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Old 05-02-2006, 07:31 PM   #2451
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Well, if they have already won then we would not be going through the vote today.

And I see them manipulating votes by leaving them on two scientists while ignoring King - whose explanation for the discrepancy was very thin.

I get that you guys want to test me. But I also know that it is going to really hurt our cause here today. Not only do we not get a Thing, but the obvious extension is that we don't have a chance for the two-for-one. So I'm going to keep trying to convince the non-Things here to move the vote. Preferably to King, but at this point I guess I can't afford to be picky.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:31 PM   #2452
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Tru dat. Sorry Blade for going after you two votes running.
I have a horrid record this game, and i prob. would have voted myself if i was you. Lets just do our best to win from here on out.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:36 PM   #2453
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King, are you willing to comment further on your "role" before the deadline?

If you are playing as a scientist at this point in the game I would urge you to try and figure out who the Thing is, rather than just voting for me because I'm questioning posts that don't add up to me today.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:37 PM   #2454
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Well, if they have already won then we would not be going through the vote today.

And I see them manipulating votes by leaving them on two scientists while ignoring King - whose explanation for the discrepancy was very thin.

I get that you guys want to test me. But I also know that it is going to really hurt our cause here today. Not only do we not get a Thing, but the obvious extension is that we don't have a chance for the two-for-one. So I'm going to keep trying to convince the non-Things here to move the vote. Preferably to King, but at this point I guess I can't afford to be picky.

Okay then, make a clear case for King over either you or Barkeep in 30 seconds or less. GO!
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:38 PM   #2455
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Can I just quote an earlier post?
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:39 PM   #2456
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Can I just quote an earlier post?
15 seconds are up, 15 left...14...13
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:39 PM   #2457
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Posts 2360 + 2367 = my answer.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:41 PM   #2458
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Post #2360:
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Just to make sure I understand properly - you replaced Dubb, correct?

So how do the words simple and brilliant make their way into this role? I know that you are getting worked on here for something that was said by your predecessor (Dubb) but back on Day 1 he was adamant that the "brilliant" explanation that I offered up was not sufficient to show that I was a generic scientist. That I had ignored the word "simple" in bringing out the explanation to the masses.

I'll pull up post numbers if I need to do this, but this was a big enough topic of discussion early in the game that this should certainly jog people's memory.

UNVOTE MCKERNEY
VOTE KINGFC22

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Swaggs, because I think the window of days for Barkeep to have been converted, as compared to most of the other players in the game, is pretty small.

The fact that Blade checked out means that Coffee Warlord was clearing at least some villagers. The idea that makes the most sense for a turned seer is to clear villagers every day rather than get cute and slip in a Thing. I don't know if that is what they did, but I think CW is a smart enough player to realize this.

Once I make that inductive leap, I then think that there are only three nights for Barkeep to have been converted. And he has been under fire the entire time ... a position that I can definitely sympathize with. Finally, I've played enough games with Barkeep that I'm going to make some decisions based on gut instinct. Which tells me that at least as of yesterday he was playing as a scientist and not a Thing.

Now, if I'm not going to vote for myself or Barkeep, then where do I go with my vote? Well, how about to someone who has been applying pressure to two guys that are pretty high on my trust list for today (Cronin and Barkeep)? Who has been attacking him for several days now and vehemently trying to make the case that he is a Thing?

That said, I would rather go after someone who appears to have screwed up with a needless role reveal (Kingfc22) than follow my suspicion. Going for the 95% play instead of the 75% play. That is my explanation for the earlier vote as well as my current vote.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:42 PM   #2459
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If this was Day 1 or Day 2 I wouldn't sit here and fight this hard. But if the Things convert every night then we lose here.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:43 PM   #2460
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And you would rather us vote king...if we do, we lose here...
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:46 PM   #2461
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Blade, I'm completely unclear on why you think King is not a Thing. Partly because you won't post your reasons for thinking this.

I know you aren't a Thing today, Blade. Which is part of what makes this frustrating ... I don't think the Things need much help on the vote today and the one guy I know is not a Thing is fixated on me and completely at odds with what I see as pretty open/shut BS role reveal.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:47 PM   #2462
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Blade, I'm completely unclear on why you think King is not a Thing. Partly because you won't post your reasons for thinking this.

I know you aren't a Thing today, Blade. Which is part of what makes this frustrating ... I don't think the Things need much help on the vote today and the one guy I know is not a Thing is fixated on me and completely at odds with what I see as pretty open/shut BS role reveal.
Rules are in place in this game that prevent me doing what you want. So either you vote tangle who i might follow you onto or you pick yourself or barkeep...those are my 3
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:48 PM   #2463
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Out of those three I would go Tangle - have him rated significantly higher risk than Barkeep.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:49 PM   #2464
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So we're tied right now?
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:49 PM   #2465
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This is what I show for votes right now:


Hoopsguy - Blade (2324), Cronin (2327), Raiders (2335), path (2342), King (2393), Tangle (2445)

Barkeep - mckerney (2332), Jeeber (2338), Anxiety (2344), Swaggs (2350), Hoopsguy (2447)

Not Voted: Barkeep, WVUFAN
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:51 PM   #2466
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So I'm on the block right now - not sure if it is one or two votes. Depends on if King is telling the truth (Blade thinks he is, I call BS).
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:52 PM   #2467
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Dang, WVUFan was online today and he posted in the Wrestling Spirit thread but declined to even vote in this one!
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:53 PM   #2468
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No matter how this plays out, the WVUFAN factor has played a role in this game. Wish it wasn't the case, but it is.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:54 PM   #2469
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UNVOTE HOOPSGUY
VOTE BARKEEP49


Ah well, somebody's gotta do it.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:54 PM   #2470
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Vote Hoopsguy

I know I'm not a shitface.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:54 PM   #2471
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Raiders please switch back. I'm not a bad guy.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:55 PM   #2472
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oh christ...
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:55 PM   #2473
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Raiders please switch back. I'm not a bad guy.

