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Great - above my expectations | 18 | 6.87% | |
Good - met most of my expectations | 66 | 25.19% | |
Average - so so, disappointed a little | 64 | 24.43% | |
Bad - sold us out | 101 | 38.55% | |
Trout - don't know yet | 13 | 4.96% | |
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04-15-2015, 03:29 PM | #25151 |
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04-15-2015, 03:53 PM | #25152 |
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The sense I get is that you have two types of Americans, notwithstanding what labels we put on ourselves.
People who follow politics, almost all of whom have chosen a side. People who don't follow politics. I can't think of anyone I know offhand who I say "follows politics" who is not pretty firmly in one camp or the other. |
04-15-2015, 06:00 PM | #25153 | |
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You don't know me any more than offhand, but now you can't say that any more. I was disturbed by the NYT op-ed. The implication was that you're a racist if you disagree with the president in any way. |
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04-16-2015, 04:16 AM | #25154 | |
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That's one way to read it. Another way is that reasonable people are running out of explanations for why the Republican establishment and Republican lawmakers (which is how the editorial identifies them, not "anyone who disagrees with the president") so completely, relentlessly and destructively opposes absolutely everything and anything Obama tries to do, even when it puts the country itself (i.e. default) at risk. Maybe you answer that, huh? |
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04-16-2015, 06:39 AM | #25155 | |
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I'll give you that there are largely three camps, Dem, GOP, and right leaning independent. The data from Pew shows that at a national level. You seem to fall firmly in the last group. But I'd bet that the basic idea of people highly engaged in politics being ideological is seen in most if not all democracies. The two seem to go hand in hand.
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04-16-2015, 01:43 PM | #25156 | |
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I think people tend to focus more on where they disagree than where they agree. I share some traits with the right, but I also share some traits with the left wing and many where I strongly dislike both wings. People also want to arrange people into groups. It must be genetic, and I'm not being sarcastic. I can think of evolutionary advantages to the strategy. I probably seem like a right-leaner right now because I disagree with Obama on practically everything he's done as a president. |
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04-23-2015, 09:56 AM | #25157 |
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I just stumbled on the Jade Helm 15/Walmart/Martial law conspiracy.
Wow.
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04-23-2015, 10:31 AM | #25158 |
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Seems like Conservative Republicans will try anything to prevent gay marriage from being legalized-including trying to stop the Supreme Court from even ruling on it:
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04-23-2015, 10:42 AM | #25159 |
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I'm sure that President Obama would sign that bill .
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04-23-2015, 10:56 AM | #25160 |
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04-23-2015, 11:44 AM | #25161 |
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They're only interested in passing bills that most people don't want.
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04-23-2015, 05:45 PM | #25162 | |
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I think the AG is a thankless job. When was the last time one of them really was loved?
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04-23-2015, 06:16 PM | #25163 |
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Does this turn into the next scandal?
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Company Log In - The New York Times Last edited by bob : 04-23-2015 at 06:16 PM. Reason: stupid link |
04-25-2015, 06:55 AM | #25164 | |
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04-26-2015, 12:31 AM | #25165 |
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Rumors are swirling that Michigan Governor Rick Snyder will be part of the Republican primaries.
I can see the wing of the party that wants a "sane" candidate getting behind this guy, however he's going to have to answer question about why he signed off on Obamacare medicaid expansion.
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04-26-2015, 11:21 AM | #25166 | |
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Or even Fox News doesn't buy into it. Fox’s Chris Wallace confronts ‘Clinton Cash’ author: ‘You don’t have a single piece of evidence’
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04-26-2015, 11:47 AM | #25167 |
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Then you have your answer.
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04-26-2015, 02:27 PM | #25168 |
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Obama brought out his 'anger translator' last night at the White House Correspondent's Dinner.
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04-27-2015, 09:23 AM | #25169 |
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KHALEESI IS COMING TO WESTEROS!!
That was hilarious. Sorry Joe, looks like Obama is backing Hillary .
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04-27-2015, 11:00 PM | #25170 |
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That was pretty good.
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04-28-2015, 06:35 PM | #25171 |
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Bernie Sanders is now set to enter the Democratic Primaries. This should make things interesting on the democratic side.
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04-28-2015, 07:03 PM | #25172 |
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Quite a ways from mayor of Burlington, VT.
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04-30-2015, 12:04 PM | #25173 |
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Jade Helm conspiracies are my new addiction.
The TX Governor has the state guard monitoring whether or not the military is planning a takeover of Texas and now Rand Paul says he'll look into the possibility of a military takeover.
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04-30-2015, 12:09 PM | #25174 | |
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Rand Paul is thinking of taking over Texas?
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04-30-2015, 12:14 PM | #25175 | |
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I'm all in with Bernie.
