OT: Rockstar INXS thoughts - Page 5

Ksyrup · 09-14-2005, 07:09 AM

That's my favorite Stones song, too, that and Angie. I'm not into honky-tonkin' blues rock. Never been much of a Stones fan...I've never owned a single record.

That said, you're right about his performance. He may be the ringer, but I'll still be surprised if he wins. In fact, if he does win, I think that means he definitely was the ringer, in that he was pre-chosen not just to be guaranteed a spot in the top 15 but to win, because he's shown himself as a singer who isn't right for this band.

However, if the voting is on the up-and-up, it does say something that he's never been in the bottom three. Of course, that might have more to do with a rabid Australian following and a concerted effort to keep the band all-Australian then anything having to do with his ability.

I think JD is the only choice at this point. Regardless of his personality, he is the best fit as both a lead singer and their lead singer. And he's given them a lead single that the audience has already been force-fed 3 or 4 times before it even gets to radio. In fact, in this day and age, his personality is probably a plus for him. The only question for the band is whether they can control him, but I think the fact that he's Jack Nobody and they're the unquestioned leaders of the band, should take care of that issue. That and some choice contractual provisions. It wouldn't shock me, if this joint venture is somehow successful, for him to get big-headed and desert the band at some point, but again, I'm sure the contract will have something to say about that possibility.

Raven Hawk · 09-14-2005, 08:47 AM

I hope MiG is the next to go. He's got rock-star looks, but he's a show-tunes guy at heart. JD did give the best performance this week. I thought that Suzie's performance was weaker than it has been in the past. Marty gave a really strong performance as well. It would have been better if he didn't do his original, "Trees," as an accoustic set, though. I really think that JD and Marty are the ones to beat at this point. Even on the VH1 portion on Sunday, INXS said that they thought that these two handled the questions the best. The interesting thing is that Suzie and MiG are superior singers, but they just don't have the personality.

My guess for tonight's show: JD, Marty, Suzie, MiG in that order, most votes to least votes.

Ksyrup · 09-14-2005, 08:55 AM

I thought Marty's performance of Creep was pretty good, up until the end, where he started screaming and howling out of key. That was awful.

Shows you the power of repetition to make something a hit, though. That damn Trees song has been stuck in my head all morning, and while I like it OK, I'm fairly certain it's only because I've heard it half a dozen times on this show that it's stuck in my head.

Ryche · 09-14-2005, 09:04 AM

At this point I think it has to be JD as well, barring Mig being a ringer of course. But I got the impression they were not enthused by Paint it Black either. Musicals are the perfect venue for Mig. The only thing holding them from picking JD would be the attitude, whether they want to deal with someone like that at their age. But then, I'm sure Hutchins wasn't the easiest person to deal with either and they managed.

Marty just doesn't have the vocal abilities for this type of band and Suzie would be just too radical a change for them to handle most likely, both musically and personality wise. My guess is Marty leaves tonight just so they can keep a female on for the finale.

dunkem · 09-14-2005, 02:33 PM

Yeah, I think all of these guys are great singers, but only JD has the right voice for the band although he does act and say what you want him rather than how he really feels as some of the INXS member pointed out.

Seems like MIG is letting nerves get to him like Jordis and he's not putting that energy in. His higher theatrical voice doesn't quite match with INXS stuff, and I guess we'll find out when he's in the bottom three tonight.

Marty, good performer, catchy but corny song, but just not an INXS voice. I can't see Trees as the new INXS hit single, but I can definitely see it as Marty's hit on his own.

Suzie was just alright last night, and similarly doesn't match the INXS sound. Seems like she tries too hard to "rock out" and would be better suited as a Sheryl Crow type rather than a member of a "rock band".

Hilarious when everyone tried to include Navarro in their performances all the time trying to suck up to em by rubbing on him while he's playing. And dang.... that little smooch from JD... I dunno what he was thinking.

Hurst2112 · 09-14-2005, 03:08 PM

I don't hope Mig goes. I got 1000 dollars riding on him @ 3:1!

Joe · 09-14-2005, 05:18 PM

Regarding the ringer/conspiracy talk, here is what Dave posted on his blog a few days ago, its pretty interesting. I dont know if anyone here has read or posted it already, but here goes.

