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[mckerney]

Blargh.

[Abe Sargent]

The Panthers have woken up

[DeToxRox]

I believe with Carolina's win, Detroit jumps over TB for the #2 pick. A shame Suh will go #1.

[MrDNA]

Wow, Vikings getting embarassed here.

[Abe Sargent]

More proof that Delhomme blows donkey cheese

[Radii]

I have no idea WTF is happening here but I like it! Too bad that all Carolina is playing for is trying to give San Francisco the worst 1st round pick possible.

[Abe Sargent]

Vikings, you can't make a game of it now. Knock it off.

[Abe Sargent]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Abe Sargent]

When Favre throws a pick, an angel gets its wings

[jbergey22]

Vikings O Line needs a wake up call. What a pathetic effort.

Things never change. Put the Vikings on grass and they suck.

I'm glad this happned. Childress calls a conservative game early and this is what happens. Athough thinking about it he was probably doing it to fire up that line that has turned into a bunch of whimps.

All Pro tackle Bryant McKinnie gets benched. Funny stuff. He needs it.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Vikings O Line needs a wake up call. What a pathetic effort.

Things never change. Put the Vikings on grass and they suck.

I'm glad this happned. Childress calls a conservative game early and this is what happens. Athough thinking about it he was probably doing it to fire up that line that has turned into a bunch of whimps.

All Pro tackle Bryant McKinnie gets benched. Funny stuff. He needs it.

Have the Vikes turned into a passing team with an average running game? I can't understand how a team can run the ball with Tarvaris Jackson but can't run the ball with Brett Favre at QB.

[SackAttack]

A tale of two Hart High quarterbacks...the one who got all the press is the backup in St. Louis, of all places, while the other one just knocked off the 2nd best team in the NFC.

Hilarious.

[EagleFan]

Sweet, the Eagles are only a game out of a possible bye.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Have the Vikes turned into a passing team with an average running game? I can't understand how a team can run the ball with Tarvaris Jackson but can't run the ball with Brett Favre at QB.

Their line has turned into a bunch of whimps. They are playing lazy because they were scoring points by passing the ball so they got complacent.

Childress called a conservative game early which kept the Vikings from getting on the board. Apparently Childress hasnt accepted the fact that his line has forced him to be a passing team. The signs that Childress is clueless are coming back.

I love his comment out of halftime. "We could have gotten 62 yards at the half by not even practicing the week." That comment alone says a lot about his coaching.

The Panthers played this game with a lot of pride and heart while the Vikings played it like a preseason game and got stomped in every possible way.

Not a good sign as championship teams dont pass up on opportunities like this.

[kingfc22]

Frustrating season.

At least the team is competitive now. Hopefully, next season we can improve the O-line and get a pass rusher with our two #1 picks and FA.

Also another year with the same OC would help even though I don't think Jimmy Raye is the answer, but the team can NOT switch coordinators again.

[jbergey22]

Childress tried to bench Favre in the 3rd quarter leading 7-6. WTF?

I'd love to hear his explanation for that.

[Crapshoot]

The 49ers need the Panthers to lose out. They need to get a RT with the 1st of the #1 picks (unless by some miracle a Berry or someone drops that far) and maybe even the 2nd pick; some edge rushing would be nice as well, but the line desperately needs help. I think Staley is a solid T but jesus, the teams needs time for its offensive playmakers.

[k0ruptr]

It's crazy how AD can have a bad game, but still get over a 100 yards from scrimmage, thats hella impressive. He is clearly the best running back in the game to me. I know Chris Johnson this , Chris Johnson that. I still think AD is #1.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Their line has turned into a bunch of whimps. They are playing lazy because they were scoring points by passing the ball so they got complacent.

Childress called a conservative game early which kept the Vikings from getting on the board. Apparently Childress hasnt accepted the fact that his line has forced him to be a passing team. The signs that Childress is clueless are coming back.

I love his comment out of halftime. "We could have gotten 62 yards at the half by not even practicing the week." That comment alone says a lot about his coaching.

The Panthers played this game with a lot of pride and heart while the Vikings played it like a preseason game and got stomped in every possible way.

Not a good sign as championship teams dont pass up on opportunities like this.

Don't take this the wrong way, but this reminds me a lot of the Jets' season last year. Of course the Vikings will make the playoffs and all but there are a lot of similarities. Good to great running team that just needed a competent QB to make a few throws for them. They get good QB play and all of a sudden, they start tossing the ball 40+ times a game. Then they can't run the ball anymore. Now the QB does not have to just make a few throws, he has to win the game every week.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Childress tried to bench Favre in the 3rd quarter leading 7-6. WTF?