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04-30-2015, 12:24 PM | #25176 |
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I love Bernie, but he can't/won't win.
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05-01-2015, 08:48 PM | #25177 | |
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Good news if true.
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05-01-2015, 09:10 PM | #25178 |
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Bad news for Chris Christie
David Wildstein, Ex-Port Authority Director, Pleads Guilty « CBS New York
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I'm reasonably sure you get "thanked" by the millions of dollars you make once you leave the job. Quote:
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Broadly-speaking, I think it might be that "sanity" thing. Quote:
Why? I love Bernie, but he has no chance and is not going to change the conversation a lot on the Democratic side. |
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05-02-2015, 06:30 AM | #25180 | |
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Poor little fella...what's with all these ISIS leaders leaving the job so quickly? Good rogue terror state leadership is so hard to come by these days. Keep up the good work, US military. |
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05-02-2015, 06:38 AM | #25181 | |
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I'm not convinced that Christie ordered it or had specific knowledge beforehand. I can believe some over zealous underlings did it and maybe told Christie afterwards. Regardless, it doesn't seem Christie has any momentum now. The below link shows how much he has dropped since 2014 RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination Last edited by Edward64 : 05-02-2015 at 06:38 AM. |
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05-02-2015, 07:12 AM | #25182 | |
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Not sure the problems in the exchanges run by the state is a poor reflection of Obamacare itself but glad that the healthcare.gov system is stable/smooth enough where some states are considering dropping their own systems for it.
Almost half of Obamacare exchanges face financial struggles in the future - The Washington Post Quote:
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05-02-2015, 07:31 AM | #25183 |
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It makes great fiscal sense to roll these services up to the federal level. Makes the feds look good and cuts states payroll costs. A few people at the state level are gonna need to start looking for work elsewhere, but that's nothing that welfare and Obamacare can't handle till they get on their feet again.
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05-03-2015, 01:43 PM | #25184 |
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+1 to Dutch.
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05-03-2015, 02:24 PM | #25185 |
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It was slightly in jest, but given the way things are it does make sense.
Edit: To clarify my poke at putting people on welfare/Obamacare was in jest...enterprising and standardizing stuff that can be standardized was not in jest. Last edited by Dutch : 05-03-2015 at 02:34 PM. |
05-04-2015, 08:04 PM | #25186 |
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We'll get you to the dark side yet, Dutch.
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05-04-2015, 11:15 PM | #25187 | |
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I just don't see Carly as a contender. Wonder if she is positioning for VP consideration or 2020. Either way, just don't see a ground swell of support for her. Probably just ego.
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05-04-2015, 11:25 PM | #25188 |
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How does someone who ran a major company into the ground become a viable candidate for President? Like isn't there a successful female CEO that they could run instead?
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05-04-2015, 11:35 PM | #25189 | |
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Oh please that's socialist talk. The fact is she netted a $40 million golden parachute after ruining a company, unlike those thousands of schlubs that simply got laid off. That's proof that she was successful by Republican standards.
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05-05-2015, 07:42 AM | #25190 |
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Non-ironic headline: Pentagon Denies Plot to Take Over Texas : Political Wire
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For some reason the words "I'm not a dingo" are coming to mind...
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05-05-2015, 08:24 AM | #25192 |
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Of all the places the government actually wants, Texas is pretty low on the list.
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05-05-2015, 09:29 AM | #25193 |
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Wal-Mart has now clarified that it's stores are not military distribution and/or civilian detention centers connected to a military takeover.
I really can't get enough of Jade Helm conspiracies.
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Too bad Bubba Wheels isn't still around. I'd love to hear his take on JADE HELM.
I finally figured out what JADE HELM stand for: Just Another Dumb-ass Exercise Helping Expose Lunatic Minds
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Chuck Norris joins Ted Cruz (and others) in ‘Operaton Jade Helm’ conspiracy watch - The Washington Post
Chuck Norris knows this isn't a training operation because no amount of training will help you fight Chuck Norris.
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05-05-2015, 09:58 AM | #25196 |
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So what's the deal with all these mouth breathing fools? Am I missing something or do we now finally have a full blown Idiocracy state?
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05-05-2015, 10:10 AM | #25197 |
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When you have a sitting governor and senator riling up people, this will happen. As Jon Stewart said last night, newsflash Texas, the USA already does control your state (along with the other 49).
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05-05-2015, 10:50 AM | #25198 |
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I think I found a day better than Pumpy Day!
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05-05-2015, 10:58 AM | #25199 |
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Mike Huckabee is joining the republican circus.
Has a politician ever stepped away from politics for 8+ years and then won the presidency?
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05-05-2015, 11:06 AM | #25200 |
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I think the longest is Nixon, who was out of politics for 6 years.
Though Huckabee isn't even close to the politician Nixon was.
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