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I have always been a fan of conspiracies and the unexplained. Kennedy, Area 51, Scientology, Loch Ness, U.F.O.s… Rockstar: INXS? I never thought in a million years I would be at the center of such a controversy! As you know, I usually don’t defend myself all that much here, but now that there are accusations being thrown at my friends and co-workers, I am happy to respond. Theory #1: Mig Ayesa is a ringer and he was added much later in order to win the competition. I can tell you for a fact that Mig has been in the competition from the start. True, there were 14 singers at the start of the show, but the 15th that was added late in the game was a female. Theory #2: The voting is rigged. Now why would anyone do that? After all, this decision comes down to INXS and they can send home or save whomever they want at any time. The voting is to see how the public is feeling in order to help make that choice, but in the end, the band can always over ride something they don’t agree with. Rigging the voting just makes no sense. Theory #3: The show isn’t live. Well, nobody has ever said that it was. In fact, every week I post about how I’m going to a taping on this Sunday or that Wednesday. Theory #4: My comments aren’t accurate. Hey, I call it like I see it. Rock is very subjective. What works for me may not work for others. How long do you think Lou Reed would last in this thing? Not long but he is one of my favorite singers. Bottom line? I’m not in INXS so what do I have to gain by lying about what I am seeing and hearing? Theory #5: Too hard on J.D. Well, I’ll say, when he is a jerk, I hammer him, when he does well, I am fully supportive. Nobody else gets hammered because they don’t exhibit the behavior to warrant it.

Joe · 09-14-2005, 05:28 PM

I was also reading an interview that Kirk Pengilly did, and heres what he said about the show. This was back in January, so I don't know if things have changed, but...

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But we are not trying to replace Michael, we just want a new singer, because he's no longer our singer, and he's absolutely irreplaceable. One of our criteria, or briefs to the casting agents and all the people involved with doing all the editions is "what we don't want is another Michael Hutchence", because you cannot replace Michael. We want someone that is different. Personally, I hope it's a female, because then there are not the comparisons with Michael.

So I'm not sure if JD is the obvious choice if this is how they still feel. The past few weeks, its been pretty obvious (to me, at least) that JD has really been trying to emulate Hutch in his performances. So if thats NOT what the band is looking for, I doubt he'll win. But maybe Kirk really wants Suzie to win based on those comments.

jbmagic · 09-14-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven Hawk

I hope MiG is the next to go. He's got rock-star looks, but he's a show-tunes guy at heart. JD did give the best performance this week. I thought that Suzie's performance was weaker than it has been in the past. Marty gave a really strong performance as well. It would have been better if he didn't do his original, "Trees," as an accoustic set, though. I really think that JD and Marty are the ones to beat at this point. Even on the VH1 portion on Sunday, INXS said that they thought that these two handled the questions the best. The interesting thing is that Suzie and MiG are superior singers, but they just don't have the personality.

My guess for tonight's show: JD, Marty, Suzie, MiG in that order, most votes to least votes.

MIG will win it all. it has been determine.

Joe · 09-14-2005, 08:59 PM

damn suzie got eliminated. wish it was JD, but it was fun to see him squirm a little bit.

SegRat · 09-14-2005, 09:01 PM

If mig wins this thing I wont listen to inxs. Marty and JD are much better IMO. JD is probably best for INXS. I think Marty will end up in a bigger band. Mig needs to go.

sabotai · 09-14-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

damn suzie got eliminated. wish it was JD, but it was fun to see him squirm a little bit.

You know what would be really nice? If they could just pick a friggn' time slot and stick to it!! (I was getting ready to turn it on...oh well).

Mac Howard · 09-14-2005, 09:04 PM

JD moved into pole position for me also last night. For sure he'll make the last three as the others all produced performances with something lacking. If INXS can put up with JD's antics then, a collapse in the final not withstanding, then they could well go for him.

I think Mig is going to go next. He just doesn't have the growl for a rock singer and his moves still seem choreographed. I doubt it's the Australians that keep him out of the bottom three - the show's only on cable/sat tv here and they're not nearly as popular as in the US. I doubt there are 50,000 people watching the show here. I think he's picking up the teenage female audience vote. If he wins this then I'll go along with the 'ringer' argument

Suzie really screwed up in the interview when she froze. She's never struck me as the most intelligent or confident of the contestants and I think they may be right about problems with press conferances as well as an inability to really take control of the audience on stage. I think they and the program producers will want her in the last three though.

Marty? Great image, pity about the misalignment in the rock spectrum. Hard right against INXS's soft left. He may well also be a little too controlling, too confrontational on what the band needs to do.

Another good week though. Really enjoyed it. Will miss it when it goes.

