Big Brother 9:Till Death Do You Part (Spoilers tags all up in dis motha!)

[Jas_lov]

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Cringer, they've been doing this for years. They did it last year with Dick and this year with James. They tailor the competitions to keep the more interesting players around. Crazy James is a gay porn star so he'll do just about anything including drinking anything.

Adam needs to tell Natalie to shut the fuck up and leave Chelsia alone. Does Natalie realize that Chelsia will be on the jury? She's always up in the HOH room and she's dragging Adam down. Shut the fuck up! I really hope either Natalie or James goes home next week.

[Cringer]

Best fight ever for laugh value. Simple spoiler, just the names....

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Chelsia and Natalie, with Josh behind a door trying to give Chelsia lines

[Thomkal]

this is all the way down on page 3, what's the matter with you people? I think the strangest thing in the house the past few days was Natalie's "Prophecy of Eight" came true when Evel Dick went into the house. I like how she's not collapsed into a ball of goo since Matt's gone, and trying to play the game more. Like when she tried to convince Adam to put Josh up. That would have been stupid of course-they need to break up James and Chelsia, but at least she's trying now rather than relying on Matt.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

this is all the way down on page 3, what's the matter with you people? I think the strangest thing in the house the past few days was Natalie's "Prophecy of Eight" came true when Evel Dick went into the house. I like how she's not collapsed into a ball of glue since Matt's gone, and trying to play the game more. Like when she tried to convince Adam to put Josh up. That would have been stupid of course-they need to break up James and Chelsia, but at least she's trying now rather than relying on Matt.

Well, my only problem with the Prophecy of Eight thing is that it was a good guess. The dumbass has prophecies every day and most are way off. She has been saying for weeks she was going to win the next comp, she can feel it, it's her time. Hasn't won anything. Eventually, if you keep saying things over and over though you may be right. It also helped that Evel Dick hosting a show had been talked about among HGs since the show started. And Natalie has been counting crap in the house for over a month as well.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but editing made that look better then it was. Natalie is just plain insane.

[Jas_lov]

Reading through the updates from earlier today, Natalie said that she's going to win HOH this week because there will be 7 people left, her birthday is on November 7th, something about the bible, and 7 is her favorite number. So if she does win tonight, maybe she is a prophet. But I tend to agree with most others that she's just delusional.

[MikeVic]

So I'm watching today's, and missed yesterday's... what the hell happened to Chelsia?? She's wacko.

[Dunleavy]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

... what the hell happened to Chelsia??

James

[Jas_lov]

Oh my God. She actually won. This is now 2 predictions she's gotten right. Good for Natalie. She deserves it. Maybe they can finally get James out this week.

[Cringer]

She deserves it? Seriously? What makes her deserve it, the stupidity? Maybe how she likes to throw the bible in everyone's face yet has 'sinned' more then anyone in the house, both before and since entering the house? Maybe because she is a first class liar and everyone in the house talks about how she just makes crap up? Seriously, I don't mind someone winning HoH and sending James or Joshuah home, but Natalie winning it just ruined the show for the next week because it just made it pretty predictable.

James and Josh go up, or they try to backdoor James. And I can hear all week how God wanted her to win HoH so she can get vengeance on James for what he did to Matty.

[Cringer]

BTW, what drives me nuts about most the people in this game is how they try to act like they are above anything the other people do, but do the same thing.

[Jas_lov]

She deserves it because she dominated the challenge. Everyone else was 2 or more spaces behind her until the last question. Who would have thought Natalie would win a question challenge? She came through in the clutch. Josh and James didn't so one of them will be going home unless they win POV.

People acting above everyone else drives me nuts too and that's why I hated James's post HOH speech about keeping his word unlike everybody else in the house. He was acting above everybody else and he ended up doing the same thing. Natalie does this with the bible. Jameka and Amber were the worst last year with all of the God talk and it was hilarious watching Dick call them out on it.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by Cringer

BTW, what drives me nuts about most the people in this game is how they try to act like they are above anything the other people do, but do the same thing.

This is what annoys me most with James. For being a non-conformist-type, he sure does hold silly grudges against people. He reminds me of a selfish little prick...which I think is perfectly fine to be in the context of BB...but geez, he acts like he's on some moral plane that everybody but him falls short of.

