The Trump Presidency – 2016

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Well, apparently Kanye got his quick shot of attention and can go back to his genius lair for the time being.

The country wasn't ready yet

[Ksyrup]

Hours after calling coronavirus a hoax, Chuck Woolery’s son tests positive for it. pic.twitter.com/8UdpDJ557C

— Hoodlum 🇺🇸 (@NotHoodlum) July 14, 2020

[Kodos]

Who knew Chuck Woolery was such an asshole? Or that he was even still alive?

[Ksyrup]

This isn't the first time he's said some stupid stuff, but it's been a while since I'd seen anything from him.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I just want Jones to run a pro-Alabama campaign. Maybe barnstorm the state with Saban, LOL.

Yeah going to be tough for Jones going up against a Alabama football coach, but I hope the Democrats don't just write it off as a loss. Tuberville is already a Trump butt licker and I think Jones can use that and the fact that Tuberville has no political experience what so ever and can show that in a debate.

Also I hope the "retiring from public life" speeches are very common in November. Glad Sessions is going out in disgrace.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Yeah going to be tough for Jones going up against a Alabama football coach

My point was Jones should subtly use that Tuberville coached Auburn, which is a decidedly less popular team in the state .

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

My point was Jones should subtly use that Tuberville coached Auburn, which is a decidedly less popular team in the state .

Anything that works

[bronconick]

Holy SHIT pic.twitter.com/SlztuxewtY

— 𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕖𝕝𝕪 𝕕𝕒𝕕 (@HaitianDvorce) July 15, 2020

Wasting no time

[Thomkal]

Oklahome Governor has tested positive for the virus. Gee I wonder if he was at that Trump rally?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I just want Jones to run a pro-Alabama campaign. Maybe barnstorm the state with Saban, LOL.

With Lou Saban?

SI

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Well, apparently Kanye got his quick shot of attention and can go back to his genius lair for the time being.

I can appreciate this

According to my calculations @kanyewest’s presidential aspirations lasted one full Scaramucci

— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) July 15, 2020

SI

[JPhillips]

Vandy weighs in:

While we appreciate the congrats on beating Tommy Tuberville, that Vanderbilt team won 7 games and went to a bowl game for the first time in 26 years and we do not appreciate the implication that this was somehow worse than the time he lost to UConn. https://t.co/00MySM33bu

— This is fine (@anchorofgold) July 15, 2020

[sterlingice]

I believe that's Vandy's SBNation site, for the record

SI

[Thomkal]

Saw an article today on CNN about how a Democratic group in Kansas has been paying for ads supporting Kris Kobach for Senate. They think Kobach would be the best opponent to the person running for the Dems there. Be interesting to see if it works (and yeah Kobach would for sure be the best chance for Dems to take the seat)

[albionmoonlight]

So on the social media front today: my liberal friends and family are posting variations of the COVID-19 death numbers and pointing out how they feel scared and helpless.

My conservative friends and family are posting photos of shelves of sold out Goya beans with some version of “suck it, Libtards!”

Fuckin 2020, man.

[GrantDawg]

The President comes to Atlanta to announce a big infrastructure project. What was it, you ask? To add a "trucks only" lane to one interstate between Atlanta-Macon. That, and they are going to cut back on environmental impact studies to speed the process of getting this one lane. Yay.
We need rapid rails. We need mass transit. We need to cut the number of vehicles on the road. Instead, we get one truck lane.

[Lathum]

Quite the breech on Twitter today.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/tech/...tes/index.html

[Ksyrup]

Last I saw, it's up to 5400+ transactions and $7.8M. If you wondered how we could be so stupid to find ourselves where we are in 2020, this just confirms your answer.

[Ksyrup]

Chuck Woolery suspended from Twitter for posting false information about CV. He''ll be back in 2 and 2.

[Lathum]

Apparently all verified accounts were shut down at one point.

What a strange world we live in.

[Qwikshot]

I didn't watch the whole infrastructure speech today, he was a bit livelier than the Rose Garden, but still pedaling a bunch of bullshit.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Apparently all verified accounts were shut down at one point.

What a strange world we live in.

Looks like Twitter got hacked

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/tech/...tes/index.html

[Ksyrup]

Nigerian Prince got a hold of all verified tweeters' accounts and a bunch of idiots sent him money.

[Qwikshot]

They should shut Twitter down.

[Ksyrup]

Verified Twitter still down but they can retweet so many are sending coded messages through retweets.

[Thomkal]

Brad Parscale out as Trump Campaign Manager. Guess they didn't like those empty seats in Tulsa after all.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Brad Parscale out as Trump Campaign Manager. Guess they didn't like those empty seats in Tulsa after all.

Can't wait to see who the replacement is, but holy shit, how bad of a look is this just over 3 months from E day?

Wonder if Parscale will start singing to the media now.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Can't wait to see who the replacement is, but holy shit, how bad of a look is this just over 3 months from E day?

Wonder if Parscale will start singing to the media now.

