NFL Week 16 - What's better then the Redskins on Monday Night? Try Sunday Night too! - Page 5

EagleFan · 12-28-2009, 10:55 PM

How was that not a penalty on Favre after the play? Last I knew throwing the ball down was an automatic penalty while on the field.

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 10:55 PM

would be if it wasn't Favre.

kingfc22 · 12-28-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

How was that not a penalty on Favre after the play? Last I knew throwing the ball down was an automatic penalty while on the field.

Well that is because it was done by the oh holy one himself.

Coffee Warlord · 12-28-2009, 10:56 PM

Wow. Expected that from Cutler.

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Is it wrong that I want Favre to lose all the time.

Just want him to go away already.

Could it be that you secretly want to be him?

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 10:58 PM

AD Fail.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 10:59 PM

Clear fumble. Nice job by the defense.

Neuqua · 12-28-2009, 10:59 PM

Beautifully done by Hunter, Gould isn't gonna miss twice..

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 10:59 PM

Wonder if anyone else noticed that he was facemasked on the way down. sucks when you get facemasked tackled and fumble. how does that work if the penalty is called?

EagleFan · 12-28-2009, 10:59 PM

Fumble!!!!!!!!!

kingfc22 · 12-28-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Could it be that you secretly want to be him?

Fail.

sabotai · 12-28-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

How was that not a penalty on Favre after the play? Last I knew throwing the ball down was an automatic penalty while on the field.

I've seen players do that several times this year without it being called. The refs have gotten lazy about calling it in general.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Wonder if anyone else noticed that he was facemasked on the way down. sucks when you get facemasked tackled and fumble. how does that work if the penalty is called?

I disagree with him being facemasked, but if that penalty was called it would negate the fumble.

EagleFan · 12-28-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Wonder if anyone else noticed that he was facemasked on the way down. sucks when you get facemasked tackled and fumble. how does that work if the penalty is called?

Good question, no idea, probably depends on how the refs want the game to go at the time of the call.

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Wonder if anyone else noticed that he was facemasked on the way down. sucks when you get facemasked tackled and fumble. how does that work if the penalty is called?

Penalty from the spot of the foul. No fumble

Tigercat · 12-28-2009, 11:01 PM

OK, every team needs a guy upstairs to calm down these coaches with a dose of reality. Let them watch the TV feed if necessary. Calm down Childress and Peterson, that is a clear fumble. Although calling a timeout right now has benefits beyond giving the booth time to look at the play.

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I disagree with him being facemasked, but if that penalty was called it would negate the fumble.

thank you, yea watching it again I'm not sure , but it was close (facemask). definite fumble though.

EagleFan · 12-28-2009, 11:02 PM

Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:02 PM

YES! Perfect throw by Cutler.

Neuqua · 12-28-2009, 11:02 PM

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 11:02 PM

that guy is a player! sign him up long term! good game!

RedKingGold · 12-28-2009, 11:02 PM

ARRRRROUCHABABABABASCOOBYDOOBYDOO!

FOR THE WIN!

kingfc22 · 12-28-2009, 11:02 PM

I hope Philly takes the #2 seed.

Need some outdoor football in the NFC.

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 11:03 PM

AD must feel like shit right now. but he won me a fantasy super bowl tonite! don't feel too bad AD, you guys still will most likely be the 2 seed and I'm pretty sure you will be alright come playoff time.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

AD must feel like shit right now. but he won me a fantasy super bowl tonite! don't feel too bad AD, you guys still will most likely be the 2 seed and I'm pretty sure you will be alright come playoff time.

They aren't going to be the #2 seed. Philly will take care of business next week.

RedKingGold · 12-28-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

They aren't going to be the #2 seed. Philly will take care of business next week.

Yes, yes they will.

Matthean · 12-28-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I hope Philly takes the #2 seed.

Need some outdoor football in the NFC.

I bet Favre doesn't like the idea of being a #3 seed having to play at Philly.