Joe · 09-14-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

You know what would be really nice? If they could just pick a friggn' time slot and stick to it!! (I was getting ready to turn it on...oh well).

its been on at 9 est on wednesdays for a while, the tuesdays show is the later one

Joe · 09-14-2005, 09:16 PM

I think Mig really performed the INXS song tonight well. He could very well be picked. I don't know if hes a good songwriter or not, but the band isnt looking for that for the first album anyway, as they have all of the songs written already and just need someone to sing. They are planning to get it out as soon as possible after the show ends. I mean, of course they are, they've probably been just writing songs for the past 8 years, what the hell else have they been doing?

Ryche · 09-14-2005, 09:33 PM

I was rooting for Mig getting Devil Inside, I think that would have been a much better test of his ability. The song he got was right up his alley and he nailed it.

Ksyrup · 09-14-2005, 09:38 PM

I thought Mig overdid it quite a bit. He sounded very good, but his performance was bordering on ridiculous, combining the sex strut, ripped shirt, jumping around, etc., all in less than 3 minutes. I just thought that was way over the top. JD sounded great as well, though, I thought.

I still think Marty's being kept around because he's Sony's non-INXS signee, and they're giving him as much exposure as possible, including playing that Trees song over and over. Between that and Pretty Vegas, I'm leaning toward JD getting the nod for INXS. Both have been given multiple opportunities to perform a ready-made single several times for the target audience. Doesn't get packaged much neater than that.

sabotai · 09-14-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

its been on at 9 est on wednesdays for a while, the tuesdays show is the later one

Yeah, and every week I usually end up missing one or the other because they change the time slot from Tuesday to Wednesday.

Ksyrup · 09-14-2005, 09:54 PM

That's why at 8pm every night, I set DirecTV to automatically change channels to whatever I want to watch for the entire night, so I don't miss anything. For this show, I just remember 8, 10, 9. Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

HomerJSimpson · 09-14-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I thought Mig overdid it quite a bit. He sounded very good, but his performance was bordering on ridiculous, combining the sex strut, ripped shirt, jumping around, etc., all in less than 3 minutes. I just thought that was way over the top. JD sounded great as well, though, I thought.

I still think Marty's being kept around because he's Sony's non-INXS signee, and they're giving him as much exposure as possible, including playing that Trees song over and over. Between that and Pretty Vegas, I'm leaning toward JD getting the nod for INXS. Both have been given multiple opportunities to perform a ready-made single several times for the target audience. Doesn't get packaged much neater than that.

With ya, but I still think they'd been better off with Suzie.

jander · 09-14-2005, 10:50 PM

I still think there may be something funny going on...if you really think about how the "Pretty Vegas" song sounds totally like an INXS song music-wise. Does JD even play instruments? I have not seen it (but didn't follow from the beginning, if not...how did HE write that song?). Remember how evryone was pissed at JD that week when all the singers got some studio time with INXS and the complaining about JD being in there soooo long? Hmmm....who knows, but just something to think about.

I like Marty the best, but I hope he doesn't win. I think he would be better on his own, with his own style than INXS style. Mig, I don't know he is good I guess, but againjust don't know if I see him fronting INXS. The best fit is JD, even though his attitude sucks.

Mac Howard · 09-14-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jander

.if you really think about how the "Pretty Vegas" song sounds totally like an INXS song music-wise.

Isn't it the song JD wrote to the track INXS had laid down a couple of weeks back when the group selected Jordis' song?

Ksyrup · 09-15-2005, 06:57 AM

The music for Pretty Vegas was the track INXS gave those two groups to write a melody and lyrics to, and then perform. Ty's group did that, to quote Navarro, "Electric Company sounding" song Stop Go, and JD's group - minus JD, did a song I don't even remember, which JD refused to join in on. He wrote the Pretty Vegas melody and lyrics by himself, then upstaged everyone else and got to perform it solo. 700 times now, by my count.

I haven't followed up on this and don't know INXS' back catalog well enough to comment, but I recall Marty making a comment about how he didn't like what JD was doing with that song during the writing session because it sounded too much like an old INXS song, and he started singing another song with virtually the same melody. Anyone know what song that was? At this point, it probably doesn't matter, because half of INXS fans who would remember that song are probably in rocking chairs by now, but I've been wondering if that melody is really all that original to begin with.

Raven Hawk · 09-15-2005, 09:40 AM

The song the Jordis and Marty wrote to the INXS track was "Try Not" which was later rearranged by the house band (and Jordis) before Jordis sang it ala Fiona Apple a couple weeks ago. "Pretty Vegas" was written to the same track by JD. In the last "House" episode, there was a clip of JD opening his songs that he had to sing and noticing that "Pretty Vegas" was in there and it stated "Written by Andrew Farris and JD Fortune."

