Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899

[DaddyTorgo]

same thing if we get a lynch in on one of jackal/autumn (and figure out the other's allegience) and then get a quick-vote on the other to wipe them down. at worst then we're 7-2

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

because if we condense the votes then we'll limit the wolves ability to get kills in hopefully, and the people left will be cleared?

How will that limit their ability to kill? I would guess they get one per lynch, it would seem to make WW sense that way.

[path12]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I like going for multiple lynches quickly since we should press our advantage some and big stack the wolves.

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Why? IF, and I say IF, there is a cunning involved in the trusted list this gives them a free place to hide.

EF, why are you jumping on Purdue about this? saldana brought it up a page and a half ago which is why we're seeing votes consolidate on Autumn.

I don't get why you seem to have a problem with it after Purdue votes.

[Barkeep49]

You're in my hands for a couple hours. I've been very unexpectedly slammed at work and am catching up here as best I can. If you have any questions/actions for me that haven't been addressed by hoops please resend now with a clear subject line and I will address it as soon as possible.

[DaddyTorgo]

hey BK - as of #2490

IS 1 - henry (2306)
Thom 2 - Brian (2408), ntn (2413)
Jack 2 - Autumn (2416), DT (2441)
Autumn 7 - path (2388), Jack (2445), EF (2469), sal (2474), king (2480), PB (2485), Schmidty (2488)

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE JACKAL
VOTE AUTUMN

[path12]

Heading home in a few minutes. I've got a couple things to take care of but should have a chance to check in at least.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

same thing if we get a lynch in on one of jackal/autumn (and figure out the other's allegience) and then get a quick-vote on the other to wipe them down. at worst then we're 7-2

You are still looking at the immediate. We still would have 4 more people from the list to go through. If we qo the quick route we have nothing to help make the final decision if there needs to be one.

Not going to say another word about it. If we do get down to the final one lynch for the game vote and lose because we have nothing to go off you can expect a very big "I TOLD YOU SO" post.

[EagleFan]

We're over 50%, that has to be a lynch by now I would imagine.

[DaddyTorgo]

we can take our time with the next one though - with jackal/autumn we have a fairly clear "one is good and one is bad" situation. there's already a significant concentration onto autumn, so we might as well get the lynch and see if we were correct or not. next time we can take our time

[DaddyTorgo]

dinnertime

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

we can take our time with the next one though - with jackal/autumn we have a fairly clear "one is good and one is bad" situation. there's already a significant concentration onto autumn, so we might as well get the lynch and see if we were correct or not. next time we can take our time

I don't see the fairly clear picture to be honest. Could be two wolves trying to play off each other to gan trust for one.

[EagleFan]

dola: I still think we should not have a run away but I don't think that it's clear cut one is bad and the other is good. I doubt that they are both good though. I think it's either one and one or both are bad.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by saldana

i agree because i cant see a value in lying about your character name...although i also dont see a value in lying about someone lying about their character name.

That's exactly right, there's no real point for me to come out with this if I'm a wolf. I didn't come out saying to lynch him, I came out suggesting him as the interrogation target, since DT asked for some advice ;-), since I figured that was something to go by. My read on Jackal has been gut, but looking back I wondered if that was meaningful, that he was on that villain list. I just really wanted to convince DT to take a closer look at him, since I thought he was our best target. I didn't expect to find him hiding.

[ISiddiqui]

Hmm... I literally have no clue who to vote for her. Both Autumn and Jackal have said some interesting things in the course of this game, setting up some alarms. Seems like there is a runaway on Autumn, but I don't necessarily want to be just jumping on. So, lemme think about this for a bit...

[ISiddiqui]

"vote for here", not her.

Sorry, was thinking of a girl .

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

to vote for her.

Ah, he's voting for saldana....


Sorry, the classics never die.

[Autumn]

I"ve been stuck with teh kids, and the couple times I tried posting was getting an error. Which sucks.

You guys are wasting a vote on someone who I think was mildly more trusted than Jackal, when it's Jackal who has the fishy info. Maybe he's not a wolf, I don't know, I just know what my role scan showed. It's pretty frustrating to find something that can help and getting gunned at like this. I'm not sure what Jackal did to make himself so much more trustworthy to you all.

[EagleFan]

unvote Autumn

[Autumn]

I'm not sure why DT isn't using the interrogation ability, which could save us a lynch of a villager at this point. It seems the vote's a foregone conclusion at this point though.

[Autumn]

Right now you've got what seems a clear dichotomy here where Jackal or I are bad. Why waste a lynch on it when you could be lynching someone else on the trust list. Get them, interrogate one of us and you get three names settled rather than just one or two.

[EagleFan]

vote DT


Need to try a hunch...

[Autumn]

The kids are supposed to be getting to bed, so I'm going to have to bail in a moment. Of course this game without deadlines ends up having them anyway, in a sense, and I'll probably miss this one if it hasn't passed already.

I'm not sure what else I can argue. DT knows my other scans have been accurate, and so if this one doesn't match what Jackal said that should be a big red flag. If the conspiracy is hiding behind fake roles being able to scan the rest of them would be helpful. I don't know that Jackal's supposed ability is as helpful as that but I'm imagining whatever it is isn't what it seems.

[Autumn]

Whoa what

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

vote DT


Need to try a hunch...

[EagleFan]

Why not try to make it intersting. If we lynch DT today and then go after the wolves. The damn wolves didn't do me a favor and off Jack. I have narrowed it down to him being the person that needs to die for me to get the major victory with the village. Do me a favor. Jack then list.