But yeah...they all act like that at times, which is just silly.

On a side note, I have to say...as much as I think he's an arrogant pompus ass...Joshua is actually becoming pretty entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I like people who are there to "play the game".

[korme]

James & Josh could not be happy.

[MikeVic]

I hate Josh and want him gone.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by SteveMax58

This is what annoys me most with James. For being a non-conformist-type, he sure does hold silly grudges against people. He reminds me of a selfish little prick...which I think is perfectly fine to be in the context of BB...but geez, he acts like he's on some moral plane that everybody but him falls short of.

But yeah...they all act like that at times, which is just silly.

On a side note, I have to say...as much as I think he's an arrogant pompus ass...Joshua is actually becoming pretty entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I like people who are there to "play the game".

Exactly. James is the biggest hypocrite of them all. I did like how he called Chelsia a raging bitch though. Chelsia got bitter because people saw her and James as a threat and wanted to take them out. I hated when she said it was because people were jealous of James and Chelsia. Nobody was jealous of them. She got outplayed, period end of story.

I don't mind Josh. I think he's playing pretty well so far. He hasn't been on the block and Sharon is his bitch. It may come to an end this week though. I don't really see Adam, Ryan, Sheila, and Natalie turning on each other until they have to.

[Bad-example]

James was lucky enough to have a second chance and he wasted it on petty revenge. I suspect he took it too personally when he was voted out. He not only screwed himself but Chelsea as well, and it isn't any shock that she would be bitter. I am glad they managed to get that scumbag Matt out, but it is a shame James didn't play the game better. It would have been much better television.

I don't like anyone in this house. I guess I dislike Ryan the least.

[korme]

I am definitely pulling for A-BALLER at this point

[MikeVic]

Yeah, I thought A-BALLER was ok before today. I liked him giving the money to Sheila. And then they show this little special on him today, and I'm pulling for him now.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

I don't like anyone in this house. I guess I dislike Ryan the least.

I feel the same way this year. I think Ryan might be the only one I could tolerate for an hour.

Although A-Baller might be pretty fun to be around. Probably good for some laughs(both "with" and "at").

[Bad-example]

Adam may be bug-eyed and freakish, and he may sound like an idiot when he gets excited, but he isn't nearly as annoying as most of the others. I would be fine with him winning.

[Dunleavy]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

James was lucky enough to have a second chance and he wasted it on petty revenge.

yep. maybe Chelsia should have reminded him he can't nominate everyone in the house in one week so there's no need to threaten half the house. James way overplayed his hand. and another thing he is not a good competitor, he can win things through will when he needs to but is terrible in all other competitions. oh, and he's a big hypocrite as well. all that said i'm rooting for him the most

with the last two HOH's the house has lost it's balance. i guess we suffer through Nat, say good bye to James, and move into a new phase of the game. Hopefully Sharron or josh wins the next HOH

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by SteveMax58

This is what annoys me most with James. For being a non-conformist-type, he sure does hold silly grudges against people. He reminds me of a selfish little prick...which I think is perfectly fine to be in the context of BB...but geez, he acts like he's on some moral plane that everybody but him falls short of.

But yeah...they all act like that at times, which is just silly.

On a side note, I have to say...as much as I think he's an arrogant pompus ass...Joshua is actually becoming pretty entertaining to me. Maybe it's because I like people who are there to "play the game".

I am a big James mark, he is just the kind of guy I would get along and I have wanted him to win. With that said, he screwed up bigtime when he backdoored Matt. Nobody will trust him, and it was his own doing. I loved seeing Matt go, but the smart move would have been happy seeing Ryan go and letting it go at that.

James has actually been one of the more straight forward and honest with people in the house. If he isn't then you will see him just keep his mouth shut sometimes. He killed himself with his one main move in the game though and unless he wins PoV then he will be gone this week.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Well, my only problem with the Prophecy of Eight thing is that it was a good guess. The dumbass has prophecies every day and most are way off. She has been saying for weeks she was going to win the next comp, she can feel it, it's her time. Hasn't won anything. Eventually, if you keep saying things over and over though you may be right. It also helped that Evel Dick hosting a show had been talked about among HGs since the show started. And Natalie has been counting crap in the house for over a month as well.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but editing made that look better then it was. Natalie is just plain insane.

