College Football Recruiting (2014 Class) Discussion

[Logan]

I was searching for something else and randomly ended up on the thread for the 2007 signing day. Just a tremendous number of names you would never recognize today. Serves as a good reminder.

Signing day is almost here! - Front Office Football Central

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Logan

I was searching for something else and randomly ended up on the thread for the 2007 signing day. Just a tremendous number of names you would never recognize today. Serves as a good reminder.

Signing day is almost here! - Front Office Football Central

Somewhere there has to be an analysis of how many 4-* and 5-* recruits have one senior awards, and how many end up playing in the NFL for more than 1 season.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Somewhere there has to be an analysis of how many 4-* and 5-* recruits have one senior awards, and how many end up playing in the NFL for more than 1 season.

Here you go:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...tball/21641769

Also, not exactly what you're looking for, but relevant:

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/what%E2%8...iting-rankings

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/201...aching-effects

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootba...recruitin.html

[CU Tiger]

Clemson signed a nice 8* recruit today when DE Vic Beasley decided to return for his senior year.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Clemson signed a nice 8* recruit today when DE Vic Beasley decided to return for his senior year.

Man, he must be really good.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Man, he must be really good.

Well, he's 3 stars on special teams, 3 stars on defense, and 2 stars on offense.

[MrBug708]

So half of myles jack

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Man, he must be really good.

2nd in the Nation in sack, and 2nd in the nation in TFL.
Only his second year ever playing DE and his first year starting at the position...

Just a joke, obviously.

But he would have gone late 1st early 2nd in the draft. Not many of those come back for one more ride.

[dawgfan]

I have decommited from Oregon an decided to reopen my recruitment Coach H an the ducks are a great program just not the right program for me

— budda baker (@buddabaker32) January 17, 2014

Word is he's now considering Washington & UCLA. He'd be a huge statement get for Chris Petersen in his 1st recruiting class for the Huskies...

[MrBug708]

UW needs anyone at this point. I think he is UW s but I hope his mom isn't getting worse

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

UW needs anyone at this point. I think he is UW s but I hope his mom isn't getting worse

Actually, the class is shaping up pretty good for a transition class. But landing Baker would shut up a lot of skeptical Husky fans that think Petersen will have a hard time recruiting at the P12 level.

[MrBug708]

I'm guessing you close on Carta-Samuels and McGary. Who else out there that is realistic? Griffin? Maybe Tre Watson?

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'm guessing you close on Carta-Samuels and McGary. Who else out there that is realistic? Griffin? Maybe Tre Watson?

Sounds like the new staff isn't pursuing Griffin.

Here's my read on things - I think Pete flips Jaylen Johnson, Greg Gaines, Aisea Tongilava and K.J. Carta-Samuels (if offered). I think he lands Dante Pettis.

Kaleb McGary will be a big test - he apparently loves the small-town vibe of Oregon State, and that may be too much to overcome.

Khalil Oliver will be a battle with Oregon most likely.

Kammy Delp and Demario Richard are longshots, but possible.

I would think that Pete can flip either/both of Jomon Dotson and Tre Watson if he goes hard after them, but who knows.

No idea on what level of interest Kalani Vakameilalo has, but obviously some if he's visiting this weekend.

I think he'll get Shane Bowman to flip from Oregon State. And I suspect he'll be able to flip Koa Farmer from Cal. Might be able to flip Malik Dorton too, seems like Sark is cooling on him.

[MrBug708]

What's the latest on Baker? I think escaping UW without a verbal is good for UCLA's chances

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

What's the latest on Baker? I think escaping UW without a verbal is good for UCLA's chances

It might be, but I think Baker was going to visit UCLA no matter what. He's saying that he probably won't announce until Signing Day, and no sooner than 3 days prior, so (if true) he clearly wants to spend some time reflecting on both visits and thinking about it.

I keep thinking that his mom's health situation will ultimately sway him to stay home and not force her to have to pack up and move down to L.A., but who knows. Clearly he's very interested in UCLA, so the distance thing obviously isn't a deal-breaker.

The other thing that gives me some optimism is I keep hearing that Petersen is very similar to Butch Goncharoff, his H.S. coach, and that Petersen's style is very much in line with what appeals to Baker.

