simplest explanation? Why does everything have to think there is some elaborate plan? I was summoned by Lathum to protect the eqyptians. Pretty simple. |
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I have king's correction, too, and it's 7-7-1 with tangle left for me.
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Fouts: Why is Lathum more valuable to us then you? Obviously you believe it which is why your vote is on you. Help me understand.
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I think he loses his duke ability if he chooses to duke a nec. Not if he is the tiebreaker vote.
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I think it is clear that Fouts and Lathum are working together on the same side. I also think it is more likely that they are both good than they are both bad. When summoned, the overwhelming likelyhood was that Fouts would be lynched, so it makes no sense at all to me that Lathum goes out of his way to protect a bad guy, knowing full well he would be lynched the next day in response. Therefore, I am forced to conclude that they are both good, not necessarily that they are telling the truth about their roles, but that they are both good.
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Just the duke ability as I understand it.
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So here's the thing. I think Lathum is either the Prophecy or the Head Necro. If he's the Prophecy do we want to get rid of him? I worry about the ramifications, as we already got some nasty foreshadowing back before we lynched Bek.
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Because I believe he has more powers to find necros or help the village. I am a 3 day person who can only protect. The necros can just wait me out. And Lathum did not tell me to change my vote. This is a lynch where the eqyptians are going to lose, and I am the smallest loss. |
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Barkeep, what is the scenario where Lathum is the Head Necro, Fouts is working with him and claims to have been summoned by him, and Lathum is telling everyone that Fouts is good and we will see when he is lynched. I just can't see it at this moment. |
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[quote=tanglewood]I think it is clear that Fouts and Lathum are working together on the same side./quote]
That is clear. But I don't think they are on our side. I think Lathum is the prophecy and Fouts is his own personal bodyguard. If Fouts was supposed to protect us for the next 3 days, then why would Lathum and Fouts change their votes and both vote for Fouts within a minute of each other?
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If that's the case, seeing how the votes are stacking up, it makes no sense to lie about any role info at this point if they're good. It only makes sense if they're bad.
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fouts, your duty is to protect the egyptians, not just lathum, so why not vote for him?
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Not sure, if Lathum is the Prophecy maybe he wants to keep it quiet for now. |
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Because there is no Fouts without Lathum. |
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I am protecting an egyptian. |
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