Official College Football Thread - Championship Week

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

How can it be so difficult for players to go into the end zone with the football and then give it to the ref? Why is that challenging for these some of these idiots?

Honey Badger is usually a very aware player, so I will assume this is a one time brain fart. Still, yes, make sure you are well into the end zone, why the hell not? Still can't believe that Desean Jackson has done it three times in front of the cameras.

[TroyF]

SEC replay refs trying to ensure LSU gets a W. The punt return shouldn't have been a TD and should have been Georgia ball 1st and 10 at the 20 after the ball goes out of bound out of the end zone. Good job fellas. Make sure you keep your cash.

[whomario]

What an awesome punt under pressure by Wing Both punters have been stellar.

Have a hard time seeing Georgia winning it though, would have to be up by more points i´m afraid, can´t see LSU playing as poor in the 2nd half.

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by TroyF

SEC replay refs trying to ensure LSU gets a W. The punt return shouldn't have been a TD and should have been Georgia ball 1st and 10 at the 20 after the ball goes out of bound out of the end zone. Good job fellas. Make sure you keep your cash.

Eh? Do you think that in every instance of a TD every camera view is instantaneously fed to the booth and they look through all of them even when there isn't an obvious question? No one questioned the return at the time. If basically no one else notices how close that type of thing is, the ref booths won't notice how close it is either to review it.

Now if you want to question some no calls on questionable blocks around the shoulders on that return, that would at least make sense.

[Tigercat]

Ha! "Dr. Pepper is seriously the best thing to ever happen to me!" Best result/reaction ever for a sports contest sponsor?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Here's to hoping that Georgia wins to end this BCS charade that "every game matters".

But we've already had it. Multiple times. And it doesn't matter. The chaos is fun but the charade will continue.

2001 and 2006 each had 2x 1 loss teams playing an undefeated team: Nebraska/Oregon and Florida/Michigan
2003 was a mess to the point where there was a split champion and they changed the system
2005 had 3 undefeated teams at 1-3 (USC, Oklahoma, Auburn) and also 11-0 Utah and there's no champion for that year because USC had to vacate
2007 has 1-loss #1 Ohio State playing #2 2-loss LSU; #3-#5 all had 2 losses
2008 had 5 1-loss teams thrown into a hat and drawn at random
2009 was the opposite with 5 undefeated teams: Alabama, Texas, Cincinnati, TCU, and Boise State

If LSU loses tonight, it will be most like 2008. And you know on Monday, there will be Jim Rome or whatever other little tools are out talking about the BCS and how every game matters and how if Oklahoma State/Stanford/Virginia Tech, wanted to be in the title game, they shouldn't have lost. Of course, neglecting the fact that the rule doesn't apply to Alabama or LSU (if they lose tonight).

SI

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Eh? Do you think that in every instance of a TD every camera view is instantaneously fed to the booth and they look through all of them even when there isn't an obvious question? No one questioned the return at the time. If basically no one else notices how close that type of thing is, the ref booths won't notice how close it is either to review it.

Now if you want to question some no calls on questionable blocks around the shoulders on that return, that would at least make sense.

Those were blatantly obvious, I didn't figure I needed to comment on them because of how ridiculous the return was to begin with.

I thought it was obviously close from the start and have no idea how they didn't double or triple check all replays before they kicked the point after. Then again, I know why they didn't. It's the SEC afterall.

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I thought it was obviously close from the start

Then you were one of the 1% (one of which probably informed CBS about it, NONE of their camera guys or directors saw it, thus they took half an hour to show it.) The announcers and the internet were quiet about it until they got word and showed it.

I could try unsuccessfully to speed bump any more of your rants, but forget it, you're rolling!

[BillJasper]

Matt Millen is terrible. That is all.

[johnnyshaka]

RG3 is pretty good. That is all.

[Grover]

Mathieu is some kind of awesome.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Then you were one of the 1% (one of which probably informed CBS about it, NONE of their camera guys or directors saw it, thus they took half an hour to show it.) The announcers and the internet were quiet about it until they got word and showed it.

I could try unsuccessfully to speed bump any more of your rants, but forget it, you're rolling!

I'm rolling? Because replay booths officials who have nothing else to do in the game other than look at plays like that can't get it right? Then I watch LSU smack Murray upside the face after a throw and a ref whose sole job it is to look for things like that doesn't see that either? I should have known this would be a damned joke and it is. (by the way, how is it that the ref right on the goal line misses the call? Why does it ever go to the replay booth. it was a half yard for God sakes)

Tyrann Mathieu is the single best player I've seen in college football this year and it really isn't close. LSU isn't in the title game. If he's not in the final five for the Heisman, something is wrong. Then again, something is clearly wrong with division one college football.

SEC has assured itself of getting exactly what it wants. (Nice to see they got the facemask right. Important to protect the running back and not a QB, right?) I know, I'm making an idiot of myself, the SEC officiating crew isn't.