Bill Stepien has been announced as the new guy. Name is not familiar, but I'm sure he's as lovely as any other guy who's worked for Trump

I'm sure Parscale has an NDA.

[BYU 14]

Dola, just saw he was retained as a "senior advisor" so in other words keep him close to keep him quiet.

I can't wait for the fucking train wreck to derail once and for all.

[Lathum]

apparently the new guy was an advisor to Chris Christie. Should sit well with Kushner.

[JPhillips]

Stepien is the asshole that shut down the GW bridge to punish the mayor of Fort Lee.

[Lathum]

Fort Lee lane closure scandal - Wikipedia

[JPhillips]

Not sure I've ever seen a campaign that relies so much on the words of the opponent.

Omg pic.twitter.com/5fOEzQr0WQ

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 15, 2020

[Thomkal]

Lincoln Project out with a quick burn on Parscale. A Picture of him with the caption: Find Something New

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Stepien is the asshole that shut down the GW bridge to punish the mayor of Fort Lee.

Ah yes yet another example of "only Hire the best"

[stevew]

Bill Stepien has to be related to Ted Stepien? The guy who was such a shitty owner they named a rule after him?

[ISiddiqui]

Cause we all know how beloved Christie was when he left office as Governor of NJ. Let's make one of his people campaign manager!

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[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Bill Stepien has been announced as the new guy. Name is not familiar, but I'm sure he's as lovely as any other guy who's worked for Trump

Hopefully he's as competent as Ted Stepien was.

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Chuck Woolery suspended from Twitter for posting false information about CV. He''ll be back in 2 and 2.

I know it's easy to pile on the idiot du jour, but is there any reason I should've known who Chuck Woolery is? "Pre Pat Sajak Wheel of Fortune host" is something to lead with at a cocktail party, not sure why he'd be someone we're surprised is an idiot.

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

So on the social media front today: my liberal friends and family are posting variations of the COVID-19 death numbers and pointing out how they feel scared and helpless.

My conservative friends and family are posting photos of shelves of sold out Goya beans with some version of “suck it, Libtards!”

Fuckin 2020, man.

I know it makes me seem heartless, but what death numbers are people pointing to that make them feel scared and helpless? There have been 169 in a county of 2 million, 1600 in a state of 10.5 million. This is a bad thing, the trajectory isn't great, we need to/really really should be protecting elderly people, but if myself and 100 of my friends - let alone kids I coach - get it, chances are at most one of us would be hospitalized or in danger of dying.

Shurg, people's MMV, but if my chance of being hospitalized by something is under 1% I'd rather adapt around it instead of hiding and being quarantined.

(I've also had Goya beans like twice for burritos, remember using about 1/3 of the can, thinking they weren't great and deciding to throw the rest out instead of wrapping it up, but still saying hey, I got my money's worth!)

[RainMaker]

The beans thing is so weird and other countries have to be so confused.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I know it makes me seem heartless, but what death numbers are people pointing to that make them feel scared and helpless? There have been 169 in a county of 2 million, 1600 in a state of 10.5 million. This is a bad thing, the trajectory isn't great, we need to/really really should be protecting elderly people, but if myself and 100 of my friends - let alone kids I coach - get it, chances are at most one of us would be hospitalized or in danger of dying.

I don't know if the death numbers, per se, should be a driver there.

'cept.

The right is gleefully seizing on the narrative that "oh, we've probably had 4x the number of infections that's actually reported, which means the death totals aren't nearly as bad as the media is making them sound!"

While at the same time ignoring an unusually high spike in "pneumonia" deaths over the last three months, particularly at the start of the pandemic when we weren't testing shit. You don't get to claim underreported infections and handwave away underreported deaths.

We've got 25% of the planet's reported fatalities with 5% of the world's population; we're in the middle of a resurgence in infection rate; some states are seeing their hospital bed capacity zero out again; we've got half the population beating the tribalism drum for 'send the kids back to school,' ignoring that a significant percentage of the nation's teachers are going to falll into one at-risk category or another; it's not so much the death rate *right now* that's scary, it's that the perfect storm is gathering for something that makes the last three months look trivial by comparison.

And this thing is crazy infectious. With it spiraling out of control in Florida and putting serious strains on other population centers such as CA and TX, even if the death rate is low, the pure numbers have the potential to be soberingly high *because* of the infection rate.

Not that 130k reported dead (and, again, that's likely an undercount) isn't a gut punch, but we're one of the few developed countries in the world where the caseload is spiking. That 130k isn't the end, or even the middle. It's the beginning. And with Trump and Republicans pushing for in-person school reopenings, what you're talking about is children taking their natural germ factory status and turning it to 11. We were seeing near 3,000 deaths/day in April with everything shut down.

When the red states insist the kids go back to school and that the economy not shut down a second time? 3k/day is gonna be the floor, not the ceiling.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

The beans thing is so weird and other countries have to be so confused.

Not more than usual

[AlexB]

So is this Goya beans thing a sign that Trump believes he will not be re-elected, has abandoned any remaining pretence of not being corrupt, and is advertising that he is available, ready & willing to milk as much as he can out the last few months of his presidency?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Shurg, people's MMV, but if my chance of being hospitalized by something is under 1% I'd rather adapt around it instead of hiding and being quarantined.

