Moderation Announcement

[Senator]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

They don't need PM's... They have their own private elitist mod forum.

Very good. Carry on.

[MJ4H]

hahaha I think STFUCougar and WTFCougar are the funniest things I've seen all day.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

hahaha I think STFUCougar and WTFCougar are the funniest things I've seen all day.

very funny, but not sure they're at the top ... this last week or so has been a golden era.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Senator

This diverse of a group will be PMing each other to their deaths.

Ya, its just like the general discussion forum or dynasty, but its just for mods...logistically it wouldnt work otherwise.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I guess I don't read the post names as well as I should, but who the hell is Blade6119? And why does everybody think he's too emotional?

Is this a hattrick thing?

Its a WW thing...in those games i go way overboard with posts/accusations to get results...as for jon's claim, i was one of many(i recieved PMs from others saying if i hadnt they would have) to report a post that he shouldnt have made. After a long talk with skydog, which i feel is by far the biggest reason i was selected, we agreed it prob. wasnt the best post but would let it slide this time. I presented some good points, he presented some good points, and i think we came to an understanding on the matter. We did so without emotion playing an issue as well. I think the people i know well on this board(relatively) and talk with outside of this board know i can be logical and calm if i try. I hope the rest of you see that as well. Not much more i can say about that matter. But im glad you are voicing your concerns, its what I want. And if its me, and not my future actions, then im even happier.

[DaddyTorgo]

*TWEET* FOUL

failure to properly identify a dola-post is grounds for loss of moderatory powers

[CamEdwards]

Not that it matters, but I too have a problem with one of the named moderators, and it's Blade as well. I don't think he's really emotionally mature enough to be a moderator.

That being said, I think he's going to be so paranoid about suspending someone because some of us have said he's too emotional that he won't actually do much moderating at all. If it turns into a largely honorary thing for Blade, that's fine with me.

[DaddyTorgo]

but you guys are missing the fact that the assistant-moderators are now all responsible to each other in this "council" of sorts. So even if one of them tweeks out and boxes you without cause, you have recourse.


sides...it's just a message board. I lived without for 3 weeks, and i'm pretty sure others could, and some perhaps maybe even should (myself included, no value judgements meant).

I fully support our new 11 member Dark Jedi Council and look forward to the first PS from SW of the mods as members of the jedi council

[Young Drachma]

I think this should be good to hush people up. Or at least, give them someone than SkyDog to cry about.

[Daimyo]

If one or both of the other invitees decides against it and you're set on 11 I think Simms would be an excellent choice if he would be interested... i think he's even helped out with the technical stuff a couple times in the past.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

hahaha I think STFUCougar and WTFCougar are the funniest things I've seen all day.

LOL. If you combine the two, you can make WSUCougar.

Waitaminute...

[Schmidty]

I am not worthy of being in Ant's sig, but I will humbly accept the honor.

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by Daimyo

If one or both of the other invitees decides against it and you're set on 11 I think Simms would be an excellent choice if he would be interested... i think he's even helped out with the technical stuff a couple times in the past.

I thought Simms was already an admin?

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showgroups.php

If not, I second that motion.

[Raiders Army]

Phil or Chris Simms?

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm not a mod here, but I would like you all to know that I'm wearing a black shirt and black sweatpants right now. I also just finished eating pizza, and now I'm going to brush some teeth.

So who wants to get their teeth brushed?

[st.cronin]

Hi, Pumpy. Tom Brady is awesome.

[DaddyTorgo]

just curious as to why people want Simms as an admin? I don't think I've ever seen a post by the guy (not that that should be a requirement, but still).

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Hi, Pumpy. Tom Brady is awesome.

BANNED!

[General Mike]

Jeeber, please don't ban me after my Jaguars kick the Titans ass again.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just catching up with this thread, but I think this is a very good idea. Bravo, for realizing that change can be a very good thing.

[duckman]

I guess I won't be making fun of Miners football anymore.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I think Blade6119 surprised me the most. I am also thinking the other two outstanding invitations are EaglesFan27 (who would be a great choice) and Frogman. If I had to pick a couple of moderators I would like to see, those two would be at the top of the list.