Neuqua · 12-28-2009, 11:06 PM

Somewhere jbergey is hitting his head against a wall.

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

AD must feel like shit right now. but he won me a fantasy super bowl tonite! don't feel too bad AD, you guys still will most likely be the 2 seed and I'm pretty sure you will be alright come playoff time.

We are a coach away from being alright come playoff time.

Childress called his nice conservative game to get them down 16-0 before opening it up and watching the offense take off. Next week it goes right back to conservative game calling.

Its like Childress got tired of Favres success so he is trying to muzzle it all up.

sabotai · 12-28-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

They aren't going to be the #2 seed. Philly will take care of business next week.

Does Philly have the tie breaker over the Vikes? (Because if you're counting on the Giants to beat Minnesota next week.....)

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Somewhere jbergey is hitting his head against a wall.

Nope. The Vikings are what they are until Childress opens the game up. Im hoping this was a good thing so dipshit coach can realize the Vikings play their best when opening it up.

If they let Favre pass the ball they are one of the best teams in the NFL, if Childress thinks they can run the ball and score, they will be out in the 1st round whoever they play.

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Does Philly have the tie breaker over the Vikes? (Because if you're counting on the Giants to beat Minnesota next week.....)

yes they do

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

They aren't going to be the #2 seed. Philly will take care of business next week.

far from a gimme though @ Dallas. if Philly doesn't thought and the Vikings get the 2 seed, seeing as they are undefeated at home this season, I can see them making the playoffs a pretty good race.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Does Philly have the tie breaker over the Vikes? (Because if you're counting on the Giants to beat Minnesota next week.....)

Yes, Philly controls their destiny for the #2 seed.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

far from a gimme though @ Dallas. if Philly doesn't thought and the Vikings get the 2 seed, seeing as they are undefeated at home this season, I can see them making the playoffs a pretty good race.

True, but after floundering in the middle of the season, Philly is peaking at the right time. I feel very good about their chances of winning next week.

mauchow · 12-28-2009, 11:24 PM

So lets say this scenario happens:

Vikes Win, Cards Lose, Cowboys Win.

Saints #1, Vikes #2, Cowboys #3, Cards #4, #5 Packers, #6 Eagles. That is crazy, to go from playing for a #2 seed to becoming the #6 seed and causing two matchups that happened the week before.

Pack vs Cards and Eagles at Cowboys. Hilarious. Packers @ Saints, Eagles @ Vikings (I would pick Eagles over them this time...)

If Vikes lose, Cards win, Eagles Win.... the seedings change completely.

Saints, Eagles, Cards, Vikes, Packers, Cowboys.

Cowboys @ Cards, Packers @ Vikes --- Cards win, Vikes win, Vikes @ Saints, Cards @ Eagles. I'll take my chances with that as a Vikings fan.

One way or another, the playoffs should be exciting...but we get one more week of this excitement.. or in the Vikings fan's case, one more week of what the hell is Childress doing?

k0ruptr · 12-28-2009, 11:30 PM

It's also crazy that if the vikes and eagles lose, and cards win, the cards get the #2 seed!

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

It's also crazy that if the vikes and eagles lose, and cards win, the cards get the #2 seed!

Could happen!

Senator · 12-28-2009, 11:33 PM

I enjoy the dismissal of Dallas, see you next week my sweet bitches.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

I enjoy the dismissal of Dallas, see you next week my sweet bitches.

Philly is on a 6 game winning streak. Dallas has big game Romo and Wade Phillips. I'd be glad to place a bet on Philly any time with that scenario.

Senator · 12-28-2009, 11:38 PM

Let's do one. I get points.

miami_fan · 12-28-2009, 11:39 PM

Why is it so fucking hard for analysts to just say that the rules for coaching Favre are different then the rules for coaching any an everyone else? The rules are not the same for everyone. All that bullshit coachspeak about treating everyone the same and having everyone follow the same rules is just that.....BULLSHIT COACHSPEAK. It is not as big of a deal as people make of it when another star player goes outside of what his coach wants if he feels it is best for the team whether it is Brett Favre or not.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-28-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

I enjoy the dismissal of Dallas, see you next week my sweet bitches.

