The Hattrick Epidemic

[Neuqua]

Ugh.

This thread got me. I just signed up for a team. I'll let you guys know when I get a chance to play.

Neuqua

[samifan24]

We should all be getting royalties for this thread. It's like Hattrick propoganda.

[DataKing]

I wonder if there is any single on-line community out there that has more active Hattrick managers than FOFC.

[Doug5984]

Another question...

I noticed that you can just Fire players...Is firing a player better than trying to just sell him off for $1,000? Is there penalty for firing a player? I have a 3rd string Keeper on my team who is valued at $2,000 should I try and sell him for $1,000 or just fire him?

[samifan24]

The penalty for firing a player is $1,000 I believe. As you noted, $1,000 is also the listing fee, so if you think you can get something for the guy, then go ahead a list him but if you really think he's a dud, just get rid of him.

[vex]

Firing a player is free.

[illinifan999]

No it does cost you 1,000. If it doesnt, then I wonder where that money has been going when I fire a player. Maybe he steals it. The bastard.

[mrushh]

Doug5984, the first things I did when I got my team were:

1) find a passable keeper
2) put youth squad to 20k
3) sell ALL my players 27 years old or older, no matter what (especially the good ones)

Of course, when I got the team, we were in last place, so I figured, what the hell difference if I lose. Well, with the money I got, I now have ALL starters passable and am in 4th place (fairly handily) with 7 games in a row won or tied. It amazes me I beat people in my series. I think some Hattrickers are just stupid (I know that is hard to believe).

Anyway, the point is, if you aren't moving up in the standings, get $$$ for old players while you can (rules say players start to slide at age 27, I think). Build for the future, and listen to those on the board who are much better than I. That's what I did, and they always steer me straight.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by mrushh
Doug5984, the first things I did when I got my team were:

3) sell ALL my players 27 years old or older, no matter what (especially the good ones)

Is this one really a good thing to do? If players start declining after 27, will anyone even buy them? I have 10 players that are 27 or older, 6 of them are on my starting roster, and 1 on the reserve. My team is currently # 4 in my league division whatever thing...Is it really a good idea to just get rid of so many starting players?

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm 99% sure firing a player is free. Transfer listing him is 1000, youth pull is 2000.

[vex]

It costs $1,500 to fire a specialist, maybe that's what you all were thinking of.

[mrushh]

Doug5984, if you are #4 in your series, I would NOT sell ALL the oldsters. As i said, I was in last place when I did it and had no idea I could go undefeated for 7 straight. If you are top 4 in series, I believe there is no chance of worry about relegation whatever level you are.

In that case I would sell the worst of your old guys. You will eventually be quite surprised at the stupidity of some Hattrickers and what they pay at times. Remember, dozens of newbs come into the game EVERY DAY and lots have no clue about transfers. They see a passable and bid without looking at other important stuff.

Again, if I was in 4th, I would sell only marginal oldies and then sell others as you clinch upper half of series. Ask other FOFC folks to see what they say. That is how I did it, and it has worked so far.

[Airhog]

I see older players selling all the time. It can be quite a good move to pick up an older impact player cheap for just one season, or until his ratings go down. Also older players usually are experienced, and can also have high leadership.

[mrushh]

For those of you confused (or not), my point was, IF IN REBUILDING MODE, sell your older players.

I, too, have purchased an old dude as stopgap for, as an example, when I had a player go down for 4 weeks. He WAS cheaper, though I planned to sell him in the week when my guy came back.

[robbgmaier]

mrushh,

if you finish 5th or 6th in your division, you will have to play a match against a lower division winner to avoid relegation. Half of those teams automatically move up, the other half play a qualification match, against the 5th or 6th of a higher division. All 7th and 8th finishers go down unless they are already in the basement.

So, unless they are well clear of 5th, they can still be relegated.

rob

[mrushh]

Thanks, rob. I guess I could read all the rules, but I am REALLY too lazy to do that. It is kinda pitiful, but I'm too old to worry about it now. Just a cross I must bear with as much dignity as I can muster.

[Radii]

I just signed up for a team. Hooray.

[bbor]

I heart this thread

[Poli]

Originally posted by bbor
I heart this thread

I wondered if I would ever see that line here!