My only knock with EaglesFan27 is that his dynasty posts are short.

I wasn't invited. I also agree that Blade is the most surprising to me. However, I think the system should work well.


Edited: Sorry my dynasty posts are too short. I just like to write and post as the action is playing out

[Simms]

Originally Posted by VPI97

I thought Simms was already an admin?

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showgroups.php

If not, I second that motion.

I have access to the control panel and accompanying moderator "powers", but the former is only for technical issues, and I've made it a point to never actually wield the latter. (Well, except for once, when I edited a thread title and was put properly back in my place by Easy Mac.)

I'm flattered by the nomination, but I'll leave to the existing PtB to discuss its relative merits.

[Buccaneer]

Guess I can't call jb a fucking moron anymore. Oh wait...damn

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I will use my new powers to destroy all those who oppose me!!!

Worry not. The combined powers of alien technology and coffee shall overthrow this new council.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

I wonder what this means for the future of chicks posting here. Hmmm...

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

I wonder what this means for the future of chicks posting here. Hmmm...

Well, now that Skydog's out of the way you can post naked!

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

I wonder what this means for the future of chicks posting here. Hmmm...

Remember Capsicum?


Don;t BE that chick.....

[GoldenEagle]

I would have pissed in my pants with laughter if jbmagic would have been made one of the new moderators. By the way, there are two seperate FOFC members: Blade and Blade6119.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I would have pissed in my pants with laughter if jbmagic would have been made one of the new moderators. By the way, there are two seperate FOFC members: Blade and Blade6119.

Did anyone confuse us? If so, i apologize to him for any harm that came his way

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe capsicum is one of the missing-mods?

[kcchief19]

I'm somewhat reluctant to post because I vehemently disagree with Ben's harshest critics and I don't want to say anything that suggests otherwise. I think moderation is a thankless task and I believe a certain level of latitude is justified. There are things about Ben that I don't like and don't think he should do as a moderator (OK, just his use of the word "faggoty") but by and large I think he does an excellent job in a tight position.

I whole heartedly understand the motivation -- I know I'm a busy guy and I certainly do't have time to moderate a board like this somewhat single-handedly (I like Ryan, but he seems to have faded from the picture somewhat over the years). I do understand that, and I think it's a worthwhile idea.

I do think that there can be some pains with this. With more people with the button in their hand, there is potential for an increase in suspensions that probably won't sit to well. In the long run, I'm sure the tweaks will work out.

That said, I have to concur with some of the concern about choices made for moderators. With all due respect, I don't think Blade has demonstrated any strong credibility as a moderator. I have a similar concern about TroyF. I like Troy and I've bee in fantasy leagues with him, but he has had tendencies to take his ball and go home from time to time and I don't think that's a good quality either. Again, I like JeeberD, but I think it's a mistake to make anyone a moderator who has been suspended on multiple occassions, no more how minor the infraction may have been. One of those instances for sure that I know the circumstances of was a clear-cut case of violating a rule that he darn well should have known better about breaking. That's not a good sign.

I would have loved to see some more accomplished choices with track records chosen as moderators. Simms doesn't post a lot here, but he has a track record on other sites and would be an excellent choice. cthomer seems to have been a success in moderating the dynasty forum, so why not expand his role? GrantDawg has served as backup moderator -- why not promote him to full time status? I think there were better choices than those three, IMHO.

Originally Posted by Blade6119

After a long talk with skydog, which i feel is by far the biggest reason i was selected, we agreed it prob. wasnt the best post but would let it slide this time.

With all due respect, I hope this isn't true. One conversation should not be the basis for making a decision this large.

I understand if Ben is wanting to select some people who are contrarians so that the other contrarians feel they are reprsented, but I think it's much better to select people who are respected by the group as a whole, not just one group of complainers.

As long as the organization is fluid and the decision making process transparent, this certainly can be successful and I hope that it is.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

With all due respect, I hope this isn't true. One conversation should not be the basis for making a decision this large

Ive been apart of this board since sideline, and have contributed the entire way. I think that talk gave him the assurance i could handle situations with a clear head. That is why i think its key. Its not so much the conversation as how it was handled. If i implied it otherwise, im sorry.