I think that they made a good call on Suzie last night. She just didn't have the PR skills that the rest have. Suzie will do well in her own arena and eventually, she will pick up those PR skills.

I hate the idea that Jordis and Suzie (or any of the remaining contestants) go solo. Rock is so much more of a 'group' thing to me than Pop is. I hope that each of them can hook up with good groups who can magnify their talent. I think that JD is the only one who could effectively maintain a solo career out of the top 5. I really don't think that MiG is a rockstar. MiG needs to go back to Broadway.

Hurst2112 · 09-15-2005, 11:48 AM

I am still scratchin my head on this whole Marty thing. I picked him to be gone weeks ago.

He is very pitchy in his singing. His song was campy, he's pretty pensive, and he looks like a girl.

Honestly, his vocals aren't that strong. He can't sing low with power. He screams in his half-octave range that he has. He strains too hard. He's not that good for a band like INXS. Maybe if Candlebox was looking for a new singer.

Ksyrup · 09-15-2005, 12:08 PM

My theory on Marty is that Sony sees him as a possible marketable commodity and kept him on the show to develop him and try to build an audience for him through the show. I think having him play Trees 6 million times plays right into that. I don't INXS has ever thought he would fit their band.

CamEdwards · 09-15-2005, 12:23 PM

Marty reminds me of the 2005 version of Richard Marx for some reason. Completely different singing styles, don't look alike. But everytime I see him I just want to cockpunch him. Just looking at Marty annoys the shit out of me.

Ksyrup · 09-15-2005, 01:02 PM

My wife, who listens to 80's rock and 2000s pop, doesn't get him AT ALL. I try to explain to her that he's a modern rock vocalist, but she just can't understand how anyone could like him - "he can't sing, he's ugly, and he screams." To which I point out that's why in rock/metal, they're called "vocalists," not "singers." There's a distinction that matters, and Marty is the perfect example.

Mac Howard · 09-15-2005, 09:40 PM

I was sorry to see Suzie go but Mig did do a worthwhile take in his playoff song. But he still looks to me like someone who could don a yellow teeshirt and become one of The Wiggles

Another conspiracy theory: we now have a final between an American, an Australian and a Canadian. Are they manipulating results for maximum world appeal?

HomerJSimpson · 09-16-2005, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac Howard

I was sorry to see Suzie go but Mig did do a worthwhile take in his playoff song. But he still looks to me like someone who could don a yellow teeshirt and become one of The Wiggles

Another conspiracy theory: we now have a final between an American, an Australian and a Canadian. Are they manipulating results for maximum world appeal?

I just don't see how Mig did a good job with that song. Too me it sounded like a Broadway version of the song, and his performance looked like a male stripper. As a matter of fact, just about all of his performance to emphasize his chest, not his singing ability. I guess if Suzie had gotten up there and took of her shirt, she'd still be in the competetion.

Mac Howard · 09-17-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

I just don't see how Mig did a good job with that song. Too me it sounded like a Broadway version of the song, and his performance looked like a male stripper.

Yes. The problem with Mig is that you can't take him seriously as a rock singer. His voice is too thin and his moves on stage too contrived. He's at the other end of the rock spectrum to Marty. JD is probably the best match to the band but, oh dear, could he be trouble for them on a personal level

Interesting how it now seems that there isn't a suitable fit despite the overall quality of the contestants. I must admit I've developed a considerable respect for a lead singer that I didn't have before this series.

Joe · 09-17-2005, 11:20 PM

have they said what the final show will be like? is each contestant going to sing with inxs or what? cause I think that would be pretty cool. and at this point, I think they should pick JD as well. Marty doesn't fit well with them and he clearly doesn't have the vocal range to sing their back catalogue, which could be a problem with touring being the main priority since their album is due out in late november. I kinda like Mig, but he's a bit over the top, though I like his stage presence. JD fits well but he's a prick. Most lead singers with his kinda attitude get put up with because their talent carries the band, but that clearly isnt the case here so it will be interesting.

Ksyrup · 09-19-2005, 07:13 AM

The writing sessions last night were pretty cool. I could have watched those unedited. Once again, JD worried them with his lack of preparation, but wowed them with his pure talent, just like he's done all season.

FrogMan · 09-19-2005, 07:23 AM

ARG! I hate that they moved the first show to VH1, that means we don't get that one up North...

