Official Fire Can't Cameron / Release Trinterception Green / Kill Hizinger Thread - Page 5

larrymcg421 · 11-27-2007, 08:04 AM

How do you not attempt the FG? Yeah, the conditions were bad and the previous attempt didn't look good, but the entire offense looked like shit, so why are they suddenly going to convert a 4th and 11? Also, if you don't want to kick a FG, then how the fuck are you going to win the game?

Rizon · 12-02-2007, 03:22 PM

Weekly bump. I'm afraid the entire Lolphins front office and coaching staff must die in order for this team to win again.

Kang · 12-02-2007, 08:09 PM

Yeah, if we can't beat the Jets (or even give them a game), what hope is there for us?

bulletsponge · 12-03-2007, 09:44 AM

Raiders fans are missing a golden opportunity for revenge for thier "Raiders looking good in preseason" thread last year

miked · 12-07-2007, 12:30 PM

Somebody just forwarded me this email...
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Little Johnny was in his 4th grade class when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up - Fireman, Truck Driver,

Salesman, etc. Johnny was being uncharacteristically quiet and so the teacher asked him about his father.

"My father's an exotic dancer in a gay bar and takes off all his clothes in front of other men. Sometimes, if the offer's really good, he'll go out to the alley with some guy for money." The teacher, obviously shaken by his statement immediately changed the subject and hurriedly set the other children to work on a coloring project.

She then took Little Johnny aside and asked him, "Is
that really true about your father?"

"No," said Johnny, "He's the defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins . I was just too embarrassed to say that.

sterlingice · 12-07-2007, 10:56 PM

That joke's been around a while in many variations but I suppose if the shoe fits here...

SI

SFL Cat · 12-07-2007, 11:28 PM

Bah! Cam Cameron is a genius! 0-16 is simply part of his brilliant long-range strategy.

larrymcg421 · 12-16-2007, 03:26 PM

Bumping this just as a reminder that Cameron still needs to go. And the reason he needs to go was more evident in this game than any other, eventhough we won.

Izulde · 12-16-2007, 03:31 PM

Agreed.

Cringer · 12-16-2007, 03:32 PM

I want his ass fired today, for blowing the winless season. Asshole.

Johnny93g · 12-16-2007, 03:48 PM

I am so Happy right now!!!

We Dolphins fans needed that.

larrymcg421 · 12-16-2007, 04:15 PM

In the press conference after the game, Cam Cameron was gushing about how the players were throwing stuff at him after the gane. Somehow I picture Cam as being like Michael Scott from The Office and not quite understanding why the stuff they're throwing at him was so heavy.

Rizon · 12-16-2007, 06:42 PM

All the Cam supporters coming out and saying he's the best coach of all time. Sick.

Butter · 12-17-2007, 07:01 AM

I saw ESPNEWS report that Huizenga had met with some real estate developers or something about selling the team. That should make a lot of you happy.

RomaGoth · 12-17-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I saw ESPNEWS report that Huizenga had met with some real estate developers or something about selling the team. That should make a lot of you happy.

Doesn't make me happy until the sale is final and Huizenga takes a shuttle to Mars without oxygen.

RomaGoth · 12-17-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

In the press conference after the game, Cam Cameron was gushing about how the players were throwing stuff at him after the gane. Somehow I picture Cam as being like Michael Scott from The Office and not quite understanding why the stuff they're throwing at him was so heavy.

They should have thrown both coordinators at him.....

Kodos · 12-17-2007, 11:45 AM

Hey, it's reason to hope! That news, plus the win over Baltimore, made yesterday the best day Dolphins fans have had in quite some time!

RomaGoth · 12-17-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Hey, it's reason to hope! That news, plus the win over Baltimore, made yesterday the best day Dolphins fans have had in quite some time!

It is too bad that Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas will not go out as champions (unless they get traded). Even then, it won't be as Dolphins.

Kodos · 12-17-2007, 12:08 PM

My hope is that they get packaged and sent to the Colts. That would give them a chance to go out as champions.

RomaGoth · 12-17-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

My hope is that they get packaged and sent to the Colts. That would give them a chance to go out as champions.

Miami should have done that last year. I don't think the Colts will beat NE this year. I have thought that maybe San Diego would be a good choice, they have a decent chance of beating Indy. Otherwise, Pittsburgh could use the help too.