[CU Tiger]

Interesting little side story happening this weekend in FL.

Richard Yeargin III is a WDE/OLB (listed as 6'5" but a legit 6'4" and 220...) who has been committed to ND since the summer. Clemson liked their chances prior to his commitment but then backed off. Late in the season he reached out to CU coaches and came on a surprise visit the next to last week of the season.

Contact has maintained since then culminating with an in home from Swinney and (DC) Brent Venebales earlier this week. Privately the coaching staff thought they had a signing day flip IF they missed on both of their remaining DE targets...

Well today RY3 de-committs from ND shocking the Clemson staff and leaving them scurrying...

[BishopMVP]

Not a great couple weeks for ND's D-line players/targets.

Can't get too mad, because we just went and poached a pretty decent DT from Rutgers. Round and round it goes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ricky Town decommits from Alabama Crimson Tide, eyes USC Trojans - ESPN

[MrBug708]

No surprise. If Stanford comes calling he could be a Tree

[Eaglesfan27]

Damien Mama and Juju Smith both had a great visit at USC this weekend and there are reports that they will shut down their recruiting and be joining USC.

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Damien Mama and Juju Smith both had a great visit at USC this weekend and there are reports that they will shut down their recruiting and be joining USC.

I know Mama is still scheduled to come to BYU at the end of the month or the big recruit visit. If he cancels that trip we will know. I have never thought BYU had a shot with him, but I would like to think we will because he plans on going right on his mission.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Ricky Town decommits from Alabama Crimson Tide, eyes USC Trojans - ESPN

Town has committed to USC tonight. He always wanted to be a Trojan but wanted nothing to do with Kiffin.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

but wanted nothing to do with Kiffin.

Ah, a kid with judgment

[MrBug708]

Everyone wants to be a Trojan until usc doesn't want them

[Eaglesfan27]

4 star TE Bryce Dixon has cancelled his trip to UCLA and says he is locked in with USC.

[MacroGuru]

Great article on Mormon recruits and their missions and the effects it can have.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/hig...s-missions.ece

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Great article on Mormon recruits and their missions and the effects it can have.

May not be the right place to ask this question, but since the subject is up ...

I thought missions were two year deals, or maybe 18 months with some training/preparation time ... but a local kid here just got his assignment (or whatever the right word is) and it's for 4 months to Alaska. Do the lengths vary or would he get a different assignment for the balance of it, or ???

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

May not be the right place to ask this question, but since the subject is up ...

I thought missions were two year deals, or maybe 18 months with some training/preparation time ... but a local kid here just got his assignment (or whatever the right word is) and it's for 4 months to Alaska. Do the lengths vary or would he get a different assignment for the balance of it, or ???

Typically it's 24 months, sometimes they are sent locally for a few months while their visa's clear on foreign missions.

One of my best friends son was sent to Orlando, but he was learning Haitian and sometimes it's a temporary assignment. I would wonder if he is hitting a specific language region of Alaska or if his mission papers are spelled out in detail, 4 months in Alaska, rest in the Northwest Territory after his papers clear.

[MacroGuru]

Good to see the host girl culture is still thriving at Mizzou...

Twitter / AlmightyKeyon: These Mizzou girls � ...

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Good to see the host girl culture is still thriving at Mizzou...

Twitter / AlmightyKeyon: These Mizzou girls � ...

LOL, looks like that might bump Mizzou above BYU now, don't think he has any pics like that from Provo.

I would rather land Devon Blackmon anyway, would give BYU the best deep threat they have had since Todd Watkins and he would make a nice 1-2 punch with Nick Kurtz.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

4 star TE Bryce Dixon has cancelled his trip to UCLA and says he is locked in with USC.

I could have told you that he wasn't coming. I know his handler and he is one of the biggest SC homer I've ever met.

He was also already recruited over by UCLA

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Good to see the host girl culture is still thriving at Mizzou...

Twitter / AlmightyKeyon: These Mizzou girls � ...

Originally Posted by BYU 14

LOL, looks like that might bump Mizzou above BYU now, don't think he has any pics like that from Provo.

