It Has Begun - NFL Week 1

[tucker rocky]

TB makes it interesting on the final play.

[Thomkal]

:::facepalm::: Tampa nice job there...not

[Thomkal]

Please don't embarrass yourselves my beloved Cardinals

[Atocep]

WVU beats Schiano again.

[larrymcg421]

I really don't like that penalty in the TB-NYJ game. I get that the defender should be smarter there and not even make it close, but the runner was not out of bounds when the contact was made.

[TroyF]

It is becoming more and more critical in this league to watch out for personal foul penalties. They are called more frequently and they are killers when they happen. The teams who cannot figure it out will win less and less.

We have seen multiple cases of it today.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I really don't like that penalty in the TB-NYJ game. I get that the defender should be smarter there and not even make it close, but the runner was not out of bounds when the contact was made.

He had given himself up and his entire body was out of the field of play. What was the guy hoping to accomplish there? If he forces a fumble, the ball is out of bounds. He wasn't going to tackled him back in bounds.

It was the VERY definition of the rule call: UNNECESSARY ROUGHNESS If the guy was cutting back into the field of play or if he was a yard out, I might see it. Where he was? That was a stupid and deserved the flag.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by TroyF

He had given himself up and his entire body was out of the field of play. What was the guy hoping to accomplish there? If he forces a fumble, the ball is out of bounds. He wasn't going to tackled him back in bounds.

It was the VERY definition of the rule call: UNNECESSARY ROUGHNESS If the guy was cutting back into the field of play or if he was a yard out, I might see it. Where he was? That was a stupid and deserved the flag.

+1

It's going to get called every single time in that situation. His foot was in the process of coming down out of bounds, he had given himself up, there was no threat of him turning upfield.

It was a really stupid play.

[BillJasper]

How is Blaine Gabbert still in the NFL?

[Dutch]

It's unbelievable what the NFL will penalize you for these days.

[tucker rocky]

Just saw a highlight of Andy Reid on the sideline looking like a big red tomato.

[Thomkal]

oh look a Cardinal QB got sacked already...thank god the Cards recovered

[Thomkal]

oh look a Cardinal QB got sacked again

[MrBug708]

Nice to see Fauria to score that TD.

[Thomkal]

And here I was almost ready to curse out that Rams TD...

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

the vikes wish they had a QB capable of padding any good stat

:sigh:

Ponder really sucks.

[TroyF]

Floyd just had a catch in the Cardinals game that was out of this world. Amazing catch.

[Thomkal]

Hey Ronde Barber-its Larry Fitzgerald, not Johnson. Hope that's the first of many Palmer to Fitzgerald TD's

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Floyd just had a catch in the Cardinals game that was out of this world. Amazing catch.

Yeah it sure was-hope its a sign of things to come for him after a pretty horrid rookie year.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

:::facepalm::: Tampa nice job there...not

He didn't decleat him....he shoved him. It happens fast. If we expect a defender to be that fast, maybe the ref should have been quick to blow the whistle...which there is no way that whistle was blown before the shove.

I think it's ridiculous that the Bucs defense was penalized so many times, not for unsportsmanlike conduct, not for crushing blows....but for good hard hitting football....and what seemed to just be an insurance shove to make sure Smith went out of bounds. It's sad because even the announcers don't question it anymore.

[tucker rocky]

GB answers back with a fast TD. 7-7

[DaddyTorgo]

Horrible game by the Pats. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.

To some degree I'm surprised they managed to pull it out actually.

Crying shame that they didn't load up at all for the stretch-run of Brady's career and he's being saddled with a bunch of rookie receivers.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Just saw a highlight of Andy Reid on the sideline looking like a winning big red tomato.

Fixed.

[TRO]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

...Elvis Fischer looked great...

Who?

[Matthean]

I like how the summary of the Lions recap is basically they are still terrible and undisciplined as hell, but they now have a RB who can get them out of those situations. Yay?

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Fixed.

Originally Posted by tucker rocky
Just saw a highlight of Andy Reid on the sideline looking like a winning big red tomato.

[MrBug708]

That just happened for Green Bay...wow

[chinaski]

now thats a late hit!

[chadritt]

Remind me again why Baltimore decided to give Boldin away.

[Crapshoot]

Clay Matthews Jr with a jackass play. And why did GB give the 49ers a shot to replay the 3rd down anyway?

[TroyF]

That was bush league. I'm not sure people would like me as a commish. If I were, Mathews would get an immediate ejection and a one game suspension (just like the NCAA) for a cheap shot. There was no need for that.

I mean, are the Packers really trying to get me to cheer for Jim Harbaugh now, really?

[Abe Sargent]

Don' know if I will seee a better play with the late hit by Matthews and the 49ers saying, oh no you don;t and smacking him back. That was a rea,l "Team protects the Team" moment., Glad the 49ers scored.

[Thomkal]

Clay Matthews really meant his comment I guess about going all out after Kaepernick. Geeze

[RedKingGold]

Clay Matthews can eat shit and die.