Kodos · 12-17-2007, 12:30 PM

I am praying for an absolute blizzard for Colts at Patriots in the playoffs. The Pats don't have much of a running game.

rkmsuf · 12-17-2007, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

I am praying for an absolute blizzard for Colts at Patriots in the playoffs. The Pats don't have much of a running game.

NE averages 4.0 yards a carry as a team. Indy 3.8 ypc. Colts 1,504 yards rushing, Pats 1,609.

Just sayin.

gstelmack · 12-17-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

NE averages 4.0 yards a carry as a team. Indy 3.8 ypc. Colts 1,504 yards rushing, Pats 1,609.

Just sayin.

Yeah, Maroney "only" got 104 yards yesterday in the freezing rain. Bring on the snow!

rkmsuf · 12-17-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Yeah, Maroney "only" got 104 yards yesterday in the freezing rain. Bring on the snow!

they aren't great running it but are a bit underestimated

scoring at will and then only getting 4 or 5 a pop makes it seem pedestrian.

yes maroney tends to dance a little but the running game is serviceable or at least better than given credit for.

Kodos · 12-17-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Yeah, Maroney "only" got 104 yards yesterday in the freezing rain. Bring on the snow!

Against the Jets....

New England has shown they are vulnerable to teams that can pound it. And New England has been passing the ball effectively. Nothing like a nice blizzard to negate the passing game and take advantage of their unimpressive running game.

But I'm sure you guys would never admit that the Pats could be beaten...

rkmsuf · 12-17-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Against the Jets....

New England has shown they are vulnerable to teams that can pound it. And New England has been passing the ball effectively. Nothing like a nice blizzard to take advantage of those things.

But I'm sure you guys would never admit that the Pats could be beaten...

you said the pats don't have much of a running game. that's it.

Butter · 12-17-2007, 01:29 PM

The reason the Pats have so many rushing yards is because they have been largely rushing the ball late in games against defenses that have given up.

Look at the NFL stats. Pats have the fewest 20+ yard runs in the league with 2. I wouldn't exactly be afraid of their running game.

rkmsuf · 12-17-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The reason the Pats have so many rushing yards is because they have been largely rushing the ball late in games against defenses that have given up.

Look at the NFL stats. Pats have the fewest 20+ yard runs in the league with 2. I wouldn't exactly be afraid of their running game.

Wait, I thought they were running it up?

Besides, who said afraid. It's serviceable to the point that it's not a hinderance. That's it. It's not terrible. It's not the Vikings. Middle of the road which is fine.

Kodos · 12-17-2007, 02:35 PM

It sucks.

gstelmack · 12-17-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

I am praying for an absolute blizzard for Colts at Patriots in the playoffs. The Pats don't have much of a running game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Nothing like a nice blizzard to negate the passing game and take advantage of their unimpressive running game

Which one is it? Is the blizzard going to kill the Pats because they can't run, or is the blizzard going to help them run? I'm confused.

Kodos · 12-17-2007, 03:11 PM

The blizzard will kill the Pat's passing game and force them to employ their subpar running game. Advantage: Other team.

Other teams have shown that it is possible to pound the run on the Patriots, which can still be done in blizzard conditions. Advantage: Other team.

Which part aren't you understanding?

Noop · 12-17-2007, 03:17 PM

Kodos.... you should type slower.

Synovia · 12-17-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

they aren't great running it but are a bit underestimated

scoring at will and then only getting 4 or 5 a pop makes it seem pedestrian.

yes maroney tends to dance a little but the running game is serviceable or at least better than given credit for.

Only 4 or 5 a pop, but absolutely no runs for losses, no stuffs.

Their run game is great.

Synovia · 12-17-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The reason the Pats have so many rushing yards is because they have been largely rushing the ball late in games against defenses that have given up.

Look at the NFL stats. Pats have the fewest 20+ yard runs in the league with 2. I wouldn't exactly be afraid of their running game.

Thats because its tough to have really long runs when the safeties are back in pass coverage. Long runs tend to come on plays where the safeties are UP playing the run, but get blocked.

The patriots have the 2nd highest success rate running the ball in the NFL. (Runs of 40% of required yards on 1st, 60% on 2nd, 100% on 3rd).

Synovia · 12-17-2007, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

The blizzard will kill the Pat's passing game and force them to employ their subpar running game. Advantage: Other team.

Other teams have shown that it is possible to pound the run on the Patriots, which can still be done in blizzard conditions. Advantage: Other team.

Which part aren't you understanding?

I suggest you look at some advanced stats. The patriots running game/run defense is fine.