[wade moore]

Shew...

Just got back from watching 4 basketball games back to back at the CAA tourney including the closing game where my #11 Tribe came 2 points away from upsetting the #6 VCU Rams - ohwell...

The point being, I'm a bit tired but I still read through the whole thread. I'm glad to hear that the idea is being received well and I hope that I can do my part to keep this place as enjoyable as it has been.

Now, sleep time - I hope I have a voice tomorrow!

[st.cronin]

Blade, I don't have a problem with you as mod. Or any of the other mods. I assume there will be some growing pains for you all, but I think things will ultimately be fine.

[hoopsguy]

If there is actually a debate going on about the validity of the moderator selections, then consider this a vote backing both the collective group and Blade6119 specifically. He is the one that I have the most contact with in the new group and I think he is a bright guy who cares about the site and the community a great deal.

[Eaglesfan27]

I know other people started the joking in the werewolf thread, but I find it disturbing that Blade6119 is responding and joking about boxing people to effect the outcome of a game. Then again, perhaps, I need to lighten up. However, it seems to me even the hint of impropriety could taint any mod decisions he does have to make in the future.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If there is actually a debate going on about the validity of the moderator selections, then consider this a vote backing both the collective group and Blade6119 specifically. He is the one that I have the most contact with in the new group and I think he is a bright guy who cares about the site and the community a great deal.

agreed ... better them than me, that's for sure

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I know other people started the joking in the werewolf thread, but I find it disturbing that Blade6119 is responding and joking about boxing people to effect the outcome of a game. Then again, perhaps, I need to lighten up. However, it seems to me even the hint of impropriety could taint any mod decisions he does have to make in the future.

I am not trying to be hostile to Blade, but it is absolutely amazing to me that Blade is a mod and you aren't.

I hope people are making their voices heard to SD.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I have a feeling that this isn't going to end well. But it should be mighty entertaining.

Totally agree with you. Who the hell is blade6119? Definately the "one thing is not like the others" example from the list of mods.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I'm somewhat reluctant to post because I vehemently disagree with Ben's harshest critics and I don't want to say anything that suggests otherwise. I think moderation is a thankless task and I believe a certain level of latitude is justified. There are things about Ben that I don't like and don't think he should do as a moderator (OK, just his use of the word "faggoty") but by and large I think he does an excellent job in a tight position.

I find it very surprising you weren't picked, since you've been around since as long as I can remember during the old Sideline days and you seem to be relatively level-headed (especially for a Chiefs fan )

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I wasn't invited. I also agree that Blade is the most surprising to me. However, I think the system should work well.

I'll throw another shocked look out there as well for this one. Very surprising indeed...

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If there is actually a debate going on about the validity of the moderator selections, then consider this a vote backing both the collective group and Blade6119 specifically. He is the one that I have the most contact with in the new group and I think he is a bright guy who cares about the site and the community a great deal.

Finally, I'd like to echo these sentiments as well. After playing CoH with hoops, he's probably the one of the nicest and most intelligent guys around. I've spoken with Blade6119 quite a few times and I find him to be very intelligent as well.

Perhaps kcchief19 or Eaglesfan27 weren't included because then the council would be all elitists. Personally I think it's good that some decisions are debatable since you can't please everyone.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

I love you.

[Ben E Lou]

A quick comment, then I have to run to a meeting...

Some have asked "Why not ______?" or "Why _______?" I was shooting for a MIX of longevity, lack of ability to be accused of being a yes-man (for example, if I ever completely abdicated the One True Dark Jedi throne and Blackie didn't want it back, the first person I'd ask to take over would be GrantDawg, but he's not in this group because I know that many of you know that we've hung out together and consider one another as friends...that's not that G-Dawg would BE a yes-man, just that I wouldn't want him to have to go thorugh being ACCUSED of it over and over if we agreed a good bit, which undoubtedly we would), general respect by the board, being active on a day-to-day basis, and a few other things. I am aware that NOT EVERYONE ON THE GROUP HAS ALL OF THESE QUALITIES, but I have seen qualities in all of them that would indicate an ability to step up to the plate and do well.