Don't do it Raiders. I'm sure we'll get one in barkeep, let someone else make the move over and vote for him.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:55 PM   #2474
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Also I have read exactly 3 posts, the first two after I left and the one with the vote tally.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:55 PM   #2475
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raiders...you were already 4th on my list, but barely...that didnt help...but then again, barkeep showing up at the exact second didnt either
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:55 PM   #2476
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Don't do it Raiders. I'm sure we'll get one in barkeep, let someone else make the move over and vote for him.
I'm glad you're sure. It'll give you less crediblity in future games after you've been so sure and yet you come out so wrong.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:56 PM   #2477
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Ok, how much do we trust King is a tiebreaker? Is it worth breaking a tie just to make 100% sure?
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:56 PM   #2478
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6-6 right now as of post #2471 with WVUFAN not here.

If there is a tie, then King should be able to move it if he wasn't lying about his role.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:56 PM   #2479
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raiders...you were already 4th on my list, but barely...that didnt help...but then again, barkeep showing up at the exact second didnt either
Right. See I coach baseball. I was at baseball. It ended. See my dynasty if you don't believe that I coach baseball. I said I wasn't going to be around because normally our games run late. We got killed so I barely make it home in time.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:56 PM   #2480
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it should be 7-6, not 6-6
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:56 PM   #2481
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Ok, how much do we trust King is a tiebreaker? Is it worth breaking a tie just to make 100% sure?

It'd be worth it if you broke the tie.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:57 PM   #2482
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What's this about king?
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:57 PM   #2483
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By all means, check my numbers:

Hoopsguy - Blade (2324), Cronin (2327), path (2342), King (2393), Tangle (2445), Barkeep (2470)

Barkeep - mckerney (2332), Jeeber (2338), Anxiety (2344), Swaggs (2350), Hoopsguy (2447), Raiders (2469)

Not Voted: WVUFAN
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:58 PM   #2484
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What's this about king?

As far as king, I'd be happy if he switched his vote too.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:58 PM   #2485
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UNVOTE HOOPS
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:59 PM   #2486
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UNVOTE HOOPS
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Thank you.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:59 PM   #2487
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Path you're wrong. That's what it is. I am a good guy. 100%. GAH! I can't believe we're about to lose the game.
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Old 05-02-2006, 07:59 PM   #2488
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What's this about king?

King said he's a tiebreaker, vilage unsure RE: credibility.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:00 PM   #2489
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Path you're wrong. That's what it is. I am a good guy. 100%. GAH! I can't believe we're about to lose the game.

I don't know. But a tie loses it for sure.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:00 PM   #2490
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King said he's a tiebreaker, vilage unsure RE: credibility.
Thanks. Better to have a tie then vote for me cause even if he's not telling the truth the outcome is the same.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:01 PM   #2491
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King said he's a tiebreaker, vilage unsure RE: credibility.
Hes not a tie-breaker, he has two votes...but he has to be around to submit it to schmidty...if its tied now, you guys are soooooooo maddening
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:01 PM   #2492
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We got him!
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:01 PM   #2493
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Whatever. It's been a nice game. Interesting concept. Can't wait to see the roles and their writeups.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:02 PM   #2494
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We got him!
Yes you things got me. WTG.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:02 PM   #2495
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Its tied, isnt it...sweet mother of god...you guys GAH!!!!!
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:02 PM   #2496
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Deadline gone. Well, I think it's now game over but you never know....

Maybe we got a few bodyguard blocks or the Things can't convert every night. I suppose if it is the latter then it would go someway to explaining why we haven't been coming up with many hits.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:03 PM   #2497
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Its tied, isnt it...sweet mother of god...you guys GAH!!!!!
Assuming hoops was counting right I'm pretty sure I'm toast.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:03 PM   #2498
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Deadline gone. Well, I think it's now game over but you never know....

Maybe we got a few bodyguard blocks or the Things can't convert every night. I suppose if it is the latter then it would go someway to explaining why we haven't been coming up with many hits.
True, I guess.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:03 PM   #2499
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Yes you things got me. WTG.

Sarcasm or admission of defeat?
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:04 PM   #2500
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Here is what I show for votes - wish it had switched to King or Tanglewood, but so be it.

Hoopsguy - Blade (2324), Cronin (2327), King (2393), Tangle (2445), Barkeep (2470)

Barkeep - mckerney (2332), Jeeber (2338), Anxiety (2344), Swaggs (2350), Hoopsguy (2447), Raiders (2469), path (2487)

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