Oh I wasn't really saying I was taking her Prophecy of Eight seriously, it was pretty wacky the way they showed it on the regular shows. Just thought it was pretty wild when Dick came into the House to keep "fueling" it. And hey she won HoH this week so she's not 100% stupid, maybe just 90.

[Scarecrow]

Please don't make fun of Natalie - she has old timers.


Anyway, after this week she is D-U-N done!

[MikeVic]

I just think Natalie is very misinformed, that's all. She seems like a good person.

[Jas_lov]

I'm hoping that once James is gone we'll see some real gameplay and alliance shifting. As long as James is around, he'll always be the biggest threat and the person everyone wants gone. But once he's gone, who is it?

Without Josh, Sharon might go to Natalie and Sheila and suddenly it's girls vs. boys so I think Ryan and Adam should vote Sharon out over Josh if it comes to that. It's best to get Sharon and Natalie out before the next endurance challenge anyway. Josh, Ryan, and Adam should make a deal to the final 3. Get James out first, then Natalie and Sharon, then Sheila because she's the weakest.

[korme]

She didn't even say old timers, the common misconception. She kept saying All-timers!

[korme]

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James goes off on Sheila hardcore but now I am so used to his shit that I wouldn't buy it. All he does is make people feel bad for him and then act like he will persevere anyway and he never did anything wrong and if he did there was a good reason for it. Anyway, he was all up in her face callin her a cunt bitch but Sheila held her own I guess. Then he comes in and does, in a less aggressive manner, the same thing to Natalie and Ryan and Adam both step in a little bit, Ryan calmly, Adam off the walls. Great stuff. Oh and if he doesn't win the PoV, there is no getting around it: he'll be going home.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

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James goes off on Sheila hardcore but now I am so used to his shit that I wouldn't buy it. All he does is make people feel bad for him and then act like he will persevere anyway and he never did anything wrong and if he did there was a good reason for it. Anyway, he was all up in her face callin her a cunt bitch but Sheila held her own I guess. Then he comes in and does, in a less aggressive manner, the same thing to Natalie and Ryan and Adam both step in a little bit, Ryan calmly, Adam off the walls. Great stuff. Oh and if he doesn't win the PoV, there is no getting around it: he'll be going home.

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Like James says, he is the target of everyone until he is gone. And yeah, going off on people at this point is not really working. Everyone is so full of shit towards each other that it has no effect really. Example; Natalie has now denied her BJ's to Matt for the thousandth time. Everyone in the world knows there was 4 of them, Ryan and Adam were in the same room and heard two of them with their own ears. Yet they sit there and let her deny it without ever calling her out on it. When Chelsia called her out on everything, and said to Natalie what everyone says behind her back, Chelsia was labeled a crazy immature bitch. So yeah, it won't really work for James at this point....

[Cringer]

nominations and PoV comp spoilers...

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For those who didn't know, the nominations were James and Josh.

Woo-fucking-Hoo!! James won the PoV for the third straight time and of course he will take himself off. This means Josh is a sure lock to go home I would think, he certainly thinks so.

Sounds like the comp was some kind of guessing how much is in this or that, how much something weighs. Hard to tell.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Cringer

nominations and PoV comp spoilers...

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For those who didn't know, the nominations were James and Josh.

Woo-fucking-Hoo!! James won the PoV for the third straight time and of course he will take himself off. This means Josh is a sure lock to go home I would think, he certainly thinks so.

Sounds like the comp was some kind of guessing how much is in this or that, how much something weighs. Hard to tell.

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After last night's outburst, I'm glad he won and I hope he keeps calling Sheila a cunt. Sheila doesn't deserve to be there and she needs to go. But someone will drag her to the end because she's worthless.