[Doug5984]

What is the lowest division? Right now I am # 4 in V.237, should I be worried about falling to Div VI? do they even have that? I was planning on going younger on my team this season in the hopes that in the next season or the season after that I will have a very good young team.

[McSweeny]

i've been reading through several hattrick threads and now i can't wait to play... wish they'd hurry up and give me my team dammnit!

[Poli]

No worry needed Doug. D5 is the lowest.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Doug5984, if you ever want to know the lowest division, just check out my team they will most likely be there. Seriously though right now the US has 5 divisions.

[DataKing]

There is the possibility of Hattrick adding a 6th division in the U.S. at the end of the coming season. But if they did this, I don't think bottom-feeder teams in Division 5 would be threatened with relegation to Division 6 this season.

[sterlingice]

Don't worry too much about it. Most usually search by ratings & completely ignore the position they're listed under.
They have positions on the transfer market?

I am the Stonecutters in USA.IV (I think I have that right). Is that good?
Wow- that's pretty impressive. I won't be seeing IV until at least next season if not 2 from now.

You freaks and your 4-5-1's.
Run and Shoot is where it's at, boys. Defense is for wimps.
I try to mix it up, I run a 3-5-2 but with a winger and middie always playing offensive.


Defense is definately good for me... How about this record since I took over:
Matches GF-GA Points
Midwest Ice Storm FC 7 24 - 2 21
5. Houston Hippopotami 7 25 - 8 18
I'll take my record but my 4-0 defeat at the hands of the league leader last week was pretty sobering.

Which of these 2 keepers should I start? Fernandez was the listed keeper when i got the team, but in his first game her gave up 6 goals .
Just echoing what most people said: get an inad goalie. You should be able to get a young one for about $20K if you are patient. Passables are nice but they'll go for close to $100K.

Now everytime I look at him I'm going to be thinking of Lord Elron for some reason... then it will lead me to the Matrix... " I'm going to enjoy watching you die Mr Anderson"..."My name, is Neo"
At least I'm not the only one half expecting: "And you, too, shall be in the Fellowship, Mr Anderson" in that voice of his. I figured that was a voice for the Matrix but if LotR is any indication, he actually speaks like that.

Edit: What would you guys suggest I do with this guy:
Lou Lynch
He's a forward, easily since he's good at both passing and scoring unless you really need a defender. Actually, if it were me, I would sell him since he's 28 and start training young guys you can afford with his cash.

Doug5984, if you are #4 in your series, I would NOT sell ALL the oldsters. As i said, I was in last place when I did it and had no idea I could go undefeated for 7 straight. If you are top 4 in series, I believe there is no chance of worry about relegation whatever level you are.
Might want to wait until after the season or early next season since 4th place nets you some cash at the end of the season.

SI

[DataKing]

Defense is for wimps? Pardon me?

Screamin' Seamen League Records

League Matches: 25
-Wins: 22
-Draws: 3
-Losses: 0

-Goals Scored: 101
-Goals Allowed: 18 (0.72 per game)

-Clean sheets for goalkeepers: 13


Yeah...defense is for wimps.

[sterlingice]

That's right! Wimps! If you can't stand a little exciting 5-5 match now and again, you're just a little sissy! That's right, I'm talking to you. You, team... in... div IV... in 1st place... no less. I'll let Coffee Warlord handle this.

SI

[HornedFrog Purple]

Offense wins chicks, defense wins games. It is just where your priorities lie.

[vex]

All about the offense

[DataKing]

LMAO!

Chicks dig the long ball, I know. But I think chicks dig rich owners of Major League teams even more.

Not that I'm one of those, mind you (yet).

[vex]

I'm the next Kansas City Wizards. In 25-30 seasons that is.

[DataKing]

I know it would take forever and a day, if it were possible at all, but it would be really sweet if the Major League was occupied by nothing but FOFC teams.

Someday...maybe...just after hell freezes over.

[vex]

I would settle for one.

[QuikSand]

Ugh. I've made 47 transfers in the month of February. I've even given up on assigning jersey numbers.

Here's the puzzle? How many of my players are currently on the transfer list?

