OT: The FOFC Television Draft - Draft Thread - Page 5

Crapshoot · 01-30-2006, 09:25 AM

5.3 - Performer, Other - Walter Cronkite (CBS Evening News)

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

5.3 - Performer, Other - Walter Cronkite (CBS Evening News)

Nice

Radii · 01-30-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

5.3 - Performer, Other - Walter Cronkite (CBS Evening News)

good pick, I had thought about taking Cronkite announcing Kennedy's death as a moment, but I wasn't sure it would count at first, then I wasn't sure it was on the actual news show instead of a breaking news type of thing as Maple Leafs ended up disallowing that kind of thing, so I just dropped it. Excellent pick.

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 10:03 AM

Thanks to people sending in picks, we can go rapid fire now...

Jon - 5.4 Show, drama - Playhouse 90
HERD - 5.5 Performer, comedy - Andy Griffith (The Andy Griffith Show)
kcchief - 5.6 Moment, drama Love's Labor Lost episode (ER)
Leafs - 5.7 Show, comedy - Monty Python's Flying Circus

Schmidty is on the clock.

WSUCougar · 01-30-2006, 10:32 AM

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Leafs - 5.7 Show, comedy - Monty Python's Flying Circus

Damn it! I thought I could sneak that one through later.

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Damn it! I thought I could sneak that one through later.

I thought it was decent value... thought they'd be gone by now. Strongly considered taking a moment instead of the whole show but looking at future picks this seemed the best way to go.

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 10:57 AM

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I thought it was decent value... thought they'd be gone by now. Strongly considered taking a moment instead of the whole show but looking at future picks this seemed the best way to go.

Spam!

oliegirl · 01-30-2006, 11:09 AM

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kcchief - 5.6 Moment, drama Love's Labor Lost episode (ER)

Man - that episode is heartbreaking! I watch ER reruns on TNT and that one was on last week...always makes me cry at the end when the dad is in the rocker with the baby and Greene tells him the news

There is another one, a woman goes into early labor and they can't stop it - baby is born super tiny, obviously won't make it but hangs in for a couple hours...end of the show they have a priest give the baby last rites and they are holding this teeny tiny baby in their arms...turns me into a crying heap every time I see it...

Johnny93g · 01-30-2006, 11:12 AM

Love that episode of er...so so sad, which is why it is so great.

What is playhouse 90, ive never heard of it?

JonInMiddleGA · 01-30-2006, 11:39 AM

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What is playhouse 90, ive never heard of it?

Aired on CBS from 1956 to 1961, anthology format that included classic productions of The Miracle Worker, Rod Serling's Requiem For A Heavyweight, The Comedian, and Judgement At Nuremberg.

Four consecutive Best Drama Emmy's, and numerous other Emmy wins (including a clean sweep of 6-for-6 nominations in 1956, including Best Direction, Teleplay Writing, Single Program, New Series, Best Single Peformance, ). And all of it live 90 minute presentations.

It's essentially the standard against which all other anthology series are judged, and is a very significant part of the Golden Age of Television.

wade moore · 01-30-2006, 11:51 AM

Jon,

I think the average age of FOFC is going to hurt you on that pick.. I'm 26 and I had never heard of it either.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-30-2006, 11:57 AM

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I think the average age of FOFC is going to hurt you on that pick.. I'm 26 and I had never heard of it either.

You may very well be right, but it's quite possibly THE highest quality television ever produced. EVER. It's the gold standard for TV drama, the Dick Butkus of it's position if you will. If it ends up being a "wrong" pick, it's a wrong pick I can definitely live with.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 12:02 PM

Drama, Show - The X-Files

wade moore · 01-30-2006, 12:03 PM

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Ok, I need to start picking some drama and moments, so I'll go with a moment from one of my all-time favorite shows:

Drama, Moment - The X-Files - Mulder's speech (and intertwined visuals) at the end of "Redux II".

I couldn't remember the name of the episode, so I had to look all over the internet for it this morning.

Can you give more details as to what this is? I was a regular X-files watcher for awhile, but not a fanatic and this isn't ringing a bell...

WSUCougar · 01-30-2006, 12:03 PM

Good pick, but X-Files is another one of those shows that I think the body of work outweighs one particular moment in terms of value. My two bits, anyway.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Good pick, but X-Files is another one of those shows that I think the body of work outweighs one particular moment in terms of value. My two bits, anyway.

I agree, but I haven't picked a moment yet, so I figured this was a good time for that.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 12:09 PM

Is it ok to change my pick to Show instead of moment?

WSUCougar · 01-30-2006, 12:14 PM

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Is it ok to change my pick to Show instead of moment?

Maple Leafs ruled against changes post-pick, but personally since another pick has not yet been made, I think it'd be alright to do this.

