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Toskala and Bell for the Leafs first, second and fourth, according to TSN.
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06-22-2007, 11:53 AM
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not sure I get that one.
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06-22-2007, 11:55 AM
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Well, trading all those picks sure freed up my weekend.
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06-22-2007, 11:55 AM
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Fergy trying to save his job....he won't be around when any 1st or 2nd rounder develops enough to help the team...he is managing for his contract.
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06-22-2007, 11:56 AM
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06-22-2007, 11:56 AM
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What are your thoughts ML? I've always liked Bell's play on the ice. Never seen enough of Toskala to get a good feel for where he's at/what he could become.
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06-22-2007, 12:05 PM
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Not really sure how I feel about this one. I don't know much about Toskala, although I liek what I hear. It will be interesting to see what they do with Raycroft now.
Bell took a big step back last year in San Jose and is rumored to have off-ice issues, so Toronto may not be a great spot for him. He's not exactly a kid any more so it's unlikely he takes a big step forward any time soon.
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06-22-2007, 12:07 PM
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plus, he makes $2 million a year. eek.
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06-22-2007, 12:10 PM
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06-22-2007, 12:11 PM
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Well, if it helps at all, the blog I'm watching today (Spector) pretty much figures the Leafs made out quite well in this one both for how much they gave up and the flexibility this gives them between the pipes, never mind the chance for the 26 year old Bell to get back to his norm after a bad year in SJ.
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06-22-2007, 12:15 PM
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I still don't see a winger for Sundin.
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06-22-2007, 12:24 PM
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that's how I see it. San Jose made out very well here. By trading their backup goalie, they get 3 picks and shave $2 million in dead weight.
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06-22-2007, 01:15 PM
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I agree. If Bell hasn't figured things out, Toronto could be a nightmare location for him. I don't even recall him playing in the Detroit/San Jose series. I know he was scratched a game or two, but even when dressed he made absolutely no impact. Both he and Calder seemed like really good, young semi-power forwards. Ever since leaving the Blackhawks, however, both have really struggled. Sort of odd.
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06-22-2007, 01:15 PM
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Sounds like the Leafs are shopping a d-man around to recoup a few picks.....
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06-22-2007, 01:45 PM
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recchi and roberts re-sign with pitt.
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06-22-2007, 02:05 PM
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06-22-2007, 02:07 PM
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06-22-2007, 02:10 PM
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white ones here.
http://www.onfrozenblog.com/
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06-22-2007, 02:14 PM
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Apparently the first round pick from the Toskala deal can be either this year's pick or the 2008 pick, at San Jose's option. They can make their decision any time before the 13th pick tonight, so they can basically wait and see if a guy they want is there. However, if they choose to pass on this year's pick, next year's pick is top ten protected for the Leafs.
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06-22-2007, 02:29 PM
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So what happens if the Sharks decide to wait until next year and it's a top ten pick? They get the following year's first unprotected?
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06-22-2007, 02:39 PM
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Colorado re-signs Tyler Arnason. I didn't expect that one at all. I figured he was gone for sure.
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Which if fine with Ferguson, because it the Leafs are that bad two full years from now he'll not only have been fired, but probably also killed and eaten.
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06-22-2007, 02:46 PM
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I e-mailed a buddy who's a Sharks fan. Here's his take on Toskala:
I predict he'll be the starter by Christmas. He was on par with Nabokov, and way cheaper. Super cool cucumber for a young guy -- nothing affects him. He looked way better than Kiprusoff ever did as a backup to Nabby. I predict Bell with be in jail by Christmas.
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06-22-2007, 02:52 PM
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Sounds about right. I've always liked Toskala, but having both him and Nabby just wasn't intelligent (at least in my mind). I look at players on the team with an economics bent, I guess. The opportunity cost of keeping Toskala on the bench instead of trading him away for value was way too high.
Bell was useless, though I (like others) had high hopes for him. It seems like this might be one of those 'everybody wins' trades. I guess it'll hinge upon whether or not Toronto can sign Toskala long term.
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06-22-2007, 03:07 PM
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to expand on this, the two big acquisitions most people think the Avs are in the running for are Peter Forsberg and Ryan Smyth. With Arnason coming back, all 4 centers are returning (Sakic, Stastny, Arnason and the surprising Ben Guite). To my mind, that seems to put the kibosh on Forsberg (or Drury, but I don't think that's ever been a viable option) and moves us more towards Smyth. who knows if I'm right, of course.
