College Football Week 14 (Conference Championship Week) discussion

[Dr. Sak]

Alabama is in the title game no matter what.

[JonInMiddleGA]

MF butterfingered receivers

[Radii]

cannot believe jones dropped that, UGH. Good kick though, 7-3 clemson

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Wait, so is the conventional wisdom that if some how the Bo Pellinis knock off Texas, that Cincy will jump TCU to get into the title game?

If that's now the CW it's news to me.

And if Texas does win, will that mean a BCS game with Cincy and TCU?

Do you mean games for both of them? In that case yes.
If you mean against each other, I don't think I've heard any version that didn't have one of them heading to the Orange vs the ACC champ.

[RendeR]

Yeah I'm not sure there's a scenario where Cincy would play TCU. They'll both get BCS games but certainly not against one another.

[RainMaker]

I'd rather not see TCU in the Orange Bowl. They are the 2nd best team in the country and I'd rather see them go up against someone like Florida.

Is there a rule about playing the same team you played in the season? If Clemson wins, TCU has already beaten them. Not a big fan of rematches.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I'd rather not see TCU in the Orange Bowl. They are the 2nd best team in the country and I'd rather see them go up against someone like Florida.

Is there a rule about playing the same team you played in the season? If Clemson wins, TCU has already beaten them. Not a big fan of rematches.

Nope. The Orange got stuck with a FSU-Miami rematch earlier in the decade because they had last pick.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by panerd

Why is wanting him for your program your counter argument to him crying? He is a man. You learn when you lose in checkers at age 4 that isn't neccessary to cry every time you lose and if you really do have to cry to do it in private.

ummm, what?

I never equated the two.

Originally Posted by Jon

I'm lucky becuase my g/f has become just as big a college football fan as I am, maybe more (ever since she had fun at the Army-Rutgers game a few years ago and the USF-Rutgers game in Tampa last year). When Cincinnati played West Virginia, she cancelled some other plans so we could watch it. I was at the Rutgers game today while she was in Flordia and she kept texting me how she won't miss such a big game again since she had a hard time finding it on XM radio (she has use/lose time and swears she won't use it around a big Rutgers home game again). She also felt the need to text me updates about the Pitt-Cincinnati game and reminded me that we want Nebraska to win tonite because of the Big East. I'm very lucky.

I am actually pretty lucky. She is a big Giants fan and in general very tolerable. It's just that she is pregnant and a little cranky these days.

[Dr. Sak]

Let's just assume Texas wins.

Sugar and the Fiesta get the first two picks since they lose their auto bids to the BCS title game.

Rose has Oregon vs Ohio State
Orange gets the ACC winner.

Sugar will most likely take Florida. Fiesta takes TCU.

Hold on i need another beer...be back for more.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by panerd

I am probably guilty of being one who cans on athletes for the "other stuff". I love Kurt Warner, he is a great QB and to thid day a great man in the community here in St. Louis. That doesn't mean that he has to preach about God for something as trivial as sports. I am pretty sure the truly devoted are on missions in third world countires to save people who are dying and hoping that God comes with them instead of floating on the 50 yard line at the Superdome helping you win over the Titans because Steve McNair is a sinner.

Perhaps you should read more about Tebow.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Alabama is in the title game no matter what.

Thanks for the news Dan Rather

[mauchow]

Nebraska's Defense looking decent so far. Force about 10 more turnovers and they might win this one.

[Dr. Sak]

After that it goes...

Orange, Fiesta, Sugar.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by panerd

Why is wanting him for your program your counter argument to him crying? He is a man. You learn when you lose in checkers at age 4 that isn't neccessary to cry every time you lose and if you really do have to cry to do it in private.