I wouldn't be so quick to count Josh out. If Sharon goes up instead, Josh can get Ryan, Adam, and James. We know about Ryan and Josh's secret alliance. Ryan might be able to convince Adam to keep Josh. They don't want this to turn into boys vs. girls. Josh should make a deal with Ryan and Adam that he'll put James and Sheila or Natalie on the block.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

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After last night's outburst, I'm glad he won and I hope he keeps calling Sheila a cunt. Sheila doesn't deserve to be there and she needs to go. But someone will drag her to the end because she's worthless.

I wouldn't be so quick to count Josh out. If Sharon goes up instead, Josh can get Ryan, Adam, and James. We know about Ryan and Josh's secret alliance. Ryan might be able to convince Adam to keep Josh. They don't want this to turn into boys vs. girls. Josh should make a deal with Ryan and Adam that he'll put James and Sheila or Natalie on the block.

Ryan can be a smart boy sometimes, your scenario is already in the works as of a short time ago. Going to be an interesting week after all.

[Cringer]

doh...interesting thing just happened Jas...

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James has not been rubbing it in at all, been very friendly which is kind of his way except for his blow up. Anyways, as I said Josh and Ryan already talked about Josh staying and Ryan had suggested it to Adam just before that actually. It could happen for sure. BUT!

Josh was major down and quiet until the last 15 minutes and the talking with Ryan, and he actually had Natalie say (not sure I believe her) that if he got 2 votes she would break the tie and keep him over Sharon. But Josh is thinking anyways that Ryan could get Adam to do vote for him, and he has James. Josh all of the sudden starts feeling good, and it is showing on the outside. Possible mistake on his part.....

Sharon, Josh, James, and Sheila are in the kitchen. I think James noticed the change in Josh after his being away in the back rooms, and he turned to Sheila and said out of nowhere "You know what Sheila, I don't think it matters what happens you and I are always going to be out on an island by ourselves vote wise." The look on Josh's face was pretty good for a second. James has a pretty good idea Josh is not on his side as much as he thought before I think. This game could go several directions at this point.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Cringer

doh...interesting thing just happened Jas...

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James has not been rubbing it in at all, been very friendly which is kind of his way except for his blow up. Anyways, as I said Josh and Ryan already talked about Josh staying and Ryan had suggested it to Adam just before that actually. It could happen for sure. BUT!

Josh was major down and quiet until the last 15 minutes and the talking with Ryan, and he actually had Natalie say (not sure I believe her) that if he got 2 votes she would break the tie and keep him over Sharon. But Josh is thinking anyways that Ryan could get Adam to do vote for him, and he has James. Josh all of the sudden starts feeling good, and it is showing on the outside. Possible mistake on his part.....

Sharon, Josh, James, and Sheila are in the kitchen. I think James noticed the change in Josh after his being away in the back rooms, and he turned to Sheila and said out of nowhere "You know what Sheila, I don't think it matters what happens you and I are always going to be out on an island by ourselves vote wise." The look on Josh's face was pretty good for a second. James has a pretty good idea Josh is not on his side as much as he thought before I think. This game could go several directions at this point.

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The updates say James just went up to HOH and Natalie told him the plan. Now Ryan and Natalie are proposing a final 4 deal with James! Josh would be involved in that as well and they'll throw Adam and Sheila under the bus! Hopefully we'll finally see some real strategy and alliance shifting.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

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The updates say James just went up to HOH and Natalie told him the plan. Now Ryan and Natalie are proposing a final 4 deal with James! Josh would be involved in that as well and they'll throw Adam and Sheila under the bus! Hopefully we'll finally see some real strategy and alliance shifting.

I just hit refresh to tell you that. haha. I just watched that.

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I don't want to give too much away in my happiness so I need to spoiler this. James winning PoV not only kept him in the house, but it looks like it just blew everything in the house up. It is fucking beautiful, this game just got tons better for a week or two at least.

One interesting thing, right when James was in the HoH room Josh was in the kitchen with Sharon and Sheila. Sharon started crying because Josh was talking about how it's impossible to go against her and she is the ultimate pawn, he is a goner, blahblahblah. Sharon is going to be a little surprised.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Cringer

I just hit refresh to tell you that. haha. I just watched that.

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I don't want to give too much away in my happiness so I need to spoiler this. James winning PoV not only kept him in the house, but it looks like it just blew everything in the house up. It is fucking beautiful, this game just got tons better for a week or two at least.