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Originally Posted by Senator

Let's do one. I get points.

That doesn't sound like the smack talk of someone seeking points, but sure I'd give a few points.

jbergey22 · 12-28-2009, 11:48 PM

Cowboys are -3 according to Vegas.

Senator · 12-28-2009, 11:48 PM

I am a fan by choice; practical by necessity.

EagleFan · 12-28-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

I enjoy the dismissal of Dallas, see you next week my sweet bitches.

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Originally Posted by Senator

Let's do one. I get points.

That's funny...

EagleFan · 12-29-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Cowboys are -3 according to Vegas.

So 27 should be getting points...

jbergey22 · 12-29-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

So 27 should be getting points...

He should be yes. Id say Cowboys -2.5 would be a fair number. -3 seems like a ton of value for the Eagles.

BishopMVP · 12-29-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Winning two in a row after losing five in a row is coming on strong?

When those two wins are over Green Bay and Baltimore after being effectively out of the playoff race I'd say it qualifies.

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I wouldnt really call 13-2 collapsing. For that matter I wouldnt call 10-5 or 11-3 collapsing either.

That's probably why I said collapsing or regressing.

But yes, 10-5 can be collapsing if you start 7-2 and then go 3-3 with single-digit wins at home over Cleveland, Detroit and Kansas City - and lose one of your best defensive players as icing on the cake. Or even when you're 13-2 if you started 11-0, looked unbeatable against a good team, then proceeded to beat a terrible team only because of an epic collapse and lost 2 straight at home, including to one of the worst teams in the NFL when trying to clinch homefield. And 11-4 can be too when you start 10-1 and are subsequently getting destroyed at the line of scrimmage by under .500 teams.

jbergey22 · 12-29-2009, 01:14 AM

Your expecations are a little high I believe. It is the NFL. The Vikings seem to have fallen off from the high expectations they had earlier because Childress is an idiot but the other two teams seem fine. The Vikings are notorious for this type of thing so its really not unexpected. Started 5-0 one year didnt make the playoffs. Only 15-1 team to not make the Super Bowl. Lost 4 Super Bowls. They are as cursed franchise as there is in the NFL.

The Eagles lost to the Raiders as the Saints lost to the Bucs as the Vikings lost to the Bears.

I dont think anyone really thought the Bengals were any higher than a 6th-12th best team which is how they have been playing IMO.

The Titans lost 59-0 and followed it by winning 7 out of 8 games.

When I think of collapse I think of the Mets blowing a huge lead a couple of years ago or the Tigers epic collapse to the Twins this year.

Even the Best(or 2nd best) team IMO in NFL history lost their most important game of the year. 2007 Pats.

Long story short. I think its hard to judge a collapse in the NFL as the sample size is really small playing only 16 games.

12-28-2009, 10:55 PM	#202
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	would be if it wasn't Favre. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-28-2009, 10:58 PM	#206
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	AD Fail. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-28-2009, 10:59 PM	#207
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Clear fumble. Nice job by the defense. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-28-2009, 10:59 PM	#208
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Beautifully done by Hunter, Gould isn't gonna miss twice.. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

12-28-2009, 10:59 PM	#209
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Wonder if anyone else noticed that he was facemasked on the way down. sucks when you get facemasked tackled and fumble. how does that work if the penalty is called? __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-28-2009, 10:55 PM	#201
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	How was that not a penalty on Favre after the play? Last I knew throwing the ball down was an automatic penalty while on the field.

12-28-2009, 10:56 PM	#204
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Wow. Expected that from Cutler.

12-28-2009, 10:59 PM	#210
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Fumble!!!!!!!!!