I think you strongly underestimate how many people cry when they realize the end is there. Seniors in high school with their last games. Seniors in college with their last games. In Tebow's case, I think he realizes he is never going to be a player in the NFL like he is in college and he realizes this is the end of football for him. I can all but guarantee half of a team that loses a super bowl cries unless they've won one before.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Thanks for the news Dan Rather

Unlike Dan Rather I speak the truth

[Lathum]

dola- The fact that Washington didn't finish winnable games against Notre Dame and UCLA and totally shit the bed against Arizona St is killing me. We look great right now and should be headed for a bowl. I know it is a long shot but I really hope Jake comes back.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Unlike Dan Rather I speak the truth

[tarcone]

GO NEBRASKA

[Young Drachma]

Looked at the bowl projections at SI and ESPN after I posted and got it now.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by tarcone

GO NEBRASKA

If you want Iowa to go to a BCS game, you don't want Nebraska winning.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by rowech

I think you strongly underestimate how many people cry when they realize the end is there. Seniors in high school with their last games. Seniors in college with their last games. In Tebow's case, I think he realizes he is never going to be a player in the NFL like he is in college and he realizes this is the end of football for him. I can all but guarantee half of a team that loses a super bowl cries unless they've won one before.

I have seen more than a few draft projections that have him in the top 20. He could be an NFL starter immedaitely in some of them. What exactly is the end here?

[tarcone]

I prefer a TCU/Alabama Championship game to Iowa in the Fiesta

[Swaggs]

What's the highest Clemson could move up if they win this game?

It would be strange to have an unranked team in the BCS.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

What's the highest Clemson could move up if they win this game? It would be strange to have an unranked team in the BCS.

Well they're already 25th in the AP poll so that one would be covered.
I would think they become the obvious choice to replace Houston in the USA Today poll.

[JonInMiddleGA]

With Claytor leaving (at least for a play), I believe that leaves GT down to one offensive tackle.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

What's the highest Clemson could move up if they win this game?

It would be strange to have an unranked team in the BCS.

But isn't this what playoff system people love? George Mason in the final four. The 15 seeds winning, the 16 seeds playing close. Upsets!!! But in college football we have to have the best teams in the final. Doesn't jibe with why they want a playoff at all.

(Not saying this is your agument either, just saying I don't understand the BCS opponents complaining about play-in games. The NCAA tournament has a few of those every year.)

[bronconick]

This is going to be one of those games where the Nebraska defense kicks around the offense all the long way back up to Lincoln for hanging them out to dry one too many times.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by panerd

I have seen more than a few draft projections that have him in the top 20. He could be an NFL starter immedaitely in some of them. What exactly is the end here?

Please show me where the projections you're reading are. I have yet to see him in the first two rounds.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sterling performance by the OL so far, and I don't think any of those penalties were on the emergency OT were they?

Meanwhile Blair hitting long FG's? Can Armageddon be far away?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by rowech

Please show me where the projections you're reading are. I have yet to see him in the first two rounds.

Well it took me just under a minute with Google. No idea who/what this projection comes from or how credible it is but ...
Draft Countdown - 2010 NFL Mock Draft

edit to add:
And another
http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2009/...fl-mock-draft/

[tarcone]

Would TCU really be denied the chanpionship game? Or Cinci? Or Boise St.?

[rowech]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Well it took me just under a minute with Google. No idea who/what this projection comes from or how credible it is but ...
Draft Countdown - 2010 NFL Mock Draft

Yeah...I guess I should say someone who is generally considered an NFL draft guy.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by rowech

Yeah...I guess I should say someone who is generally considered an NFL draft guy.

Is The Sporting News mainstream enough for you?
They had him #9 overall as of October (only available to War Room subscribers apparently, so I can't see the latest one)

edit to add: I found a newer one. It has him out of the first round but notes that the Jaguars owner wants Tebow with their 1st pick
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/arti...ling-secondary

[tarcone]

But its on the interwebs

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by panerd

But isn't this what playoff system people love? George Mason in the final four. The 15 seeds winning, the 16 seeds playing close. Upsets!!! But in college football we have to have the best teams in the final. Doesn't jibe with why they want a playoff at all.

(Not saying this is your agument either, just saying I don't understand the BCS opponents complaining about play-in games. The NCAA tournament has a few of those every year.)

I think it's silly to compare George Mason to Clemson. Clemson is still a major program that has been ranked a good portion of the year and is one of the best teams in a major conference.

And in a playoff, the best teams usually end up in the end. You rarely have teams like George Mason in a Final Four. Football also has much less major upsets. In FCS, D2, and D3, the best teams are almost always in late rounds. The difference being that those teams played their way in vs had some reporters guess as to whether they were good enough.