One interesting thing, right when James was in the HoH room Josh was in the kitchen with Sharon and Sheila. Sharon started crying because Josh was talking about how it's impossible to go against her and she is the ultimate pawn, he is a goner, blahblahblah. Sharon is going to be a little surprised.

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It doesn't say in the updates I'm reading, whose idea was it to make a deal with James? If it was Ryan, I am very impressed at his strategies. So far, the best move in the house was Ryan backdooring James. It just didn't work out because his alliance was stupid. But now Ryan is covering his ass no matter who wins HOH. If Adam wins, everything is cool and they target James. If James or Josh wins, he's now covered. Who knows with Sheila but she'll never win anything. The secret alliance with James and Josh is brilliant.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

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It doesn't say in the updates I'm reading, whose idea was it to make a deal with James? If it was Ryan, I am very impressed at his strategies. So far, the best move in the house was Ryan backdooring James. It just didn't work out because his alliance was stupid. But now Ryan is covering his ass no matter who wins HOH. If Adam wins, everything is cool and they target James. If James or Josh wins, he's now covered. Who knows with Sheila but she'll never win anything. The secret alliance with James and Josh is brilliant.

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I am not sure 100% whose idea it was. I would have to say Ryan though. The guy shows some good gameplay at times and I am sure Natalie took him right up on it.

[Jas_lov]

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I'm not sure there is a deal anymore. It's hard to tell what side Natalie is on. I don't think Ryan is really going to throw Adam under the bus. He just wants to keep himself safe and still be able to save Adam next week. He has to pretend that he's turning on Adam and convince James that Adam and Sheila are working together in case James or Josh does win HOH.

If James or Josh wins HOH and nominates Adam and Sheila as planned, Ryan and Natalie can save Adam 2-1. Then it's Adam, Ryan, and Natalie vs. just one of James and Josh for the next HOH. I don't think James and Josh would be that stupid though and they'd put up some combo of Adam, Ryan, and Natalie. The key for Ryan is getting Sheila nominated because they can send her home 2-1. But Josh might not even stay anymore depending on how Adam votes and what Natalie does if it's a tie. It's hard to tell at this point.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

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I'm not sure there is a deal anymore. It's hard to tell what side Natalie is on. I don't think Ryan is really going to throw Adam under the bus. He just wants to keep himself safe and still be able to save Adam next week. He has to pretend that he's turning on Adam and convince James that Adam and Sheila are working together in case James or Josh does win HOH.

If James or Josh wins HOH and nominates Adam and Sheila as planned, Ryan and Natalie can save Adam 2-1. Then it's Adam, Ryan, and Natalie vs. just one of James and Josh for the next HOH. I don't think James and Josh would be that stupid though and they'd put up some combo of Adam, Ryan, and Natalie. The key for Ryan is getting Sheila nominated because they can send her home 2-1. But Josh might not even stay anymore depending on how Adam votes and what Natalie does if it's a tie. It's hard to tell at this point.

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Oh yeah, well the deal as it started out lasted about 4 hours or so. Then Natalie decided to let her true piece of crap colors show once again and has decided to stab everyone in the back. She told Sharon and Sheila everything, and they still plan on trying to get Josh out and then having the 3 woman alliance. So Natalie is now lying to Ryan, Josh, James, and Adam, her former enemies and partners. Pretty weird shit. Adam is the floater, since he has been left out of everything and all sides want to convince him to go their way without filling him in as to what is going on.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Cringer

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Oh yeah, well the deal as it started out lasted about 4 hours or so. Then Natalie decided to let her true piece of crap colors show once again and has decided to stab everyone in the back. She told Sharon and Sheila everything, and they still plan on trying to get Josh out and then having the 3 woman alliance. So Natalie is now lying to Ryan, Josh, James, and Adam, her former enemies and partners. Pretty weird shit. Adam is the floater, since he has been left out of everything and all sides want to convince him to go their way without filling him in as to what is going on.