Fucking poser has-been.

[EagleFan]

Punk move by Matthews, and the announcers tried to downplay it.

[MrBug708]

Matthews had a little too much roid rage

Green bay essentiall had San Fran stopped on 3rd down twice and still blow it on third down

[EagleFan]

lol, what was that returner doing?

[TroyF]

If this game were to get out of hand either way, they may need military intervention to stop the cheap shots. This thing could get really nasty as we move along.

[Thomkal]

well off to fix dinner-Carson Palmer looking good so far 11/15, 156 yards 1 TD, 0 INT. Hopefully he's still looking that good when I get back here.

[Scarecrow]

Wow, I disagree with everyone about Matthews/Kaepernick.

Kaepernick rolls out, sees no defense payers in front of him and takes off, he becomes a RUNNING BACK. A hit with one foot out of bounds on a running back means nothing; but on a quarterback, it's worthy of a suspension. And I'm sure Harbaugh bitching about it all week had a lot to do with it.

Now I will say it should have been a penalty for spear/launching/leading with his head, but not for a late hit - Matthews was already airborne when he stepped out, and could have turned back in just as easily.

[RedKingGold]

Except that he's not a running back, he's a quarterback.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Mike D

I think it's ridiculous that the Bucs defense was penalized so many times, not for unsportsmanlike conduct, not for crushing blows....but for good hard hitting football....and what seemed to just be an insurance shove to make sure Smith went out of bounds.

I disagree 100%. One thing I loved about the officiating today (caught most of the Panthers/Seahawks, the end of Pats/Bills, and the end of Bucs/Jets) was that they called all the ticky-tack after play stuff that they used to let go. They weren't about to let anything get out of control, and I'm all for it. ANYTHING late was called - they nailed a Seahawks player for diving onto a Carolina player after he was down from two other Seahakws, for example. The Carolina ejection was earned - a little shove between two linemen, then he slugged him in the head. I like it - these guys need to learn to play hard until the whistle, and stop all the cheapshots once the guy is down.

Smith WAS out of bounds, the guy didn't bump him, he put both hands on his shoulder and shoved him hard. Stupid play, and an earned penalty. That's not football (well, maybe it is for some), that's trying to show you're tough.

[Shkspr]

Originally Posted by chadritt

Remind me again why Baltimore decided to give Boldin away.

Because $92 million isn't enough money to pay for the first guy to get Baltimore a Super Bowl since Trent Dilfer.

[Coffee Warlord]

That looks...pretty bad in slomo. Looks like Matthews left his feet and launched when Kaepernick had a foot out already.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Except that he's not a running back, he's a quarterback.

not once he brings it down and runs with it.

I think it looked worse because it was up high, but it will be called every time.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Wow, I disagree with everyone about Matthews/Kaepernick.

Kaepernick rolls out, sees no defense payers in front of him and takes off, he becomes a RUNNING BACK. A hit with one foot out of bounds on a running back means nothing; but on a quarterback, it's worthy of a suspension. And I'm sure Harbaugh bitching about it all week had a lot to do with it.

Now I will say it should have been a penalty for spear/launching/leading with his head, but not for a late hit - Matthews was already airborne when he stepped out, and could have turned back in just as easily.

Maybe you misunderstand me. . . I don't give a rats ass if that was a QB, a RB, an OL or a Punter. A cheap shot is a cheap shot. And I'm sorry, but that was cheap as hell. If the NCAA rules were in place, that hit doesn't happen. It's not 15 yards or an automatic first, it's you are gone the rest of the game and next week, have a nice life.

As far as the shot, I'm sorry, but it's bull. Just like the Smith hit people are complaining about earlier, Kaepernick had given himself up. It was over. Mathews did not have to throw his arm around his neck and drive him to the ground. He was targeting and that should be dealt with by the league more severely.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

That's not football (well, maybe it is for some), that's trying to show you're tough.

It was a shove, not a bump or a hard shove but a shove and he wasn't out of bounds yet (although I get he was giving himself up...just that he was moving forward while he was giving himself up). Regardless, I'm not surprised the flag was thrown because I've seen the NFL transform itself regarding QB's as well as anybody has, I just think it's gone to far. Geno Smith just ran 10 yards and was in a scenario where every inch counted at that point (FG range at point of shove was 63 yards) and it was not a dumb toughguy shove, but a shove to get him out of bounds so the FG would still be 63 yards and not 62, 60 or 58 yards. That quick second thinking ultimately got called as unsportsmanlike conduct and resulted in a 48-yard FG. There is just something seriously off-putting about that.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Except that he's not a running back, he's a quarterback.

If people expect QB to be RB, then they should expect the consequences of being a RB.

[Lathum]

I can see both sides of the argument, but the reality is defenders should know how the games are being called and not make hits, bumps, shoves, whatever you want to call it.

[kingfc22]

You can't miss that tackle.