FM

Joe · 09-19-2005, 05:50 PM

yeah, those songs they were writing with Andrew looked like they were coming along pretty well (except Migs sounded like it will suck).

And for anyone who didnt get to see it, they all got to choose a song to sing from the selection of all songs that have been done this season. Marty chose "Wish You Were Here", JD chose "You Cant Always Get What You Want" and Mig chose "Bohemian Rhapsody". Yeah, Mig wanted to get away from doing Queen stuff that he did in the musical, so hes doing that song. And Suzy killed that song earlier, so its not a wise choice. But ok.

Joe · 09-20-2005, 08:03 PM

anyone post about this yet? MiG was on the fucking Wiggles:

http://entertainment.news.com.au/sto...-10229,00.html

SegRat · 09-20-2005, 08:10 PM

Another reason to hate him.

It has to be JD tonight.

HomerJSimpson · 09-20-2005, 09:39 PM

MIG IS GONE!!! WHO-HOO!!! I feel like my team just won the Super Bowl. Well..not quite that good, but pretty darn good.

jbmagic · 09-20-2005, 09:42 PM

i tought Mig was suppose to win it all.

HomerJSimpson · 09-20-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i tought Mig was suppose to win it all.

Mig wasn't rigged.

HomerJSimpson · 09-20-2005, 09:47 PM

I know this is the Marty Bashing 101 club, but Marty did a much better job with his song IMHO. They may pick JD, but it will not be on that performance (and the sad thing is that JD had the much better/easier song).

Joe · 09-20-2005, 09:47 PM

JD couldnt even get through that song without getting some water between verses? weak.

Joe · 09-20-2005, 09:48 PM

i agree marty did better than JD..

HomerJSimpson · 09-20-2005, 09:53 PM

Well, it is JD. It wasn't from tonight, though. He was the over-all best fit.

Joe · 09-20-2005, 09:58 PM

so theres gonna be another season? i wonder which band, or if it will be AI like.

HomerJSimpson · 09-20-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

so theres gonna be another season? i wonder which band, or if it will be AI like.

Rock Star: Van Halen

Ksyrup · 09-20-2005, 10:11 PM

JD was clearly the guy to replace Hutchence; in a way, they wimped out, but picking a modern rock singer would have forced them to change the way they write, and they're too old for that. JD was the only choice, and in fact, once they dumped Mig, it was even clearer who they'd pick. Marty just didn't sound right singing their songs, and that's what it comes down to. You can't have Mr. Intensity/Robot Man (that dance he does)/Fake British Accent singing INXS songs.

Joe · 09-20-2005, 10:16 PM

I like the robot man

Ksyrup · 09-20-2005, 10:18 PM

I'm not saying I don't like him, but he's just not right for our band, INXS.

Ryche · 09-20-2005, 10:25 PM

I realized it had to be JD when he was singing What You Need. I tried hard to picture Marty singing that and there is just no way I could see him pulling it off.

09-14-2005, 07:09 AM	#201
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That's my favorite Stones song, too, that and Angie. I'm not into honky-tonkin' blues rock. Never been much of a Stones fan...I've never owned a single record. That said, you're right about his performance. He may be the ringer, but I'll still be surprised if he wins. In fact, if he does win, I think that means he definitely was the ringer, in that he was pre-chosen not just to be guaranteed a spot in the top 15 but to win, because he's shown himself as a singer who isn't right for this band. However, if the voting is on the up-and-up, it does say something that he's never been in the bottom three. Of course, that might have more to do with a rabid Australian following and a concerted effort to keep the band all-Australian then anything having to do with his ability. I think JD is the only choice at this point. Regardless of his personality, he is the best fit as both a lead singer and their lead singer. And he's given them a lead single that the audience has already been force-fed 3 or 4 times before it even gets to radio. In fact, in this day and age, his personality is probably a plus for him. The only question for the band is whether they can control him, but I think the fact that he's Jack Nobody and they're the unquestioned leaders of the band, should take care of that issue. That and some choice contractual provisions. It wouldn't shock me, if this joint venture is somehow successful, for him to get big-headed and desert the band at some point, but again, I'm sure the contract will have something to say about that possibility. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-14-2005, 08:47 AM	#202
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	I hope MiG is the next to go. He's got rock-star looks, but he's a show-tunes guy at heart. JD did give the best performance this week. I thought that Suzie's performance was weaker than it has been in the past. Marty gave a really strong performance as well. It would have been better if he didn't do his original, "Trees," as an accoustic set, though. I really think that JD and Marty are the ones to beat at this point. Even on the VH1 portion on Sunday, INXS said that they thought that these two handled the questions the best. The interesting thing is that Suzie and MiG are superior singers, but they just don't have the personality. My guess for tonight's show: JD, Marty, Suzie, MiG in that order, most votes to least votes. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