I'd love to hear his explanation for that.

Brad just got a bit too big for his britches since he got his contract extension. Brett just let that out to put Brad back in his proper place.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Childress tried to bench Favre in the 3rd quarter leading 7-6. WTF?

I'd love to hear his explanation for that.

He thought he was getting too beat up and wanted to protect him.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Matthean

He thought he was getting too beat up and wanted to protect him.

It was a meaningless game right?

By the way, I loved the Eagles game, but I was blown away by the Mike Wallace catch in the Steelers game...amazing.

Oh and for fantasy purposes, anytime crappy teams get together (Cle-KC, Cle-Det), I'm gonna grab and start someone...keeps me from raging

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

It was a meaningless game right?

It wasn't though. They are still playing for a bye and have a small shot at the top seed.

Not to mention that I think it is more of a mental loss to have to bench your QB in a tight game because you've conceded your offensive line is horseshit.

[tucker rocky]

Raiders actually have 5, count'em 5 wins this season?!?

Good times are on the way for Raiders?

[molson]

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Raiders actually have 5, count'em 5 wins this season?!?

Good times are on the way for Raiders?

They're a QB away from being a decent team.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Radii

I have no idea WTF is happening here but I like it! Too bad that all Carolina is playing for is trying to give San Francisco the worst 1st round pick possible.

Delhomme was not in there throwing picks.

Like many other teams, Carolina was a half-decent (or at least a non-turnover-machine) QB from being right back in the playoffs.

[MrDNA]

Holmgren and the Browns, sitting in a tree...

[Mustang]

What a Monday night shit fest.

[kcchief19]

What ... the fuck ... was .... THAT?

[Abe Sargent]

Im literally speechless

[Pumpy Tudors]

And Jim Zorn officially tops Lane Kiffin's 76-yard FG attempt from last year on the "I don't give a fuck" scale.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Childress tried to bench Favre in the 3rd quarter leading 7-6. WTF?

I'd love to hear his explanation for that.

Reading the story about it today and going back to the earlier game against the Packers when the Vikings were trying to run out the clock and Favre audibled out of a run play and threw an incompletion, I cannot understand why people love this guy.

If anyone else confronted their coach like Favre did in these situations, they would be trashed left and right. With Favre, it's excused and even worshipped. He's a self-centered ego maniac who happens to be a talented QB. There is no way the Vikings will win the Super Bowl and he's the reason. He will kill this team at some point with his ego and poor decision making, and I won't feel sorry for him or the Vikings one bit. They knew what they were getting.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

There is no way the Vikings will win the Super Bowl and he's the reason.

And without him, they aren't even relevant to the conversation.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

And Jim Zorn officially tops Lane Kiffin's 76-yard FG attempt from last year on the "I don't give a fuck" scale.

I don't know which part of the play was my favorite:

* Where the entire line flanked out to the right;
* The moment the kicker went into motion;
* The part where with one blocker the punter nearly got his ass handed to him by three rushers;
* The moment when the punter threw the hail mary pass;
* When you realized that none of the Redskins where running a pass pattern to try and catch the hail mary pass; or
* The near TD the Giants got out of that cluster.

That play should be in the dictionary next to "monkey fucking a football."

[DataKing]

Somebody give me a reason to keep watching this train wreck.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

And without him, they aren't even relevant to the conversation.

They were 10-6 last year. Is 12-4 that much better if you know Favre can't get you to the promise land?

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by DataKing

Somebody give me a reason to keep watching this train wreck.

My reason: Zorn might come up with some even crazier shit.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Reading the story about it today and going back to the earlier game against the Packers when the Vikings were trying to run out the clock and Favre audibled out of a run play and threw an incompletion, I cannot understand why people love this guy.

If anyone else confronted their coach like Favre did in these situations, they would be trashed left and right. With Favre, it's excused and even worshipped. He's a self-centered ego maniac who happens to be a talented QB. There is no way the Vikings will win the Super Bowl and he's the reason. He will kill this team at some point with his ego and poor decision making, and I won't feel sorry for him or the Vikings one bit. They knew what they were getting.

Has Favre abused you in some way?

Whether or not he is an ego maniac the coach doesnt ask one of the top 5 MVP candidates to come out of the game leading 7-6 with a home field playoff game on the line. Would you respect that moron Childress?

