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Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. | 5 | 5.56% | |
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. | 2 | 2.22% | |
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") | 30 | 33.33% | |
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. | 12 | 13.33% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration | 6 | 6.67% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. | 30 | 33.33% | |
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) | 5 | 5.56% | |
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01-18-2021, 07:33 AM | #2451 |
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The question to ask is would you be ok with ISIS, Al-Qaeda, or a large, organized Muslim group that said things the same way, or behaved the same. If you find variation in your response then perhaps you've found the line.
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01-18-2021, 07:42 AM | #2452 |
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So I think this is the only chess move left for Trump, right?
Order January 20th removed from all calendars so we just move straight to the 21st and there's never another inauguration.
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Any group that has shown a preponderance of violence and incites violence should be "monitored & controlled", no question. But there is a grey area IMO. Let's take Congresswoman Greene as a use case. Do you believe this is appropriate? Twitter Suspends Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's Account : Insurrection At The Capitol: Live Updates : NPR Quote:
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01-18-2021, 07:57 AM | #2454 |
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Twitter, Facebook, etc...have a right to let whomever they want on their platform. They aren't government controlled entities. They have a TOS for a reason.
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Plus that helps her. It's much better for her base that she was suspended and feeds in to her narrative. She doth not protest too much.
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01-18-2021, 08:23 AM | #2456 |
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Russia has infiltrated the MAGA right from the top all the way to the bottom. If the GOP does not purge Trump/MAGA from the party, we're going to have Putin giving the keynote address at the GOP convention within ten years. |
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I think social media companies can do a better job at communicating their rules and be more consistent in enforcing those rules, but, in general, we should acknowledge that most of the time the uneven enforcement comes from being too lenient not too strict. Green has gotten away with breaking the written rules for months and now finally has been told enough is enough.
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01-18-2021, 10:13 AM | #2460 | |
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01-18-2021, 10:13 AM | #2461 |
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It's not so different from the arguments that I had with people in the FB group that I started for our HOA. The argument was, that the Board owned the group (technically I did, I could have killed it anytime, as the founder, and sole moderator for a long time), and therefore the Board could choose what to allow, by setting rules, and enforcing them. If the rule says don't be a dick, and you act like one, and you get suspended, there's no issue there at all. They cried and whined that it's censorship, and the same people said, their voice wasn't being heard, and I countered that there is nothing in the documents regarding the legality of their 'right' to have a voice in the FB group, or it pertaining to the legal communication requirements on how to petition the Board, or be heard within the association, therefore their rights as owners were not in jeopardy at all. They chose not to pursue any of the documented avenues to be heard, only to complain about the process that saw them punished. I can't feel badly about them at all, nor do I feel badly about someone complaining about social media. They are still allowed to write editorials, stand on soap boxes, create their own websites where they are free to say whatever they would like. They can write to congressmen, and they are not in danger of having the government arrest them as dissidents. Their arguments are exceptionally overblown.
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01-18-2021, 10:30 AM | #2463 |
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I'm just on Parler for the hard core porn now that Pornhub had to scrub their site.
Because Parler is where the real heroes for all of us are; and I think we know who that is.
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01-18-2021, 10:36 AM | #2464 |
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The "asshat" rule was put in place after years of running this place, and finally coming to the realization that it was 100% impossible to try to outline every type of douchebaggery that could lead to a person needing to be tossed. No matter how big or small the internet venue, there is going to be some subjectivity in these decision. It's just the nature of the beast.
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Precisely.
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01-18-2021, 11:09 AM | #2467 |
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It exists everywhere on the net. I mean some places moderate some dont But threatening poeople has always been a quick way to get suspended. THis is not a difficult nor NEW concept to grasp. It's just that before they were for some reason letting politicians slide probably out of fear and that it was new territory and now finally the damn broke and it really did become life or death. You. Can't. Plot. Violence. Or. Terrorism. Online. And keep. Your. Accounts. |
01-18-2021, 11:14 AM | #2468 |
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Appreciate everyone's comments on free speech regardless of whether I agree or not.
It seems pretty open and shut case for vast majority of you. But like some leadership in Germany, France, and EU, I view this as more complex. |
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Isn’t it just the same as freedom of speech - you’re legally free to say anything you want, wherever you want, as long as it doesn’t propose, encourage or glorify breaking the law? That’s pretty universal in democratic countries right?
By default, if you propose, encourage or glorify breaking the law, you’re gonna get your account suspended and likely arrested if they can find you.
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01-18-2021, 11:48 AM | #2472 |
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Can we get an ADL definition of 'Asshat', please?
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No problem agreeing with this in concept. The concern is who makes the decisions because I contend there are "degrees" & "grey areas". To me, there's no concern about banning Trump, there is concern about others. See below quotes. Donald Trump's Twitter Ban Concerns World Leaders, Officials Quote:
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In the past this would be a david koresh in a warehouse koolaiding his followers and fbi storming that place with a big shootout. Now there is no warehouse. it's a cyberwarehouse and this is invading that.
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The amusing thing about those European statements on Twitter banning of Trump is that those countries have far more stringent laws against hate speech. Germany criminalizes hate speech (even on social media). France has similar. Both ban Holocaust denial. They just think the government should be the one banning speech.
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I didn't think about the banning of "holocaust denial". It's understandable and (I think) approximates the Trump ban.
So yeah, "they just think the government should be the one banning speech" is a pretty good response. It does seem to be the pot calling the kettle black. FWIW, note the Newsweek article also quotes others from Mexico, Brazil and (the soon to be disappeared) Alexey Navalny. |
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Boebert is supposedly the one that gave the "recon" or "tours". She denies the tour. I have to believe there are CCTV in the Capitol that can resolve this pretty quickly (if not already).
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They are going to look stupid if she is right. She is going to get the boot if she is lying.
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I suspect she’s telling the truth and it was her family she was spotted with. She has to know if she did do it would be easy to confirm.
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Not really. I mean multiple people saw this happen...so an explanation is definitely needed. Her doing shit like this without telling everyone is really bad anyway. |
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Good to know the laptop is secured. If she really did try sell it to Russia, we should throw the book at her.
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I don't even believe it really. I mean I believe how stupid these people are that they would say "I'm gonna sell their shit to Russia hyukhyukhyuk" and even pretend they know what they are doing but really it's so stupid....I'm sure she has a russian steamfriend that she's played games with but this is so stupid.
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MyPillow is being kicked out of Bed Bath and Beyond.
Our BB&B shut down a few months ago. But glad crazy people are being held accountable for their rantings.
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I know there was great concern about Josh Hawley's voice being censored after Simon & Schuster dropped his book following the riots at the Capitol. His book has been picked up by Regnery Publishing. On a related note, Regnery Publishing has a worldwide agreement with... Simon & Schuster.
Cancel Culture indeed
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I'll believe it if/when he votes to impeach, but McConnell appears to want to take the opportunity to dump Trump and put that ugly 4-year stand behind the GOP.
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Also, Pence and others skipping the departure ceremony.
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