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I'm not sure what Natalie's doing either. She might just trust Sharon over Josh and since she can't play HOH next week, she wants to give herself the best chance of staying safe. Natalie would only have to worry about James winning HOH if Sharon is kept. I don't think Natalie trusts Josh or James at all and rightfully so. She's working on Adam right now. Josh keeps planting little seeds of the game turning into boys vs. girls if he's voted out. The girls should probably stop meeting together in the HOH room.

edit: Ryan just told Adam and Natalie he's on board with keeping Sharon. He said Sharon told him she'd put James up if she won HOH. They're going to keep it quiet to surprise Josh and fluster James before HOH. Might have to wait until Ryan and Adam are alone to see if this is the real plan, or just what they're telling Natalie.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

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I'm not sure what Natalie's doing either. She might just trust Sharon over Josh and since she can't play HOH next week, she wants to give herself the best chance of staying safe. Natalie would only have to worry about James winning HOH if Sharon is kept. I don't think Natalie trusts Josh or James at all and rightfully so. She's working on Adam right now. Josh keeps planting little seeds of the game turning into boys vs. girls if he's voted out. The girls should probably stop meeting together in the HOH room.

edit: Ryan just told Adam and Natalie he's on board with keeping Sharon. He said Sharon told him she'd put James up if she won HOH. They're going to keep it quiet to surprise Josh and fluster James before HOH. Might have to wait until Ryan and Adam are alone to see if this is the real plan, or just what they're telling Natalie.

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It comes down to this I think. Ryan and Adam are so scared of James geting an kind of an upper hand on them that they are letting themselves being manipulated by the women of the house. Good chance they pay for it down the line.

[Jas_lov]

LOL at Josh's new plan:

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Josh read the rule book and has a new, creative idea to save himself. He's on slop and if he eats regular food, he can't participate in HOH or POV for 1 week and he is automatically nominated next week. He says they'd be stupid not to keep him and that may be the case.

If Adam, Sheila, or Ryan won HOH, they would put James up against Josh and James would go home if he were unable to win POV which would also be 4 on 1. Josh would be banking on this scenario since James would go home over him.

If James won HOH, he'd put one of them up against Josh. They'd still have 2 votes to send Josh home and James wouldn't be able to participate in HOH the next week. They'd all have a guaranteed final 5 spot.

I have no idea if this will work. Sharon's on slop too so if Josh does do this, she could just do the same thing.

edit: I think Jen did this last year and they only gave her a penatly vote. Ryan and Natalie will have to read the rules. I'm not sure if Josh is reading it correctly. If he is, it's certainly a loophole.

[SteveMax58]

Man...I only watch the shows live, and then I go back and read all the spoilers you guys leave.

But with all the spoilers in the last few days...I can tell it should be interesting tonight.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

LOL at Josh's new plan:

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Josh read the rule book and has a new, creative idea to save himself. He's on slop and if he eats regular food, he can't participate in HOH or POV for 1 week and he is automatically nominated next week. He says they'd be stupid not to keep him and that may be the case.

If Adam, Sheila, or Ryan won HOH, they would put James up against Josh and James would go home if he were unable to win POV which would also be 4 on 1. Josh would be banking on this scenario since James would go home over him.

If James won HOH, he'd put one of them up against Josh. They'd still have 2 votes to send Josh home and James wouldn't be able to participate in HOH the next week. They'd all have a guaranteed final 5 spot.

I have no idea if this will work. Sharon's on slop too so if Josh does do this, she could just do the same thing.

edit: I think Jen did this last year and they only gave her a penatly vote. Ryan and Natalie will have to read the rules. I'm not sure if Josh is reading it correctly. If he is, it's certainly a loophole.

nice.lol

Originally Posted by SteveMax58

Man...I only watch the shows live, and then I go back and read all the spoilers you guys leave.

But with all the spoilers in the last few days...I can tell it should be interesting tonight.

I am not sure you want to read the last batch of spoilers until after Tuesday's show. Everything we have been talking about will be on the Tuesday show, and possibly some on the Wednesday show. In other words, it is all post-PoV comp and the aftermath. It is good stuff though and really an interesting week. The Tuesday and Wednesday shows should be pretty good.

