2010 NFL Coaching Firing/Hiring Thread - Page 5

AFShadow · 01-13-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Eagles- JAckson, Avant, Macklin

Cowgirls- Miles, Bryant, Williams

Easily better than lloyd and co, just my two cents.

Agree on Cowboys forgot about Bryant since he was out most of the year. Disagree on Eagles most because of Avant and Vick made those receivers better than a guy like Orton did in Denver with McNumbnuts play calling and offense game plan or lack of one actually.

BishopMVP · 01-13-2011, 11:10 PM

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I guess it is a good thing neither of us is scout or in professional football as a personel guy

Eh... you can phrase it as you will. I've only seen limited clips of Thomas, Decker (in college), even Royal (who I actually do like), and have admittedly never even heard the name Matt Willis before now. But Jabar Gaffney I do know quite well... and if he's your #2, or even your #3, then no, you do not have a good receiving corps, let alone one of the best in the game. I won't say he's practice squad fodder, but he's the NFL equivalent of a AAAA player/min-sal JAG.

AFShadow · 01-13-2011, 11:20 PM

He would be the fourth receiver on this team but after I looked at his stats not as good as I thought except for the last year or two.

Pumpy Tudors · 01-13-2011, 11:33 PM

Can we at least all agree that Denver's defense is shit?

AFShadow · 01-13-2011, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Can we at least all agree that Denver's defense is shit?

Absolutely terrible. They really need to find a way to sign Champ Bailey and get Perrish Cox out of jail or soon to be in it, then draft that safety out of UCLA, trade out of the #2 pick overall and see if they can stock pile some more picks in the 1st or 2nd round 2nd round and get a DT or two early as well as a a pair of LBs ....oh and get another RB to complement Moreno. Geez they are f@#$ed!

Chief Rum · 01-14-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

You really think the Broncos have the deepest WR core in the NFL?

Actually, I agree with him that it is deep, in that you could replace one of the top guys with a backup and get darn near the same performance. The problem is the performance.

Thomkal · 01-14-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Sounds like a good fit.

Having been witness to all of John Fox's career here at Carolina, I can tell you to get ready for a conservative, at times ultra conservative run first offense, at times frustrating playcalling on third and long where they will run the ball more than most teams, or short pass plays not close enough to the first down marker.

He's not a good evaluator of draft talent-look at the long line of WR's including the current ones at Carolina for that-made horrible trades on draft day and then chose a QB in the second round with their first pick of the draft when they had gaping holes and Matt Moore already on board. Okay so Moore turned out to suck, but no one was thinking that he would be this bad at the time of the draft.

On the defensive side of the ball, his teams usually are pretty good, so you should probably expect the same with Denver.

I am surprised that out of all the "big-name" former coaches looking for jobs this off-season, he's the one that got hired. I think he really needed a season off to recharge his batteries after a tough couple seasons in Carolina where he was a lame duck coach just waiting for his contract to run out.

Matthean · 01-14-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Having been witness to all of John Fox's career here at Carolina, I can tell you to get ready for a conservative, at times ultra conservative run first offense, at times frustrating playcalling on third and long where they will run the ball more than most teams, or short pass plays not close enough to the first down marker.

He's not a good evaluator of draft talent-look at the long line of WR's including the current ones at Carolina for that-made horrible trades on draft day and then chose a QB in the second round with their first pick of the draft when they had gaping holes and Matt Moore already on board. Okay so Moore turned out to suck, but no one was thinking that he would be this bad at the time of the draft.

On the defensive side of the ball, his teams usually are pretty good, so you should probably expect the same with Denver.

I am surprised that out of all the "big-name" former coaches looking for jobs this off-season, he's the one that got hired. I think he really needed a season off to recharge his batteries after a tough couple seasons in Carolina where he was a lame duck coach just waiting for his contract to run out.

And the offensive issues can be dealt with via an OC. Fox also doesn't need to have so much control over personnel decisions either. With Elway there, my guess is he's going to try and make sure the offense succeeds.

gstelmack · 01-14-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I am surprised that out of all the "big-name" former coaches looking for jobs this off-season, he's the one that got hired. I think he really needed a season off to recharge his batteries after a tough couple seasons in Carolina where he was a lame duck coach just waiting for his contract to run out.

Denver was getting desperate having been turned down so much. And I think a lot of the "big names" are waiting for the labor situation to figure itself out.

Arles · 01-14-2011, 11:19 AM

I'd put up Jennings, Driver, Jones and Jordy (you could even add in Finley for next season) above most teams - esp Denver.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-19-2011, 05:08 PM

Pete continues his old patterns firing Jeremy Bates and bringing in Morton from USC to coach in Seattle.

JediKooter · 01-19-2011, 05:30 PM

What does zombie Al Davis have to say about all this?

tarcone · 01-19-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

What does zombie Al Davis have to say about all this?

Brains. More Brains.

Rizon · 01-19-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Brains. More Brains.

Nah, I think brains are like kryptonite to Satan Davis.

BishopMVP · 01-19-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Pete continues his old patterns firing Jeremy Bates and bringing in Morton from USC to coach in Seattle.

Hmm.... does Morton have "RB Dive" and/or "QB Sneak" in the playbook for 4th and 1? Could be an improvement if yes.

cartman · 01-27-2011, 05:30 PM

Looks like Fisher isn't going to be back with the Titans next season.

Titans, Jeff Fisher parting ways after turbulent offseason - NFL - SI.com

RedKingGold · 01-27-2011, 05:30 PM

Don Banks reporting that Jeff Fisher is out at Tennessee.