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06-22-2007, 03:07 PM
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30 is the new 20 in Toronto....players get old very fast here.
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06-22-2007, 03:30 PM
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Well, all joking aside, 30 is relatively young for a goalie. Cliff Fletcher always had a two-year rule for goalies -- they take two more years of development to get to the NHL, they hit their prime two years later than other players, and they get an extra two years of productivity at the end. Basically everything shifts out by two years. And in most cases, that holds true. It's why there are so many more great young skaters than great young goalies, and so many goalies are effective at 38+ when most skaters are done.
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Roberts 1 year at $2.5M. Which is a little shocking...not the dollar amount, but his agent kept saying he wanted a two year deal. He signs a 1 year deal before free agency even begins, without talking to Ottawa and Toronto. Recchi 1 year at $2M. Which is probably a little high. It's actually $1M base salary, plus incentives, but the total amount counts against the cap which is fine, as the Pens have room now. Even at 40, Roberts was one of the Pens best forwards in the opening round loss to Ottawa. Recchi, ideally, would be on the third line now. OK on the 2nd line in a pinch, but teams with him on the 2nd line aren't Cup contenders. Still no wing to play with Crosby or Malkin--although Roberts will play with one. Potentially, Malkin plays on Crosby's wing and Jordan Staal centers the 2nd line with Roberts. And, truly, scoring goals wasn't really a problem for them. Preventing them was. Use the cash in UFA for at least 1 D, preferably 2. ETA-- Jordan Staal still has somewhere to sleep now too. Staal lived with Recchi last season (same as Sid with Mario and Malkin with Gonchar).
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06-22-2007, 03:45 PM
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Aucoin to Calgary for Zyuzin.....i like this deal for Calgary.....nice pp point men with Phanuf and Aucoin,and with Iginla standing in front of the goalie....very nice.
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06-22-2007, 04:03 PM
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Vokoun to the Panthers for a first and two seconds.
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06-22-2007, 04:04 PM
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Huh. This could mean that the Wings will clench the Central Division by December 17.
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06-22-2007, 05:04 PM
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According to the local radio station, the Oilers don't like the price tag involved to move from #6 into the top 2, but are still heavily in play for Pitkanen and/or the rights to Gomez.
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Huh, now the reporting is that Phoenix has acquired the first pick and that Chicago will still get Kane at #3.
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In less earth-shaking trade news
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns PITTSBURGH (TICKER) -- The Pittsburgh Penguins acquired an extra pick in this weekend's draft Friday, acquiring a third-round selection from the Atlanta Thrashers for center Chris Thorburn. The deal gives the Penguins two picks (78th and 80th overall) in the third round, which will take place Saturday at Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio. The festivities begin Friday with the first-round selections. A second-round pick of Buffalo in 2001, Thorburn appeared in 39 games with Pittsburgh this past season, recording three goals and two assists. The 24-year-old made his NHL debut with the Sabres in 2005-06, notching an assist in two contests.
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Heard this on the radio just earlier. He'll crash and bang for the Thrashers. You can probably do worse than him as a 4th line C. He actually fills the 4th line center role better than the guy who will probably end up playing there, Erik Christensen. But Christensen is money in the shootout. But, seems like a steep price for a guy who the Pens grab off waivers last season.
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Any thoughts on the Preds owner pulling the team off the market?
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Penguins end up getting Angelo Esposito at #20. This time last year, most considered him the top talent in the draft. Anyone ranked that high obviously has talent.
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Wake me up when we get to the third round.
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Uhh.. you know we traded the 16th for the 19th and the 42nd right CR? So we actually end up with a pick in every round.
Shame we missed out on Gillies, I think he's going to be a very useful power forward. We also missed out on Ian Cole who is really good on EHM MacMillan has pretty good pedigree though, that's an OK pick as well IMO. And we won the cup without O'Brien, although I still think he's way better than Huskins. |
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Hmm... this may be a bad omen.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL...84597-sun.html Scroll down the part where it says Toskala likes rock music and Will Ferrell. Then read the next two lines.
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