[Autumn]

I bet Jackal's tempted. lol, good luck with that EF

[EagleFan]

Hell, I will hand you the wolves if you do this for me. Going undercover put me in PM contact with a wolf an they now believe I am on their side. I just needed their help to win this thing since I have no killing power.

I had no intention on helping them win, just using them for my gain.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

vote DT


Need to try a hunch...

If you're good, why would you do this at this point, even IF by some insane reason DT is a work? What does it accomplish? No one is going to believe you, and is going to put a huge target on your head. Makes ZERO sense.

[EagleFan]

Join me PB, if you didn't lie to me about your additional win condition this could help you earn that too.

How great of a WW story would this be, talking out Jack in a '24' themed game and then going for the win.

Make this vote and the game becomes and instant classic.

[PurdueBrad]

My win condition is very different than yours EF, I simply have to be one of the last six players remaining. Killing DT, who I think has been valuable, is not really in my agenda right now.

And yeah, it would make this an instant classic.

[PurdueBrad]

Although, let me add, ballsy freaking move and one that I'm impressed you made at this point.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

If you're good, why would you do this at this point, even IF by some insane reason DT is a work? What does it accomplish? No one is going to believe you, and is going to put a huge target on your head. Makes ZERO sense.

Because I see the end of the game VERY close and am making my play now before it's too late. Especially if those lynches become back to back.

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE AUTUMN

[Schmidty]

This is stupid.

I want to vote EF so much right now. But why would he do this, other than to sacrifice himself to divert attention Autumn or Thomkal????

I'm not falling into this trap, and I hope you guys won't either.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

My win condition is very different than yours EF, I simply have to be one of the last six players remaining. Killing DT, who I think has been valuable, is not really in my agenda right now.

And yeah, it would make this an instant classic.

The game is almost over, killing DT extends it for a couple more people being eliminated. It gets you closer to 6.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Hell, I will hand you the wolves if you do this for me. Going undercover put me in PM contact with a wolf an they now believe I am on their side. I just needed their help to win this thing since I have no killing power.

I had no intention on helping them win, just using them for my gain.

funny cuz someone else told me the same damn thing, except they handed me a wolf.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Because I see the end of the game VERY close and am making my play now before it's too late. Especially if those lynches become back to back.

If you're right, then what does it matter anyway? No one is going to believe you and we're dead anyway. If we're dead like you're saying, then WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU NOT JUST TELL US WHY AS A LAST-DITCH EFFORT?

[Autumn]

Ugh, and I'm the one getting votes. Jackal's some crazed Balkan pretending not to be. Eaglefan is off his rocker, admits to not being aligned with the village and wants to kill Jack. But I'm the one you're going to lynch. Between this and getting killed as nightcrawler last game I'm about ready to take a break from werewolf.

[DaddyTorgo]

idk autumn - the more i think about it the more i can see your POV...hmm

[Autumn]

I've got to go now. Hopefully you guys will see the light and I'll be alive when I get back. DT, I'd gladly let you knock me over the head and drag me off for your interrogation. The quiet would be nice at this point, lol

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Why not try to make it intersting. If we lynch DT today and then go after the wolves. The damn wolves didn't do me a favor and off Jack. I have narrowed it down to him being the person that needs to die for me to get the major victory with the village. Do me a favor. Jack then list.

LOL - now the truth becomes clear.

Why would the cleared villagers in my CoT who I have worked with all game join you in lynching me just to gain a major victory for a non-aligned character?

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

funny cuz someone else told me the same damn thing, except they handed me a wolf.

Yeah, I handed you CR on day 2. How quickly you forget. I only got this win condition after Michelle died but had no idea how I could get it done. I wasn't about to make the play on you early before I earned the trust of my contact which was before I knew we could win.

As long as we win, I don't really care but if I can earn the major victory it would just be a little sweeter. This how classic this move would be. Lynch DT, I give you the final names (so they don't kill me before hand) and we win.

Why do you think I have been pushing the cunning scan. I know who the cunning is and he is solidly within the CoT based on what I have read.

[DaddyTorgo]

okay - check it out. we can lynch someone while they're being interrogated by me.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Yeah, I handed you CR on day 2. How quickly you forget. I only got this win condition after Michelle died but had no idea how I could get it done. I wasn't about to make the play on you early before I earned the trust of my contact which was before I knew we could win.

As long as we win, I don't really care but if I can earn the major victory it would just be a little sweeter. This how classic this move would be. Lynch DT, I give you the final names (so they don't kill me before hand) and we win.

Why do you think I have been pushing the cunning scan. I know who the cunning is and he is solidly within the CoT based on what I have read.

so the wolves just up and told you who all of them are? i find that hard to believe...that's pretty poor wolf-discipline...

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

LOL - now the truth becomes clear.

Why would the cleared villagers in my CoT who I have worked with all game join you in lynching me just to gain a major victory for a non-aligned character?

I doubt they will, but if I don't try I never find out.

Come on CoT (except for you cunning), haven't you been tired of being led around by the hand? Knock off the source of your frustration and then win the game without him.

[Schmidty]

I'm confused. Good job EF.

[DaddyTorgo]

so basically both EF and PB have said that they have earned the trust of wolves. EF on day 2 said CR was "questionable." PB on Friday sent me a PM saying that CR was a wolf and we needed to get him.

hmm...who to believe....

[DaddyTorgo]

in that instance how am i NOT going to believe the person who was more definitive?

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

so the wolves just up and told you who all of them are? i find that hard to believe...that's pretty poor wolf-discipline...

Nope, it took quite some time but they finally thought that I could be trusted. Pass was the only one that had it right when he went rogue to try to eliminate me. Sounds like there was some interesting PM's between the wolves when that happened based on what I was told. It was quite 24'ish.