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 12:14 PM

Changing picks is OK as long as nobody else has picked yet.

So you can do it now if you want.

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 12:14 PM

Maple Leafs, are you picking for Raven?

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Changing picks is OK as long as nobody else has picked yet.

So you can do it now if you want.

Ok, thanks

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 12:21 PM

Raven takes:
5.9 Performer, comedy - Redd Foxx (Sanford and Son)

Sachmo is up... I have another pick for Raven, so Schmidty stick around it will be back to you shortly.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 12:21 PM

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Can you give more details as to what this is? I was a regular X-files watcher for awhile, but not a fanatic and this isn't ringing a bell...

It's the episode in season 5 where CSM gets shot, Mulder finally confronts the syndicate (the speech part), and Scully's cancer miraculously goes into remission. It was an awesome episode. Very "epic" feeling.

Butter · 01-30-2006, 12:25 PM

The X-Files in its prime was the best television I have ever seen, period. Unfortunately, all good things must come to an end, and they got a little too cute with trying to keep the conspiracy going on too long.

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 12:26 PM

5.10. Performer, Comedy. Jack Klugman, The Odd Couple

Klugman and Randall were greatness...ALMOST as good as the movie. Almost. but great for TV.

6.1. Moment, Other. "That would be in the ass, Bob." (The Newlywed Game)

It really happened.

wade moore · 01-30-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

It's the episode in season 5 where CSM gets shot, Mulder finally confronts the syndicate (the speech part), and Scully's cancer miraculously goes into remission. It was an awesome episode. Very "epic" feeling.

Know exactly which one you're talking about now...

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 12:28 PM

Hm... timeout.

I'd previously mentioned that I was counting "Late Night" as one show, and someone already took David Letterman. This is the sort of thing I was referring to in the rules when I mentioned shows having multiple hosts. I didn't want shows like The Tonight Show or even something like The Daily Show being used multiple times.

What do people think on this? Am I splitting hairs?

Crapshoot · 01-30-2006, 12:29 PM

To be honest, I stayed away from the Late Show and a couple of others for this reason - I figure we might as well be consistent.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 12:29 PM

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The X-Files in its prime was the best television I have ever seen, period. Unfortunately, all good things must come to an end, and they got a little too cute with trying to keep the conspiracy going on too long.

I watched the show all the way to the end, but I agree that the conspiracy got ridiculous in the final 2-3 seasons. I think it was a case of Chris Carter painting himself into a corner story-wise, and having to resort to cheesy ways of "tying" things up.

wade moore · 01-30-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Hm... timeout.

I'd previously mentioned that I was counting "Late Night" as one show, and someone already took David Letterman. This is the sort of thing I was referring to in the rules when I mentioned shows having multiple hosts. I didn't want shows like The Tonight Show or even something like The Daily Show being used multiple times.

What do people think on this? Am I splitting hairs?

Errr... isn't Late Night and Late Show different? Are we sure which one someone was using for Letterman?

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Hm... timeout.

I'd previously mentioned that I was counting "Late Night" as one show, and someone already took David Letterman. This is the sort of thing I was referring to in the rules when I mentioned shows having multiple hosts. I didn't want shows like The Tonight Show or even something like The Daily Show being used multiple times.

What do people think on this? Am I splitting hairs?

I'll change it if you want, if that's the rule. Not crazy about it, but I'll change it.

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Errr... isn't Late Night and Late Show different? Are we sure which one someone was using for Letterman?

Late Night and Late Show would be different shows... but the pick has been listed as Late Night all along.

(As it should be... Letterman was much better on Late Night than Late Show.)

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 12:38 PM

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I'll change it if you want, if that's the rule. Not crazy about it, but I'll change it.

OK, please make a new pick.

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 12:39 PM

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Errr... isn't Late Night and Late Show different? Are we sure which one someone was using for Letterman?

He's saying Late Night with Conan and Late Night with David Letterman are the same show. If that's what he wants, I'll change it.

I was thinking the rule was more "Late Show with David Letterman" and "Late Night with David Letterman" as being the same, but if the Tonight Show was his inspiration, then Late Night is indeed the same show. Not very similar in style, but it's not a judgement call.

sachmo71 · 01-30-2006, 12:42 PM

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OK, please make a new pick.

Done.

Raven · 01-30-2006, 12:48 PM

Moment, Comedy - Married with Children. Al 's dream sequence reliving his 4 TD game from Polk High

Al running down the sideline, stiffarming and putitng up the Heisman pose at the end.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 01:00 PM

Here's a childhood favorite:

Moment, Other - The Muppet Show - Kermit sings "It's Not Easy Being Green".

There are so many awesome moments in that show, but I loved that song (and whenever Kermit sang), so there ya go.

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Here's a childhood favorite:

Moment, Other - The Muppet Show - Kermit sings "It's Not Easy Being Green".