[JonInMiddleGA]

LOL, my son just turned and said (in his best announcer voice) "it's almost time to throw the football in the can during the most entertaining halftime show in sports"

Think Dr. Pepper has gotten some mileage out of those things?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Is The Sporting News mainstream enough for you?
They had him #9 overall as of October (only available to War Room subscribers apparently, so I can't see the latest one)

edit to add: I found a newer one. It has him out of the first round but notes that the Jaguars owner wants Tebow with their 1st pick
Mock draft: Mays the solution for Giants' struggling secondary? - Russ Lande, War Room scouts - NFL - Sporting News

I think he'll get drafted but it'll just be a publicity stunt. He'll never be a starting NFL QB.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I think he'll get drafted but it'll just be a publicity stunt. He'll never be a starting NFL QB.

{shrug} Lots of great college QB's aren't.

But I'd sure rather have him on my sideline in 2010 as a lot of backups, much less clipboard guys.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- The fact that Washington didn't finish winnable games against Notre Dame and UCLA and totally shit the bed against Arizona St is killing me. We look great right now and should be headed for a bowl. I know it is a long shot but I really hope Jake comes back.

^^^^^^

[JonInMiddleGA]

WTF with the drops?

[rowech]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

LOL, my son just turned and said (in his best announcer voice) "it's almost time to throw the football in the can during the most entertaining halftime show in sports"

Think Dr. Pepper has gotten some mileage out of those things?

I don't know but I loved watching the punk from the SEC title game end up losing to a girl. Classic.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by rowech

I don't know but I loved watching the punk from the SEC title game end up losing to a girl. Classic.

Me too

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by rowech

I don't know but I loved watching the punk from the SEC title game end up losing to a girl. Classic.

It was a sign of things to come...since the guy was a Gator fan.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Jon

Shitty weather has been par for the course for Rutgers homes games this year. Not counting the FIU game (since I didn't go), every Rutgers home game has had bad weather or bad weather forecast.

But it was entertaining watching the 50-50 draw being done three times b/c some moron decided not to bother with 23K.

BTW, where were you sitting? Did you get drenched? Fortunately I was dry as a bone under the cover in section 109. It was disappointing watching half the stadium leave.

Haha, loved that two people lost out on $23+ grand because they left. Serves them right.

I sit in section 130, which started as the young alumni section and has largely remained that but is now open to everyone. The seats are pretty good overall, and it's nice to be right next to the big student section now...but good lord do they suck with the weather sometimes. For the Fresno State game last year, when it was about 95 degrees, we also had the benefit of the blazing sun being on us from kickoff until about halfway through the 4th quarter. And today, the snow/rain was blowing right into us the whole time (probably another reason you stayed dry across the way).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Random trivia time -- Scott Blair has played in 25 games at GT. He's hit three FG's in a game only twice: against Clemson earlier this year & tonight.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

{shrug} Lots of great college QB's aren't.

But I'd sure rather have him on my sideline in 2010 as a lot of backups, much less clipboard guys.

A lot of mocks have him picked by the Jags, which wouldn't be a crazy pick at all given their location and need to draw fans.

[RainMaker]

I know their defense is good, but how the hell did Nebraska get in this game? I know the Big 12 sucks and it's a home game for Texas, but they aren't going to put up 100 yards.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I know their defense is good, but how the hell did Nebraska get in this game? I know the Big 12 sucks and it's a home game for Texas, but they aren't going to put up 100 yards.

Nebraska's offense is absolutely horrible. That's not to say Texas' defense isn't good; it is. But if Nebraska even had a decent offense, this could be a game. Unfortunately, it won't be. My guess is Texas wins by 2 TDs at least.

[RainMaker]

Just amazes me how bad the Big 12 is. Crazy how people will be voting Texas over Cincinnati when Texas will end up playing one ranked team all season.

[mauchow]

I dunno..

I could definitely see some votes get taken away from Texas and given to the other undefeated teams. Will be interesting to see how they do vote if Nebraska somehow keeps it close to the end.