[mauchow]

And to think the Vikings won't win a Super Bowl because of him? There will be a lot more holding the Vikings back than Favre. Childress will be the one who ends up having a bigger impact, unfortunately.

IF the Vikings can avoid playing outside after the first round, they'll be JUST FINE and have a very good chance at getting to the Super Bowl. I WILL start to worry if they lose again next Monday night against the Bears IF the Eagles win, Cowboys lose and Giants win. That will give me the willies.

[DataKing]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

My reason: Zorn might come up with some even crazier shit.

Listening to Gruden bash on Walt Coleman might make it worthwhile too.

[Fonzie]

Is this kind of play calling still in Zorn's job description?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Has Favre abused you in some way?

Whether or not he is an ego maniac the coach doesnt ask one of the top 5 MVP candidates to come out of the game leading 7-6 with a home field playoff game on the line. Would you respect that moron Childress?

No, but the coach should have benched his ass agains tthe Packers when he audible dot that dumb pass when time and a run play were mor eimportnat. Childress said he was going to bench Farve then, he let his OC talk him out of hit, Farve heard later and got pissed. Childress was totally in his right to bench Farve if he does soemthing than what he was told, and should nat have let his OC talk him down.

[mauchow]

Running the ball on 3rd and 9 with over 3 minutes to go isn't always the right call, even if you're up by 10. I'd pass it, but not the deep pass that Favre threw. They were having so much success passing that day that they shouldn't have been running the ball at all.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I don't know which part of the play was my favorite:

* Where the entire line flanked out to the right;
* The moment the kicker went into motion;
* The part where with one blocker the punter nearly got his ass handed to him by three rushers;
* The moment when the punter threw the hail mary pass;
* When you realized that none of the Redskins where running a pass pattern to try and catch the hail mary pass; or
* The near TD the Giants got out of that cluster.

That play should be in the dictionary next to "monkey fucking a football."

I was actually impressed that Smith (the holder/punter) got up after throwing the pass and was in on the tackle (or at least slowed him down).

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

No, but the coach should have benched his ass agains tthe Packers when he audible dot that dumb pass when time and a run play were mor eimportnat. Childress said he was going to bench Farve then, he let his OC talk him out of hit, Farve heard later and got pissed. Childress was totally in his right to bench Farve if he does soemthing than what he was told, and should nat have let his OC talk him down.

If the coach cant handle who he brought in he should be fired. What did he expect? Favre has been taken out of the game early 6 times this year. If Favre wants to over rule a foolish coach that thinks he needs to bench his MVP in close games I dont blame Favre one bit.

Can you imagine Caldwell trying to bench Manning up 7-6 in a position to clinch a home field playoff spot or up 10 against a division rival? I'm thinking Caldwell would be packing his bags and Manning would be staying in the game.

[Abe Sargent]

If you can;t win the game at least win the fight!

[aran]

What were the refs thinking with their call on that fight? If anyone should've gotten flags, it should've been Jacobs first.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

If the coach cant handle who he brought in he should be fired. What did he expect? Favre has been taken out of the game early 6 times this year. If Favre wants to over rule a foolish coach that thinks he needs to bench his MVP in close games I dont blame Favre one bit.

Can you imagine Caldwell trying to bench Manning up 7-6 in a position to clinch a home field playoff spot or up 10 against a division rival? I'm thinking Caldwell would be packing his bags and Manning would be staying in the game.

I didn;t defend pulling Farve is anything else, I'm just saying that Farve's audible to a deep pass when up by ten and the coach and OC want you to run out the clock is bad, you do as your coach says. Childress should have followed his gut and benched Favre, and remind him who is in charge. We all know Favre was going for more blood against the Packers, for personal reasons, and he would have been justifired, then, not in any other plac,e but then to remind Favre that the game is about the team, not his personal vendetta.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Lots of snowballs on the field in Philly. You stay classy Eagles fans.

I see Brandon Jacobs is being classy.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Childress should have followed his gut and benched Favre, and remind him who is in charge.

I agree with you in principle, however there would be considerable pouting solicited by move. And when Brett Favre pouts, texts about feeling unappreciated get send to Chris Mortensen, "rumors" of dissatisfaction and locker room splits begin appearing in the press, Bus Cook chimes in out of nowhere with a "nothing's wrong" comment (which can only mean that something is quite wrong), and contemplations of retirement begin. The Viking's next destination is Distractionville.

Childress is really the dumbass in this scenario. He knew what he was getting in Favre, so he should know better than to be playing with this particular fire.