There are so many awesome moments in that show, but I loved that song (and whenever Kermit sang), so there ya go.

Did that happen once, or often? Did you have a specific one in mind. Please clarify if needed.

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 01:47 PM

For my pick... DAMMIT, we are OUT OF TIME! What is your draft pick's name? TELL ME NOW!

6.4 Performer, drama - Keifer Sutherland, 24

Radii · 01-30-2006, 01:56 PM

wow, the muppet show is a great pick(anything from it), another one i'd never thought of. 24 was on my list, I like that too.

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 01:59 PM

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Did that happen once, or often? Did you have a specific one in mind. Please clarify if needed.

I can only find one instance where it was notated as having been sung, and that was in an episode with John Cleese. I would think that he sang it other times, but even if that were true, my moment is referring to the first time.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-30-2006, 02:14 PM

Dunno if this helps or hurts the Kermit pick but ...
http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/..._ustinov.shtml
Says the song deubted on ep 1/12 -- Original Airdates: November 8, 1976 (New York) and November 13, 1976 (LA)
AND says it appears again in episode 43 that aired February 27, 1978 (New York) and February 24, 1978 (LA) The recording of "Bein' Green" is the exact same one as what had previously appeared in the Peter Ustinov episode. Though some musical numbers have been repeated on The Muppet Show (usually with different singers), this is the only time the actual audio recording would be repeated. (Not counting when entire skits would be repeated as was the case with some of the UK skits.)
http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/..._sellers.shtml

Schmidty · 01-30-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Dunno if this helps or hurts the Kermit pick but ...
http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/..._ustinov.shtml
Says the song deubted on ep 1/12 -- Original Airdates: November 8, 1976 (New York) and November 13, 1976 (LA)
AND says it appears again in episode 43 that aired February 27, 1978 (New York) and February 24, 1978 (LA) The recording of "Bein' Green" is the exact same one as what had previously appeared in the Peter Ustinov episode. Though some musical numbers have been repeated on The Muppet Show (usually with different singers), this is the only time the actual audio recording would be repeated. (Not counting when entire skits would be repeated as was the case with some of the UK skits.)
http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/..._sellers.shtml

Cool, thanks Jon.

The only specific thing I found was from a Best Of DVD set, which said the song was on there with Peter Sellers, Clesse and someone else I can't remember. So yeah, your info is much better.

Johnny93g · 01-30-2006, 03:04 PM

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Moment, Comedy - Married with Children. Al 's dream sequence reliving his 4 TD game from Polk High

Al running down the sideline, stiffarming and putitng up the Heisman pose at the end.

I cant actually remember this episode, i remember Al mentioning the 4 td's in one game thousands of time's, but this one moment escpapes me. I think you should have taken the whole show, or even Ed O'neal as Al Bundy, but im not sure of your pick situation.....Love that Married With Children made it in though

Maple Leafs · 01-30-2006, 03:09 PM

If I had to take a MWC episode, I would have gone with "It's a Bundyful Life", with Sam Kinison. Can't really think of any specific moments I would take over the show as a whole, although I could make a case for: "Did you miss me Al?" -- "With every bullet so far."

sachmo71 · 01-31-2006, 01:34 PM

Schmidty · 01-31-2006, 01:45 PM

kcchief is MIA. It's been like 24 hours. I wonder if ML will have someone else pick for him.

kcchief19 · 01-31-2006, 02:53 PM

Ack. Long story. Sorry. Didn't plan to be away from a computer this long. I e-mailed my last pick. How was I supposed to know everybody was going to pull their head out of their ass on a Monday.

Other - performer - Carol Burnett - The Carol Burnett Show

ThunderingHERD · 01-31-2006, 05:35 PM

Moment, drama - Sam leaps in to Lee Harvey Oswald (Quantum Leap)

wade moore · 01-31-2006, 05:37 PM

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Moment, drama - Sam leaps in to Lee Harvey Oswald (Quantum Leap)

Nice, but this is another show that seems to have quite a few 'moments' to me making a moments pick at least somewhat questionable...

01-30-2006, 10:03 AM	#204
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Thanks to people sending in picks, we can go rapid fire now... Jon - 5.4 Show, drama - Playhouse 90 HERD - 5.5 Performer, comedy - Andy Griffith (The Andy Griffith Show) kcchief - 5.6 Moment, drama Love's Labor Lost episode (ER) Leafs - 5.7 Show, comedy - Monty Python's Flying Circus Schmidty is on the clock. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-30-2006, 11:12 AM	#209
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	Love that episode of er...so so sad, which is why it is so great. What is playhouse 90, ive never heard of it? __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

01-30-2006, 12:02 PM	#213
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Drama, Show - The X-Files __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross Last edited by Schmidty : 01-30-2006 at 12:16 PM.