2/3, of course. Heh.






help me.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Hehe don't worry Quiksand. This guy is the undisputed king of the transfer market:

From Sweden:

fumpen (38794)

Total Purchases 318 338 886 US$
Total Sales 360 443 244 US$
Difference 42 104 359 US$

Average (bought) 254 264 US$
Average (sold) 293 521 US$
Average (bought + sold) 16 978 US$

2475 transfers!

Edit: Today for instance, he bought 4 players and sold 8!

[vex]

I'm guessing that he doesn't feel that the team spirit drop affects him.

[PilotMan]

Two things

1) He is head of the "Daytraders" Fed.

2) He has way to much time on his hands.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Hehe yeah. When I used to read the boards on occasion he would get flamed constantly. So then some people got together to try and run "daytraders" out of the game and they would send reports to the GM's for the littlest thing about a transfer. It was quite funny to read.

Anyways that little group made so many bogus charges I think they were disbanded but there is still a small group that will just police all day.

I have absolutely no problem with a daytrader buying a youth pull from me because:

1. Most of them suck. karate is good at what he does though.
2. The more times they sell my player the more money I get for originally owning him, so I get free money for their hit-or-miss gambling.

[Airhog]

man now that is alot of cash. His cash is probably in the 20 or 30 millions.

[McSweeny]

ok i signed up for a team today but i might have to wait until next season and pick up a div 6 team. how much longer will that be?

and...

i was just reading about this thing called assistant manager and how great it is supposed to be. Is it? Is it worth 7 pounds?

[Easy Mac]

Originally posted by McSweeny
ok i signed up for a team today but i might have to wait until next season and pick up a div 6 team. how much longer will that be?

and...

i was just reading about this thing called assistant manager and how great it is supposed to be. Is it? Is it worth 7 pounds?

Next season is about 5 weeks off.

HAM is pretty good, it helps to organize things, and makes it simpler to understand. I'm going without it for a while to see how I do, as once you get the feel for the game, its not as necessary. Probably more of a help with a large squad, as its hard to manage all the players. Good for newbies.

[bbor]

I STILL heart this thread...even though my 4-5-1 team sucks worse than Horned's

[Easy Mac]

bbor said:
I STILL heat this thread...even though my 4-5-1 team sucks worse than Horned's

Yeah, this thread gets me in heat too

[bbor]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Yeah, this thread gets me in heat too

HAAAH!...faster than you can say HEAT...i fixed my dumb ass spelling

[Poli]

Found this on the "newbie" conference page: The respondent was a Mod.

???? i heard training passing benefited defenders most

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You must have heard wrong, defenders don't use passing at all. Central defenders don't contribute to the attack at all, only midfield when played offensively, and wingbacks only contribute to the attack with their winger skill, not passing. It's good for midfield and forwards.

[vex]

Then how do I have central defenders scoring from time to time? I agree that the passing doesn't affect them, but to say that they don't contribute to the offensive attack at all doesn't make much sense, to me that is.

[Poli]

I'm in the same boat as you...perhaps what was meant is that the defenders don't increase your offensive attack. Say I play my defender offensively. Well, that helps the midfield play, not my forwards play. He may score still, but not necessarily because he was playing offensive.

Last week, I had a defensive wingback (Muniz) score a goal. It was a combination of a terrible team and my team having too many chances to score. How often will a defensive wingback or defender score? In my opinion, not very often. They score, but not near the rate as forwards or midfielders.

[DataKing]

I think this is how it works...

Defenders do not contribute to your attack rating, but when your attack rating determines that a goal has been scored by your team, a random factor decides who does the scoring. Forwards will get more than their fair share of the goals, and your midfielders and wingers will score some. Your defenders have a relatively small chance of "being selected" to score the goal, but it is always a possibility.

Also remember that defenders can score "event goals" based on their specialties. Arlen Lucas, one of my starting wingbacks, has scored 7 goals in 25 matches, far more than either of my other starting defenders. The vast majority of these have been headers off of corner kicks (Arlen has Specialty: Head).

[McSweeny]

well looks like i won't be getting my team until next season. There are now 84 people on the waiting list. Up from 62 yesterday. Looks like i get to break in the brand new div 6

[Poli]

Yuck, I don't want another division.