A lot of people want to do that, but the right doesn't even want to adapt, They want to go on business as usual because adapting is too much work and indicates that King Trump may have been wrong and made some mistakes. We can't get them to even adapt to wear a mask to the grocery store. Can't have that.

Lets also not forget death rate isn't the be all end all. there are a lot of indications pointing to long term health complications. We haven't even scratched the surface. Look at a disease like Lymes and the problems it causes later in life.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I know it's easy to pile on the idiot du jour, but is there any reason I should've known who Chuck Woolery is? "Pre Pat Sajak Wheel of Fortune host" is something to lead with at a cocktail party, not sure why he'd be someone we're surprised is an idiot.

I'm old.

Seriously, I don't know anyone outside of my kids who doesn't know who Chuck Woolery is.

Funny enough, I had no clue he hosted Wheel of Fortune. He became famous for Love Connection - hence the "2 and 2" comment I made in another post. "We'll be back in 2 and 2" was his line going to commercial break.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm old.

Seriously, I don't know anyone outside of my kids who doesn't know who Chuck Woolery is.

Funny enough, I had no clue he hosted Wheel of Fortune. He became famous for Love Connection - hence the "2 and 2" comment I made in another post. "We'll be back in 2 and 2" was his line going to commercial break.

I didn't know the thing about Wheel of Fortune either. I remember him from Scrabble.

SI

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I know it makes me seem heartless, but what death numbers are people pointing to that make them feel scared and helpless? There have been 169 in a county of 2 million, 1600 in a state of 10.5 million. This is a bad thing, the trajectory isn't great, we need to/really really should be protecting elderly people, but if myself and 100 of my friends - let alone kids I coach - get it, chances are at most one of us would be hospitalized or in danger of dying.

Shurg, people's MMV, but if my chance of being hospitalized by something is under 1% I'd rather adapt around it instead of hiding and being quarantined.

(I've also had Goya beans like twice for burritos, remember using about 1/3 of the can, thinking they weren't great and deciding to throw the rest out instead of wrapping it up, but still saying hey, I got my money's worth!)

First, this is a liberal subset, and liberals tend to feeling scared the way that conservatives tend to feeling oppressed.

But in this instance, I think that there is some there there. The more we learn, the more we see that this virus does not fall into the "you either die or you're fine" group. There seems to be a lot of possible long term damage. See, e.g., COVID-19’s consequences for the heart – Harvard Gazette

The hopelessness comes, I think, from the realization that, as Sack notes, this isn't our peak. As case numbers rise, one of the two major political parties in the country is demanding that we don't continue to balance economics with safety, but that we simply declare ourselves "open" on the assumption that if the virus just watched enough cable news, it would understand that it should stop infecting people.

The President is either posing with cans of beans or actively trying to strip powers from the CDC b/c he wants more control over the numbers being reported.

My analogy: If you have a two-story house with an attached garage, and an outlet shorts out in the garage and starts a small electrical fire, you could say that there's not much to worry about inside the house at that point. But if, in response to the fire, you refuse to move the gas cans out of the way. And refuse to call the fire department. And decide to leave the door between the garage and the house open for "ventilation," and take all the smoke alarms down b/c "if we didn't have so many alarms, we wouldn't have so many fires," and then a bunch of people showed up insisting on their constitutional right to store old dry newspapers in your garage, then you might start to worry.

[Kodos]

Not to mention Bishop seems to regularly trivialize the fact that the virus has killed enough people in the U.S. to fill Michigan Stadium and then throw in another small school stadium on top. "I don't mean to sound heartless." Too late buddy.

[Ksyrup]

The other thing that's missing is the acknowledgement that if you and 100 of your friends get it, you (a) might not know it for awhile and (b) might infect people who are at an increased chance of hospitalization or death. I think this is the biggest issue with school openings - you have a lot of older teachers/administrators, not to mention family members, who could be drastically affected even if an 8 year old gets it and recovers quickly.

The theme in all this seems to be "IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YOU!" which goes not just to wearing a mask but the consequences of being infected.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Lincoln Project out with a quick burn on Parscale. A Picture of him with the caption: Find Something New

Knowing they are targeting their ads at an audience of 1. (though many of us appreciate their brilliance) The timing of Parscale being let go, citing disappointment in the Tulsa rally attendance, is suspiciously close to the Lincoln Project ad mocking the large number of empty seats in the arena there.

May be coincidence, but pretty sure the 'ads' are finding their target.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Knowing they are targeting their ads at an audience of 1. (though many of us appreciate their brilliance) The timing of Parscale being let go, citing disappointment in the Tulsa rally attendance, is suspiciously close to the Lincoln Project ad mocking the large number of empty seats in the arena there.

May be coincidence, but pretty sure the 'ads' are finding their target.

One story claimed Trump saw and was pissed about the Lincoln Project ad on Parscale getting rich off of Trump.