09-14-2005, 08:55 AM	#203
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I thought Marty's performance of Creep was pretty good, up until the end, where he started screaming and howling out of key. That was awful. Shows you the power of repetition to make something a hit, though. That damn Trees song has been stuck in my head all morning, and while I like it OK, I'm fairly certain it's only because I've heard it half a dozen times on this show that it's stuck in my head. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-14-2005, 09:04 AM	#204
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	At this point I think it has to be JD as well, barring Mig being a ringer of course. But I got the impression they were not enthused by Paint it Black either. Musicals are the perfect venue for Mig. The only thing holding them from picking JD would be the attitude, whether they want to deal with someone like that at their age. But then, I'm sure Hutchins wasn't the easiest person to deal with either and they managed. Marty just doesn't have the vocal abilities for this type of band and Suzie would be just too radical a change for them to handle most likely, both musically and personality wise. My guess is Marty leaves tonight just so they can keep a female on for the finale. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

09-14-2005, 03:08 PM	#206
Hurst2112 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis	I don't hope Mig goes. I got 1000 dollars riding on him @ 3:1! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/longliveanalog

09-14-2005, 02:33 PM	#205
dunkem Mascot Join Date: May 2001	Yeah, I think all of these guys are great singers, but only JD has the right voice for the band although he does act and say what you want him rather than how he really feels as some of the INXS member pointed out. Seems like MIG is letting nerves get to him like Jordis and he's not putting that energy in. His higher theatrical voice doesn't quite match with INXS stuff, and I guess we'll find out when he's in the bottom three tonight. Marty, good performer, catchy but corny song, but just not an INXS voice. I can't see Trees as the new INXS hit single, but I can definitely see it as Marty's hit on his own. Suzie was just alright last night, and similarly doesn't match the INXS sound. Seems like she tries too hard to "rock out" and would be better suited as a Sheryl Crow type rather than a member of a "rock band". Hilarious when everyone tried to include Navarro in their performances all the time trying to suck up to em by rubbing on him while he's playing. And dang.... that little smooch from JD... I dunno what he was thinking.

09-14-2005, 08:59 PM	#210
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	damn suzie got eliminated. wish it was JD, but it was fun to see him squirm a little bit.

09-14-2005, 09:01 PM	#211
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	If mig wins this thing I wont listen to inxs. Marty and JD are much better IMO. JD is probably best for INXS. I think Marty will end up in a bigger band. Mig needs to go. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

09-14-2005, 09:04 PM	#213
Mac Howard Sick as a Parrot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Surfers Paradise, Australia	JD moved into pole position for me also last night. For sure he'll make the last three as the others all produced performances with something lacking. If INXS can put up with JD's antics then, a collapse in the final not withstanding, then they could well go for him. I think Mig is going to go next. He just doesn't have the growl for a rock singer and his moves still seem choreographed. I doubt it's the Australians that keep him out of the bottom three - the show's only on cable/sat tv here and they're not nearly as popular as in the US. I doubt there are 50,000 people watching the show here. I think he's picking up the teenage female audience vote. If he wins this then I'll go along with the 'ringer' argument Suzie really screwed up in the interview when she froze. She's never struck me as the most intelligent or confident of the contestants and I think they may be right about problems with press conferances as well as an inability to really take control of the audience on stage. I think they and the program producers will want her in the last three though. Marty? Great image, pity about the misalignment in the rock spectrum. Hard right against INXS's soft left. He may well also be a little too controlling, too confrontational on what the band needs to do. Another good week though. Really enjoyed it. Will miss it when it goes. __________________ Mac Howard - a Pom in Paradise Last edited by Mac Howard : 09-14-2005 at 09:06 PM.

09-14-2005, 09:16 PM	#215
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	I think Mig really performed the INXS song tonight well. He could very well be picked. I don't know if hes a good songwriter or not, but the band isnt looking for that for the first album anyway, as they have all of the songs written already and just need someone to sing. They are planning to get it out as soon as possible after the show ends. I mean, of course they are, they've probably been just writing songs for the past 8 years, what the hell else have they been doing?