Lathum · 01-27-2011, 05:44 PM

Does that mean VY stays?

Eaglesfan27 · 01-27-2011, 05:47 PM

Shitty move by Adams to wait to fire him.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-27-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Does that mean VY stays?

Only if Al Davis ate Bud Adams brain.

Lathum · 01-27-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Shitty move by Adams to wait to fire him.

my thoughts as well, no more jobs left.

Moves like this always make me scratch my head, makes me wonder what proven coach would go work for a guy who would operate like that.

Swaggs · 01-27-2011, 06:48 PM

Fisher might look attractive to USC in another year.

bhlloy · 01-27-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Fisher might look attractive to USC in another year.

From where I'm standing he looks attractive right now. Can't think of too many kids who would be pissed if he took over for Kiffin.

Matthean · 01-27-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

From where I'm standing he looks attractive right now. Can't think of too many kids who would be pissed if he took over for Kiffin.

If I were him, I would want to see what the final ruling is on scholarships.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-27-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

From where I'm standing he looks attractive right now. Can't think of too many kids who would be pissed if he took over for Kiffin.

Kiffin and staff are recruiting extremely well. I wouldn't take Fisher over Kiffin plus this staff right now. I would love Fisher if he keeps all of the staff except the 2 Kiffins.

Rizon · 01-27-2011, 07:29 PM

miami_fan · 01-27-2011, 07:37 PM

The owners are so pissed off at the players that they are taking it out on the coaches.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-27-2011, 07:46 PM

Ok, who saw this coming at this point?

RainMaker · 01-27-2011, 07:51 PM

Would love to have Fisher in Chicago.

RedKingGold · 01-27-2011, 08:14 PM

I think there will be another surprise firing or two, possibly targeted at getting Fisher.

RainMaker · 01-27-2011, 08:51 PM

Fisher would probably be smart to sit out the year and see where the chips fall in the offseason. Praying that the Bears don't give Lovie an extension. The Giants job could be open too for him.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-27-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I think there will be another surprise firing or two, possibly targeted at getting Fisher.

He'd have been a top target of the 49ers. Harbaugh out?

RedKingGold · 01-27-2011, 09:40 PM

My first thought is that Fisher could go to Miami. Ireland has already thrown Sparano under the bus, might as will finish the job.

AFShadow · 01-27-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Shitty move by Adams to wait to fire him.

Sounds more like a mutual parting of ways. Fisher is getting a 4-5 million buyout to not come back. It is being reported he wanted to bring his son on to the staff as some kind of entry level coach-quality control who set up drill sand do some very basic stuff below the other position coaches. Adams has a strict rule about nepotism in the organization and rejected Gregg Williams coming back as the Defensive coordinator since he wanted his son as a coach to be part a deal Adams killed that deal.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-27-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AFShadow

Sounds more like amutual parting of ways. fisher is getting a 4-5 million buyout to not come back. It is being reported he wanted to bring his son on to the staff as some kind of entry level coach-quality control who set up drill sand do some very basic stuff below the other position coaches. Adams has a strict rule about nepotism in the organization and rejected Gregg Williams coming back as the Defensive coordinator since he wanted his son as a coach to be part a deal Adams killed that deal.

Guess that rules Marty Schottenheimer out. (although it would be a perfect excuse... "Um, you see son, Bud's got this rule..."

cuervo72 · 01-27-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I think there will be another surprise firing or two, possibly targeted at getting Fisher.

Norv!!!

Izulde · 01-27-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

My first thought is that Fisher could go to Miami. Ireland has already thrown Sparano under the bus, might as will finish the job.

I still don't think Ireland should have gotten an extension, but I'd take Fisher over Sparano any day.

Butter · 02-01-2011, 06:18 AM

Bengals FINALLY get rid of offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski. That guy hasn't been any good since the Carson Palmer knee injury season.

01-13-2011, 11:33 PM	#204
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01-14-2011, 11:19 AM	#210
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01-27-2011, 05:47 PM	#219
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01-13-2011, 11:20 PM	#203
AFShadow n00b Join Date: Oct 2010	He would be the fourth receiver on this team but after I looked at his stats not as good as I thought except for the last year or two.

01-27-2011, 05:30 PM	#217
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Don Banks reporting that Jeff Fisher is out at Tennessee.

01-27-2011, 05:44 PM	#218
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Does that mean VY stays?

01-27-2011, 06:48 PM	#222
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Fisher might look attractive to USC in another year. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-27-2011, 07:37 PM	#227
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	The owners are so pissed off at the players that they are taking it out on the coaches. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

01-27-2011, 07:46 PM	#228
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Ok, who saw this coming at this point?

01-27-2011, 07:51 PM	#229
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Would love to have Fisher in Chicago.

01-27-2011, 08:14 PM	#230
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I think there will be another surprise firing or two, possibly targeted at getting Fisher.

01-27-2011, 08:51 PM	#231
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Fisher would probably be smart to sit out the year and see where the chips fall in the offseason. Praying that the Bears don't give Lovie an extension. The Giants job could be open too for him.

01-27-2011, 09:40 PM	#233
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	My first thought is that Fisher could go to Miami. Ireland has already thrown Sparano under the bus, might as will finish the job. Last edited by RedKingGold : 01-27-2011 at 09:41 PM.

02-01-2011, 06:18 AM	#238
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Bengals FINALLY get rid of offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski. That guy hasn't been any good since the Carson Palmer knee injury season. __________________ My listening habits

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