12-28-2009, 11:01 PM	#216
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	OK, every team needs a guy upstairs to calm down these coaches with a dose of reality. Let them watch the TV feed if necessary. Calm down Childress and Peterson, that is a clear fumble. Although calling a timeout right now has benefits beyond giving the booth time to look at the play.

12-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#218
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#219
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	YES! Perfect throw by Cutler. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#220
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

12-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#221
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	that guy is a player! sign him up long term! good game! __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#222
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	ARRRRROUCHABABABABASCOOBYDOOBYDOO! FOR THE WIN!

12-28-2009, 11:02 PM	#223
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I hope Philly takes the #2 seed. Need some outdoor football in the NFC. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

12-28-2009, 11:03 PM	#224
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	AD must feel like shit right now. but he won me a fantasy super bowl tonite! don't feel too bad AD, you guys still will most likely be the 2 seed and I'm pretty sure you will be alright come playoff time. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-28-2009, 11:06 PM	#228
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Somewhere jbergey is hitting his head against a wall. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

12-28-2009, 11:24 PM	#236
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	So lets say this scenario happens: Vikes Win, Cards Lose, Cowboys Win. Saints #1, Vikes #2, Cowboys #3, Cards #4, #5 Packers, #6 Eagles. That is crazy, to go from playing for a #2 seed to becoming the #6 seed and causing two matchups that happened the week before. Pack vs Cards and Eagles at Cowboys. Hilarious. Packers @ Saints, Eagles @ Vikings (I would pick Eagles over them this time...) If Vikes lose, Cards win, Eagles Win.... the seedings change completely. Saints, Eagles, Cards, Vikes, Packers, Cowboys. Cowboys @ Cards, Packers @ Vikes --- Cards win, Vikes win, Vikes @ Saints, Cards @ Eagles. I'll take my chances with that as a Vikings fan. One way or another, the playoffs should be exciting...but we get one more week of this excitement.. or in the Vikings fan's case, one more week of what the hell is Childress doing?

12-28-2009, 11:30 PM	#237
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	It's also crazy that if the vikes and eagles lose, and cards win, the cards get the #2 seed! __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

12-28-2009, 11:33 PM	#239
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I enjoy the dismissal of Dallas, see you next week my sweet bitches. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

12-28-2009, 11:38 PM	#241
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Let's do one. I get points. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

12-28-2009, 11:39 PM	#242
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Why is it so fucking hard for analysts to just say that the rules for coaching Favre are different then the rules for coaching any an everyone else? The rules are not the same for everyone. All that bullshit coachspeak about treating everyone the same and having everyone follow the same rules is just that.....BULLSHIT COACHSPEAK. It is not as big of a deal as people make of it when another star player goes outside of what his coach wants if he feels it is best for the team whether it is Brett Favre or not. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-28-2009, 11:48 PM	#244
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Cowboys are -3 according to Vegas.

12-28-2009, 11:48 PM	#245
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I am a fan by choice; practical by necessity. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

12-29-2009, 01:14 AM	#250
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Your expecations are a little high I believe. It is the NFL. The Vikings seem to have fallen off from the high expectations they had earlier because Childress is an idiot but the other two teams seem fine. The Vikings are notorious for this type of thing so its really not unexpected. Started 5-0 one year didnt make the playoffs. Only 15-1 team to not make the Super Bowl. Lost 4 Super Bowls. They are as cursed franchise as there is in the NFL. The Eagles lost to the Raiders as the Saints lost to the Bucs as the Vikings lost to the Bears. I dont think anyone really thought the Bengals were any higher than a 6th-12th best team which is how they have been playing IMO. The Titans lost 59-0 and followed it by winning 7 out of 8 games. When I think of collapse I think of the Mets blowing a huge lead a couple of years ago or the Tigers epic collapse to the Twins this year. Even the Best(or 2nd best) team IMO in NFL history lost their most important game of the year. 2007 Pats. Long story short. I think its hard to judge a collapse in the NFL as the sample size is really small playing only 16 games. Last edited by jbergey22 : 12-29-2009 at 10:13 AM.

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