They've been getting run on a lot by teams that are down 20+ points, while they're in the nickle.

Pittsburgh did such a great job pounding the ball, didn't they?

gstelmack · 12-17-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

The blizzard will kill the Pat's passing game and force them to employ their subpar running game. Advantage: Other team.

Other teams have shown that it is possible to pound the run on the Patriots, which can still be done in blizzard conditions. Advantage: Other team.

Which part aren't you understanding?

The part where you call their running game "subpar". I pointed out that in their one blizzard game this year, Maroney had a pretty nice showing. Your only excuse was it was the Jets. A team with a pretty decent defense, it's been their offense that has killed them this year.

Rizon · 12-17-2007, 07:43 PM

How did this get into a Pats/Colts thread? Keep it with whining about the Lolphins. Don't rain on my pity party.

Vinatieri for Prez · 12-19-2007, 01:24 AM

Wherever Kodos appears, Pats bashing is sure to follow.

Vinatieri for Prez · 12-19-2007, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synovia

Only 4 or 5 a pop, but absolutely no runs for losses, no stuffs.

Their run game is great.

Another stat to prove it: 47.5 -- The percentage of Patriots rushing attempts that have gained four or more yards this season, the highest total in the NFL.

Butter · 12-19-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

Another stat to prove it: 47.5 -- The percentage of Patriots rushing attempts that have gained four or more yards this season, the highest total in the NFL.

Because, as Synovia said, everyone is back playing the pass. Get everybody in the box, and their running game is awful. Get in some of these bad weather games, and the Pats aren't going to look quite so dominant. I mean, let's be honest, beating the Jets 20-10 is pretty blah after destroying everybody else by 269 points or however much it's been.

I think Kodos is overstating his point a bit due to hate, but the point is valid. The best chance to beat the Patriots will actually be as a result of their home field advantage... the opponents will just have to hope for some seriously cruddy weather and a couple of breaks. Because the Pats won't beat people pounding the ball down the field.

Kodos · 12-19-2007, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

Wherever Kodos appears, Pats bashing is sure to follow.

Listen to the man. He speaks reason!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I think Kodos is overstating his point a bit due to hate, but the point is valid. The best chance to beat the Patriots will actually be as a result of their home field advantage... the opponents will just have to hope for some seriously cruddy weather and a couple of breaks. Because the Pats won't beat people pounding the ball down the field.

Listen to the man. He speaks reason!

sterlingice · 12-19-2007, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Against the Jets....

New England has shown they are vulnerable to teams that can pound it. And New England has been passing the ball effectively. Nothing like a nice blizzard to negate the passing game and take advantage of their unimpressive running game.

But I'm sure you guys would never admit that the Pats could be beaten...

Who'd have thought we'd be talking about the Colts/Pats and the Colts and Peyton Manning having the advantage if the passing game was negated?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

How did this get into a Pats/Colts thread? Keep it with whining about the Lolphins. Don't rain on my pity party.

But, anyways, back to what Rizon said

SI

Vinatieri for Prez · 12-20-2007, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Because, as Synovia said, everyone is back playing the pass. Get everybody in the box, and their running game is awful. Get in some of these bad weather games, and the Pats aren't going to look quite so dominant. I mean, let's be honest, beating the Jets 20-10 is pretty blah after destroying everybody else by 269 points or however much it's been.

I think Kodos is overstating his point a bit due to hate, but the point is valid. The best chance to beat the Patriots will actually be as a result of their home field advantage... the opponents will just have to hope for some seriously cruddy weather and a couple of breaks. Because the Pats won't beat people pounding the ball down the field.

Um, most teams running games are awful if up against everybody in the box. But I would agree bad weather will help opponents. My counterpoint is that doesn't necessarily make the Pats beatable. They still play great in bad weather -- they've won SBs on it. Whereas the Colts barely play a bad weather game all season.

And even in bad weather (absent a blizzard), the Pats will still be willing to throw the ball, so I can't see how a team ever will be able to put everyone in the box against the Pats. The Jets game is a perfect example. Critics point out that the 4-5 yards a pop was only because the Jets were playing the pass. And that's right. But that's why the Pats ran the ball. I can tell you right now that if the Jets had put even 8 in the box in this foul weathered game, the Pats would have chucked it with success. Hell, Pennington and his crappy arm did pretty well in it. You see, it's precisely because they will never have to face everyone in the box that they don't have to worry about it. Any team doing it would be committing defensive suicide. Even in bad weather, you can throw 5-15 yard passes at will.