[CamEdwards]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I know other people started the joking in the werewolf thread, but I find it disturbing that Blade6119 is responding and joking about boxing people to effect the outcome of a game. Then again, perhaps, I need to lighten up. However, it seems to me even the hint of impropriety could taint any mod decisions he does have to make in the future.

Others, including Jeeber, have joked around in here about banning/boxing. As I said earlier, since any boxing will require the approval of either Skydog or Ryan (at least that's how I understand it), I think Blade6119's moderating powers will end up being largely ceremonial.

I think that his past postings just make us more aware of, and less tolerant of his tendencies to blow up over childish things.

I also agree with the others who say you'd make a good mod.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I would have loved to see some more accomplished choices with track records chosen as moderators. Simms doesn't post a lot here, but he has a track record on other sites and would be an excellent choice. cthomer seems to have been a success in moderating the dynasty forum, so why not expand his role? GrantDawg has served as backup moderator -- why not promote him to full time status? I think there were better choices than those three, IMHO.

I can't speak for the others, but as for me...thanks for the vote of confidence, but I failed the spelling test to become a full-time mod.

Actually, I wasn't asked, but I would have had to pass if asked. I don't have time right now to do this job. I'm working 70+ hours a week and have no access to the board during that time. I'm only on about 30 minutes a day now, so there is no way I can help mod.

And for the record, I think this is a good idea. Ben has been doing a job that required more hours than anyone has in a day. He has needed to get more people involved for a long time. I think he has mostly chosen wisely, and though I think there will be "controversy" (becuase some on this board seem to need drama like most 12 year old girls), the actual day-to-day posting and such will not be greatly altered.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

A quick comment, then I have to run to a meeting...

Some have asked "Why not ______?" or "Why _______?" I was shooting for a MIX of longevity, lack of ability to be accused of being a yes-man (for example, if I ever completely abdicated the One True Dark Jedi throne and Blackie didn't want it back, the first person I'd ask to take over would be GrantDawg, but he's not in this group because I know that many of you know that we've hung out together and consider one another as friends...that's not that G-Dawg would BE a yes-man, just that I wouldn't want him to have to go thorugh being ACCUSED of it over and over if we agreed a good bit, which undoubtedly we would), general respect by the board, being active on a day-to-day basis, and a few other things. I am aware that NOT EVERYONE ON THE GROUP HAS ALL OF THESE QUALITIES, but I have seen qualities in all of them that would indicate an ability to step up to the plate and do well.

Posted this while I was posting. I agree with that thought, but would have turned you down for another reason.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Simms

I have access to the control panel and accompanying moderator "powers", but the former is only for technical issues, and I've made it a point to never actually wield the latter. (Well, except for once, when I edited a thread title and was put properly back in my place by Easy Mac.)

I'm flattered by the nomination, but I'll leave to the existing PtB to discuss its relative merits.

i don't think you're that much of a presence here to be given formal MOderator powers. sorry, if by SD's mandate that contributing to the community earns you leeway around here - you got a lot of catching up to do.

[Anthony]

i say since we're in the process of change - why not boot Ryan S from the moderation group and get a more active member of the community (with equal technical skill)? Ryan S is no longer a part of this community, at least not on a level that should warrant him being an Uber-Mod. i've been saying this for years now. no offense to the guy, but he's a non-presence. SD took a lot of flack for running this board single-handedly over the years when it was intended to be a 2 Mod set-up. he needs to be relieved of his responsibilities here.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I like JeeberD, but I think it's a mistake to make anyone a moderator who has been suspended on multiple occassions, no more how minor the infraction may have been. One of those instances for sure that I know the circumstances of was a clear-cut case of violating a rule that he darn well should have known better about breaking. That's not a good sign.

You don't think it's possible for a person to learn from past mistakes?

[Barkeep49]

I think SkyDog has assembled a nice group of mods here. As for the "controversial" one I understand where others are coming from, but I think that some of the comments here against Blade have been nitpicks. Truly reminds me of a werewolf game in that respect, where people are ready to pounce on anything.

I hope to see this system work, especially as the mods that I have dealt with seem like good people, but have to think that a smaller group will eventually be used, or else some mods will be primarily in-charge of the other forums besides GD.