09-14-2005, 09:33 PM	#216
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	I was rooting for Mig getting Devil Inside, I think that would have been a much better test of his ability. The song he got was right up his alley and he nailed it. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

09-14-2005, 09:38 PM	#217
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I thought Mig overdid it quite a bit. He sounded very good, but his performance was bordering on ridiculous, combining the sex strut, ripped shirt, jumping around, etc., all in less than 3 minutes. I just thought that was way over the top. JD sounded great as well, though, I thought. I still think Marty's being kept around because he's Sony's non-INXS signee, and they're giving him as much exposure as possible, including playing that Trees song over and over. Between that and Pretty Vegas, I'm leaning toward JD getting the nod for INXS. Both have been given multiple opportunities to perform a ready-made single several times for the target audience. Doesn't get packaged much neater than that. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-14-2005, 09:54 PM	#219
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That's why at 8pm every night, I set DirecTV to automatically change channels to whatever I want to watch for the entire night, so I don't miss anything. For this show, I just remember 8, 10, 9. Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-14-2005, 10:50 PM	#221
jander n00b Join Date: Sep 2002	I still think there may be something funny going on...if you really think about how the "Pretty Vegas" song sounds totally like an INXS song music-wise. Does JD even play instruments? I have not seen it (but didn't follow from the beginning, if not...how did HE write that song?). Remember how evryone was pissed at JD that week when all the singers got some studio time with INXS and the complaining about JD being in there soooo long? Hmmm....who knows, but just something to think about. I like Marty the best, but I hope he doesn't win. I think he would be better on his own, with his own style than INXS style. Mig, I don't know he is good I guess, but againjust don't know if I see him fronting INXS. The best fit is JD, even though his attitude sucks.

09-15-2005, 06:57 AM	#223
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The music for Pretty Vegas was the track INXS gave those two groups to write a melody and lyrics to, and then perform. Ty's group did that, to quote Navarro, "Electric Company sounding" song Stop Go, and JD's group - minus JD, did a song I don't even remember, which JD refused to join in on. He wrote the Pretty Vegas melody and lyrics by himself, then upstaged everyone else and got to perform it solo. 700 times now, by my count. I haven't followed up on this and don't know INXS' back catalog well enough to comment, but I recall Marty making a comment about how he didn't like what JD was doing with that song during the writing session because it sounded too much like an old INXS song, and he started singing another song with virtually the same melody. Anyone know what song that was? At this point, it probably doesn't matter, because half of INXS fans who would remember that song are probably in rocking chairs by now, but I've been wondering if that melody is really all that original to begin with. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-15-2005, 09:40 AM	#224
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	The song the Jordis and Marty wrote to the INXS track was "Try Not" which was later rearranged by the house band (and Jordis) before Jordis sang it ala Fiona Apple a couple weeks ago. "Pretty Vegas" was written to the same track by JD. In the last "House" episode, there was a clip of JD opening his songs that he had to sing and noticing that "Pretty Vegas" was in there and it stated "Written by Andrew Farris and JD Fortune." I think that they made a good call on Suzie last night. She just didn't have the PR skills that the rest have. Suzie will do well in her own arena and eventually, she will pick up those PR skills. I hate the idea that Jordis and Suzie (or any of the remaining contestants) go solo. Rock is so much more of a 'group' thing to me than Pop is. I hope that each of them can hook up with good groups who can magnify their talent. I think that JD is the only one who could effectively maintain a solo career out of the top 5. I really don't think that MiG is a rockstar. MiG needs to go back to Broadway. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

09-15-2005, 11:48 AM	#225
Hurst2112 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis	I am still scratchin my head on this whole Marty thing. I picked him to be gone weeks ago. He is very pitchy in his singing. His song was campy, he's pretty pensive, and he looks like a girl. Honestly, his vocals aren't that strong. He can't sing low with power. He screams in his half-octave range that he has. He strains too hard. He's not that good for a band like INXS. Maybe if Candlebox was looking for a new singer. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/longliveanalog

09-15-2005, 12:08 PM	#226
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	My theory on Marty is that Sony sees him as a possible marketable commodity and kept him on the show to develop him and try to build an audience for him through the show. I think having him play Trees 6 million times plays right into that. I don't INXS has ever thought he would fit their band. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-15-2005, 12:23 PM	#227
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	Marty reminds me of the 2005 version of Richard Marx for some reason. Completely different singing styles, don't look alike. But everytime I see him I just want to cockpunch him. Just looking at Marty annoys the shit out of me. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