I would rather land Devon Blackmon anyway, would give BYU the best deep threat they have had since Todd Watkins and he would make a nice 1-2 punch with Nick Kurtz.

Dilosa commits to Missouri, that may actually help with Blackmon now, since he visits next weekend and they can offer him on the spot.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Good to see the host girl culture is still thriving at Mizzou...

Twitter / AlmightyKeyon: These Mizzou girls � ...

Where my white women at?

[Logan]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Not a great couple weeks for ND's D-line players/targets.

Can't get too mad, because we just went and poached a pretty decent DT from Rutgers. Round and round it goes.

Mokwuah will be an OL at the college level.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Logan

Mokwuah will be an OL at the college level.

Nah, at 6'4 318 he's too small for that at ND Maybe eventually, but right now he projects as necessary depth along the D-Line for ND. Not that Mokwuah really looks like he'll be an impact player in 2014, but the O-Line is stacked at the 2-deep and the D-line depth chart is extremely thin since we've lost Nix/Tuitt/Vanderdoes/Dickerson recently (Yeargin projects as an OLB, and who knows, he might come back if Clemson doesn't actually offer him).

[MrBug708]

Word on Budda Baker is pretty quiet on the UW front, which makes me hopeful. Even the homers seem completely in the dark, which is a farcry from the Myles Jack recruitment

[Eaglesfan27]

I wouldn't be shocked if Baker ends up at USC.

[MrBug708]

I don't think any of us are surprised by that comment

[bhlloy]

Yeah, even I think that one is wildly optimistic. Although I don't think UCLA would be too unhappy with that outcome, as it would mean a certain other S ended up in Westwood

[MrBug708]

I think I'd go Adoree, Baker, JuJu in order of importance and desire for ucla. It coincides with flexibility on the field

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I wouldn't be shocked if Baker ends up at USC.

Everybody that follows recruiting would be.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Word on Budda Baker is pretty quiet on the UW front, which makes me hopeful. Even the homers seem completely in the dark, which is a farcry from the Myles Jack recruitment

Baker keeps things very close to the vest. I'm not sure if it was 247 or Rivals, but one of his visit reports from this weekend at UCLA apparently mentions his mom is still concerned about the distance factor of L.A., which makes me hopeful he stays home. We'll see though - clearly he's got a very strong interest in UCLA.

[MrBug708]

Obviously everything is somewhat slanted but I heard that a lot of the family concerns were relieved

[BishopMVP]

What's the West Coast read on Quick? The ND guys who have basically given up on Juju still seem to think we have a decent shot at him (with OU still the favorite).

Past that, our 3 main targets (Mckenzie, Alexander, Sawyers) remaining all seem to be coming down to ND or.... Ole Miss, so yikes, but if they choose ND that means they have their priorities straight.

LB commit Kolin Hill also received an offer from childhood favorite Texas once Strong took over, so we may lose him, but it's understandable if we do. Other than that hopefully there's no signing days surprises.

[MrBug708]

Quick is probably 80/20 Oklahoma/UCLA

Why did the ND guys wait so long to give up on Juju? He's not 100% USC but he's pretty dang close

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Quick is probably 80/20 Oklahoma/UCLA

Why did the ND guys wait so long to give up on Juju? He's not 100% USC but he's pretty dang close

Because he would always mention ND as being in his top 3/top 5, even if it was obvious USC was the heavy #1. Plus it's USC, so you always have the people that think he might pull a Te'o.

[vex]

The Admin on the OU board is up to 99.9% on Quick to OU. He never gives odds like that. Almost wonder if he's a silent commit.

[MrBug708]

I was being generous on the Quick odds for ucla

[MrBug708]

Mama is visiting ucla instead of BYU. He loves Klemm but grew up a usc fan. Heart vs head

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Mama is visiting ucla instead of BYU. He loves Klemm but grew up a usc fan. Heart vs head

Now the question is, will they talk him out of going on his mission? He turns 18 he is eligible to go now. He is taking about going right out. If so, I doubt he signs a letter for anyone and heads out. Doesn't mean much for BYU because if he is going to choose USC now, he will when he gets back.