01-30-2006, 12:03 PM	#215
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Good pick, but X-Files is another one of those shows that I think the body of work outweighs one particular moment in terms of value. My two bits, anyway. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

01-30-2006, 12:09 PM	#217
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Is it ok to change my pick to Show instead of moment? __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

01-30-2006, 09:25 AM	#201
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	5.3 - Performer, Other - Walter Cronkite (CBS Evening News)

01-30-2006, 12:14 PM	#219
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Changing picks is OK as long as nobody else has picked yet. So you can do it now if you want. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-30-2006, 12:14 PM	#220
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Maple Leafs, are you picking for Raven? Last edited by sachmo71 : 01-30-2006 at 12:15 PM.

01-30-2006, 12:21 PM	#222
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Raven takes: 5.9 Performer, comedy - Redd Foxx (Sanford and Son) Sachmo is up... I have another pick for Raven, so Schmidty stick around it will be back to you shortly. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-30-2006, 12:25 PM	#224
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	The X-Files in its prime was the best television I have ever seen, period. Unfortunately, all good things must come to an end, and they got a little too cute with trying to keep the conspiracy going on too long. __________________ My listening habits

01-30-2006, 12:26 PM	#225
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	5.10. Performer, Comedy. Jack Klugman, The Odd Couple Klugman and Randall were greatness...ALMOST as good as the movie. Almost. but great for TV. 6.1. Moment, Other. "That would be in the ass, Bob." (The Newlywed Game) It really happened. Last edited by sachmo71 : 01-30-2006 at 12:41 PM.

01-30-2006, 12:28 PM	#227
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Hm... timeout. I'd previously mentioned that I was counting "Late Night" as one show, and someone already took David Letterman. This is the sort of thing I was referring to in the rules when I mentioned shows having multiple hosts. I didn't want shows like The Tonight Show or even something like The Daily Show being used multiple times. What do people think on this? Am I splitting hairs? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-30-2006, 12:29 PM	#228
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	To be honest, I stayed away from the Late Show and a couple of others for this reason - I figure we might as well be consistent. Last edited by Crapshoot : 01-30-2006 at 12:30 PM.

01-30-2006, 12:48 PM	#236
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	Moment, Comedy - Married with Children. Al 's dream sequence reliving his 4 TD game from Polk High Al running down the sideline, stiffarming and putitng up the Heisman pose at the end.

01-30-2006, 01:00 PM	#237
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Here's a childhood favorite: Moment, Other - The Muppet Show - Kermit sings "It's Not Easy Being Green". There are so many awesome moments in that show, but I loved that song (and whenever Kermit sang), so there ya go. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

01-30-2006, 01:47 PM	#239
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	For my pick... DAMMIT, we are OUT OF TIME! What is your draft pick's name? TELL ME NOW! 6.4 Performer, drama - Keifer Sutherland, 24 __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-30-2006, 01:56 PM	#240
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	wow, the muppet show is a great pick(anything from it), another one i'd never thought of. 24 was on my list, I like that too.

01-30-2006, 02:14 PM	#242
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Dunno if this helps or hurts the Kermit pick but ... http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/..._ustinov.shtml Says the song deubted on ep 1/12 -- Original Airdates: November 8, 1976 (New York) and November 13, 1976 (LA) AND says it appears again in episode 43 that aired February 27, 1978 (New York) and February 24, 1978 (LA) The recording of "Bein' Green" is the exact same one as what had previously appeared in the Peter Ustinov episode. Though some musical numbers have been repeated on The Muppet Show (usually with different singers), this is the only time the actual audio recording would be repeated. (Not counting when entire skits would be repeated as was the case with some of the UK skits.) http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/..._sellers.shtml __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

01-30-2006, 03:09 PM	#245
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	If I had to take a MWC episode, I would have gone with "It's a Bundyful Life", with Sam Kinison. Can't really think of any specific moments I would take over the show as a whole, although I could make a case for: "Did you miss me Al?" -- "With every bullet so far." __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis Last edited by Maple Leafs : 01-30-2006 at 03:09 PM.

01-31-2006, 01:34 PM	#246
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	err?

01-31-2006, 01:45 PM	#247
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	kcchief is MIA. It's been like 24 hours. I wonder if ML will have someone else pick for him. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

01-31-2006, 02:53 PM	#248
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Ack. Long story. Sorry. Didn't plan to be away from a computer this long. I e-mailed my last pick. How was I supposed to know everybody was going to pull their head out of their ass on a Monday. Other - performer - Carol Burnett - The Carol Burnett Show Last edited by kcchief19 : 01-31-2006 at 07:53 PM. Reason: Make pick bold

01-31-2006, 05:35 PM	#249
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Moment, drama - Sam leaps in to Lee Harvey Oswald (Quantum Leap) __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

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