[Cringer]

Well crap. Josh is gone, expected. Adam wins HoH.....blah. That sucked, James and Sharon both blew it on the last question. And now Sheila is making nicey nice with Sharon and James because you just know she wants their votes if she makes it to the final two.

Ryan, Adam, and Natalie hold the power if they stay together. If the 'Girl Power' alliance is real though then Adam and Ryan are screwed if Ryan doesn't win the next HoH. Hard to tell which alliance is the REAL alliance though. So it is a toss up.

[Jas_lov]

I'm sorry Cringer, but it's time for James to go. This sob story every week has already gotten old- I'm on an island, nobody likes me, I played a terrible game and my alliance sucked, blah blah blah. I don't want to hear it anymore. All James does is lay around in his bed and we're supposed to feel sorry for him because he isolated himself by hooking up with Chelsia. James needs to go.

It's 5 on 1 in the POV again and Sharon won't throw it like she did the HOH because if James wins, she's gone. I think Ryan, Adam, and Natalie are the real alliance. Sheila would lose 7-0 if she made the final 2 and everyone knows it. She'll get carried to the finals, but she has no chance of winning.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I'm sorry Cringer, but it's time for James to go. This sob story every week has already gotten old- I'm on an island, nobody likes me, I played a terrible game and my alliance sucked, blah blah blah. I don't want to hear it anymore. All James does is lay around in his bed and we're supposed to feel sorry for him because he isolated himself by hooking up with Chelsia. James needs to go.

It's 5 on 1 in the POV again and Sharon won't throw it like she did the HOH because if James wins, she's gone. I think Ryan, Adam, and Natalie are the real alliance. Sheila would lose 7-0 if she made the final 2 and everyone knows it. She'll get carried to the finals, but she has no chance of winning.

Naaa, I am sure James is gone. I expected he would be gone by next Wednesday no matter what actually. If he doesn't win HoH, he gets put up and is gone unless he wins PoV. If we won HoH then he can't compete in the next HoH, and with a strong chance of next week being the double eviction week he would be screwed in the fast forward to get the second person out next week. His only real hope is one of two things. He wins PoV, and then gets the next HoH. Small chance. Next option, Sheila is nominated against him and Sharon wins PoV and takes him off and they are both safe. I think Sharon would do it, but I doubt we will find out.

My big problem with this is I don't really want anyone else in the house to win it. Sharon I would be fine with. Sheila might be funny to see win but she is annoying so no. I hate Natalie. Like Natalie, Adam and Ryan are full of shit with most of what they do. Adam less so I think, as he is seems like the one who is 'playing the game' the most. All those people can talk about being "the good people" all they want, but they have stabbed people in the back just as much as the others, including this last week.

This is the point where I back off the live feeds though. The house is going to be boring as hell.

[Cringer]

Doh. I was just reminded. Adam has promised Sharon in the not too distant past that he would never nominate her, because of his bond with Jacob. I wonder if that will hold true.....

[korme]

My feelings are that at this point, strategically, Ryan has played the game the best. He has strong, strong allegiances with Nat/Adam, and with them comes Sheila. He also had that talk with Sharon saying they'd protect each other and before that he had a secret alliance with Josh. He seems to be covering all of his bases, after being on the chopping block quite a bit earlier in the season.

I am fine with Adam/Baller/A-Baller/Big Baller or Ryan winning, and then after that on the flip side I wouldn't mind if James did the miraculous wins week after week and won.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Doh. I was just reminded. Adam has promised Sharon in the not too distant past that he would never nominate her, because of his bond with Jacob. I wonder if that will hold true.....

Doubt it for the reason you mentioned in your other post. If Sharon wasn't nominated with James, she would take him off the block if she won POV because she knows she becomes public enemy #1 when James leaves. He's definitely not putting Natalie and Ryan on the block. He doesn't want to listen to Sheila bitch so she's not going up unless James or Sharon wins POV and he has to put up a replacement.

I think Adam and Natalie have played the best out of their alliance. If either of those two makes it to the finals, they should win. Ryan isn't hated by anybody and he's played a decent game so he wouldn't be a bad winner either. Sharon has done little. James has been evicted once already in individual play and he's played a terrible strategic game. Sheila is worthless, but I hope she's the one who wins POV and sends James home.