I'll just repeat what I said months ago. There is only now one game that matters in the whole season -- Pats v. Colts. I don't believe any other playoff team has a chance against the Pats - bad weather or not. In a bad weather Pats/Colts matchup I give the advantage to the Pats. Both teams rely on the pass so that will hurt them. I admit the Colts running game is better so that will help them. But I don't believe the Colts play very well in cold/bad weather.

Kodos · 12-20-2007, 07:26 AM

The Colts certainly didn't win a Super Bowl in bad weather...

Butter · 12-20-2007, 07:35 AM

Sorry, Dolphin fans. Sounds like Huizenga was almost out... then Parcells shows up.

What are the fans thoughts on this?

Izulde · 12-20-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Sorry, Dolphin fans. Sounds like Huizenga was almost out... then Parcells shows up.

What are the fans thoughts on this?

As long as it means a GM and coach switch-out, I'm willing to ride the storm.

Kodos · 12-20-2007, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde

As long as it means a GM and coach switch-out, I'm willing to ride the storm.

+1

I really dislike Parcells, but if he can clean house, I can live with him.

Kodos · 02-05-2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I think Kodos is overstating his point a bit due to hate, but the point is valid. The best chance to beat the Patriots will actually be as a result of their home field advantage... the opponents will just have to hope for some seriously cruddy weather and a couple of breaks. Because the Pats won't beat people pounding the ball down the field.

I was wrong. The Pats running game is AWESOME.

Toddzilla · 02-05-2008, 03:55 AM

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larrymcg421 · 09-22-2008, 12:38 PM

11-27-2007, 08:04 AM	#201
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	How do you not attempt the FG? Yeah, the conditions were bad and the previous attempt didn't look good, but the entire offense looked like shit, so why are they suddenly going to convert a 4th and 11? Also, if you don't want to kick a FG, then how the fuck are you going to win the game? __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

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12-16-2007, 03:26 PM	#208
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Bumping this just as a reminder that Cameron still needs to go. And the reason he needs to go was more evident in this game than any other, eventhough we won. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

12-16-2007, 03:31 PM	#209
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12-02-2007, 08:09 PM	#203
Kang n00b Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rigel IV	Yeah, if we can't beat the Jets (or even give them a game), what hope is there for us?

12-03-2007, 09:44 AM	#204
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	Raiders fans are missing a golden opportunity for revenge for thier "Raiders looking good in preseason" thread last year

12-07-2007, 11:28 PM	#207
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	Bah! Cam Cameron is a genius! 0-16 is simply part of his brilliant long-range strategy.

12-16-2007, 03:32 PM	#210
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12-16-2007, 04:15 PM	#212
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	In the press conference after the game, Cam Cameron was gushing about how the players were throwing stuff at him after the gane. Somehow I picture Cam as being like Michael Scott from The Office and not quite understanding why the stuff they're throwing at him was so heavy. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

12-17-2007, 07:01 AM	#214
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I saw ESPNEWS report that Huizenga had met with some real estate developers or something about selling the team. That should make a lot of you happy. __________________ My listening habits

12-17-2007, 11:45 AM	#217
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12-17-2007, 12:08 PM	#219
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	My hope is that they get packaged and sent to the Colts. That would give them a chance to go out as champions.

12-17-2007, 12:30 PM	#221
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I am praying for an absolute blizzard for Colts at Patriots in the playoffs. The Pats don't have much of a running game.

12-17-2007, 01:29 PM	#227
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	The reason the Pats have so many rushing yards is because they have been largely rushing the ball late in games against defenses that have given up. Look at the NFL stats. Pats have the fewest 20+ yard runs in the league with 2. I wouldn't exactly be afraid of their running game. __________________ My listening habits

12-17-2007, 02:35 PM	#229
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	It sucks.

12-17-2007, 03:11 PM	#231
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	The blizzard will kill the Pat's passing game and force them to employ their subpar running game. Advantage: Other team. Other teams have shown that it is possible to pound the run on the Patriots, which can still be done in blizzard conditions. Advantage: Other team. Which part aren't you understanding?

12-17-2007, 03:17 PM	#232
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12-19-2007, 01:24 AM	#238
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Wherever Kodos appears, Pats bashing is sure to follow.

12-20-2007, 07:26 AM	#244
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	The Colts certainly didn't win a Super Bowl in bad weather...

12-20-2007, 07:35 AM	#245
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