09-15-2005, 01:02 PM	#228
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	My wife, who listens to 80's rock and 2000s pop, doesn't get him AT ALL. I try to explain to her that he's a modern rock vocalist, but she just can't understand how anyone could like him - "he can't sing, he's ugly, and he screams." To which I point out that's why in rock/metal, they're called "vocalists," not "singers." There's a distinction that matters, and Marty is the perfect example. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-15-2005, 09:40 PM	#229
Mac Howard Sick as a Parrot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Surfers Paradise, Australia	I was sorry to see Suzie go but Mig did do a worthwhile take in his playoff song. But he still looks to me like someone who could don a yellow teeshirt and become one of The Wiggles Another conspiracy theory: we now have a final between an American, an Australian and a Canadian. Are they manipulating results for maximum world appeal? __________________ Mac Howard - a Pom in Paradise

09-17-2005, 11:20 PM	#232
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	have they said what the final show will be like? is each contestant going to sing with inxs or what? cause I think that would be pretty cool. and at this point, I think they should pick JD as well. Marty doesn't fit well with them and he clearly doesn't have the vocal range to sing their back catalogue, which could be a problem with touring being the main priority since their album is due out in late november. I kinda like Mig, but he's a bit over the top, though I like his stage presence. JD fits well but he's a prick. Most lead singers with his kinda attitude get put up with because their talent carries the band, but that clearly isnt the case here so it will be interesting.

09-19-2005, 07:13 AM	#233
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The writing sessions last night were pretty cool. I could have watched those unedited. Once again, JD worried them with his lack of preparation, but wowed them with his pure talent, just like he's done all season. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-19-2005, 07:23 AM	#234
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	ARG! I hate that they moved the first show to VH1, that means we don't get that one up North... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

09-19-2005, 05:50 PM	#235
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	yeah, those songs they were writing with Andrew looked like they were coming along pretty well (except Migs sounded like it will suck). And for anyone who didnt get to see it, they all got to choose a song to sing from the selection of all songs that have been done this season. Marty chose "Wish You Were Here", JD chose "You Cant Always Get What You Want" and Mig chose "Bohemian Rhapsody". Yeah, Mig wanted to get away from doing Queen stuff that he did in the musical, so hes doing that song. And Suzy killed that song earlier, so its not a wise choice. But ok.

09-20-2005, 08:03 PM	#236
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	anyone post about this yet? MiG was on the fucking Wiggles: http://entertainment.news.com.au/sto...-10229,00.html

09-20-2005, 08:10 PM	#237
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	Another reason to hate him. It has to be JD tonight. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

09-20-2005, 09:39 PM	#238
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	MIG IS GONE!!! WHO-HOO!!! I feel like my team just won the Super Bowl. Well..not quite that good, but pretty darn good. __________________ Marge: The plant called. They said if you don't come in tommorow, don't bother coming in Monday, either. Homer: Who-hoo! Four day weekend!!

09-20-2005, 09:42 PM	#239
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	i tought Mig was suppose to win it all.

09-20-2005, 09:47 PM	#241
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	I know this is the Marty Bashing 101 club, but Marty did a much better job with his song IMHO. They may pick JD, but it will not be on that performance (and the sad thing is that JD had the much better/easier song). __________________ Marge: The plant called. They said if you don't come in tommorow, don't bother coming in Monday, either. Homer: Who-hoo! Four day weekend!! Last edited by HomerJSimpson : 09-20-2005 at 09:47 PM.

09-20-2005, 09:47 PM	#242
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	JD couldnt even get through that song without getting some water between verses? weak.

09-20-2005, 09:48 PM	#243
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	i agree marty did better than JD..

09-20-2005, 09:53 PM	#244
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	Well, it is JD. It wasn't from tonight, though. He was the over-all best fit. __________________ Marge: The plant called. They said if you don't come in tommorow, don't bother coming in Monday, either. Homer: Who-hoo! Four day weekend!!

09-20-2005, 09:58 PM	#245
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	so theres gonna be another season? i wonder which band, or if it will be AI like.

09-20-2005, 10:11 PM	#247
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	JD was clearly the guy to replace Hutchence; in a way, they wimped out, but picking a modern rock singer would have forced them to change the way they write, and they're too old for that. JD was the only choice, and in fact, once they dumped Mig, it was even clearer who they'd pick. Marty just didn't sound right singing their songs, and that's what it comes down to. You can't have Mr. Intensity/Robot Man (that dance he does)/Fake British Accent singing INXS songs. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."