[Tigercat]

If LSU had a QB that could be a consistent threat, this might be one of the best college teams of all time. The special teams + defense is amazing. (And every position but QB on offense is very good.) Even with survival tonight, QB play needs to improve. As it is, it will difficult winning the BCS championship game with the level of QB play LSU has had tonight.

[Tigercat]

Well, on the goal line official, Mathieu and everyone watching the play saw the ref hoist his arms before the flip. I think that is what caused the flip and why consciously and subconsciously pretty much no one thought to take a closer look. The ref was the one who really lost the place of the field and set everything into motion.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by TroyF

SEC has assured itself of getting exactly what it wants.

Isn't this the case fairly often in most conferences though? At some point in the season the possible BCS teams are identified, and then seem to get the calls in close games afterwards.


(Sak to come in to defend ref integrity in 3, 2, 1...)

edit: what is the reasoning behind the conferences maintaining their own crews, anyway? Why isn't this an NCAA thing?

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

If LSU had a QB that could be a consistent threat, this might be one of the best college teams of all time. The special teams + defense is amazing. (And every position but QB on offense is very good.) Even with survival tonight, QB play needs to improve. As it is, it will difficult winning the BCS championship game with the level of QB play LSU has had tonight.

I think they've been playing the wrong QB the last month. Lee is the better thrower and doesn't take sacks. (Jefferson has taken double the number of sacks in 1/3 of the pass attempts)

The only thing that can hurt LSU is negaive plays by the offense. Jefferson makes more of those than Lee does IMO

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Isn't this the case fairly often in most conferences though? At some point in the season the possible BCS teams are identified, and then seem to get the calls in close games afterwards.


(Sak to come in to defend ref integrity in 3, 2, 1...)

Look, when you start missing shots to the face on the QB, you start to go off the deep end. They missed multiple "tackles" on the first punt return. Then they missed a sure fire hit to the head on a QB? I mean, how can you logically miss that? Your job is to look for that sort of thing.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Well, on the goal line official, Mathieu and everyone watching the play saw the ref hoist his arms before the flip. I think that is what caused the flip and why consciously and subconsciously pretty much no one thought to take a closer look. The ref was the one who really lost the place of the field and set everything into motion.

That's an explanation I can live with. I still (and will never) understand why the replay officials didn't look at the call, but that at least makes sense. Still and incredibly idiotic play by a smart player.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

RG3 is pretty good. That is all.

He should get the heisman.. damn he is fun to watch. Maybe I'm way off base, but I think he's the best QB in the next draft. (assuming he's coming out)

[Julio Riddols]

I'll echo a previous statement.. If LSU had an offense to match their defense, they would be an amazing team and I would really enjoy watching them. As it is, I think we're destined to see another 6-3 type game in the national championship.. The only thing that might change that is the month plus layoff in between games, which is another thing I hate about the bowl system.

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

As it is, I think we're destined to see another 6-3 type game in the national championship..

Perhaps, but JJ and McCarron have the ability to drive the ball against even good defenses when they are on. LSU and Bama both have NFL players scattered throughout their offenses. If both QBs have a good game (which may be a big if) it could be a really good game on both sides of the ball. Still low scoring probably, 20-17 or so.

But, yea, I wouldn't bet on it unfortunately.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I think they've been playing the wrong QB the last month. Lee is the better thrower and doesn't take sacks. (Jefferson has taken double the number of sacks in 1/3 of the pass attempts)

The only thing that can hurt LSU is negaive plays by the offense. Jefferson makes more of those than Lee does IMO

He's also a much better match up against 'Bama than Lee is.

[sterlingice]

If it's just going to be against Alabama, can we just forego the National Championship game and give LSU the title?

If not, this will be a replay of that thread about soccer a couple of weeks ago where football fans were bitching about arbitrary things like aggregate goals in low scoring games deciding titles.

SI

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

If it's just going to be Alabama, can we just forego the National Championship game and give LSU the title?

If not, this will be a replay of that thread about soccer a couple of weeks ago where football fans were bitching about arbitrary things like aggregate goals in low scoring games deciding titles.

SI

It's not like 'Bama was beaten soundly. An OT game with four missed field goals makes me think 'Bama has a shot.

[Tigercat]

I'm surprised so many people are writing off Oklahoma State. They win by 14, or even better 20+ tonight, is it that sure of a thing that Bama maintains #2? I wonder.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Matthean

It's not like 'Bama was beaten soundly. An OT game with four missed field goals makes me think 'Bama has a shot.

But that's my point- they were already beaten so why do we get to suffer through it again? Even better will be if Alabama wins 10-7. That way, LSU won 6-3 and Alabama won 10-7, so both teams scored 13 in 2 games and the arbitrary determiner of who is better will be the one that won it a few weeks later on the calendar

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

is it that sure of a thing that Bama maintains #2? I wonder.

Book it.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

But that's my point- they were already beaten so why do we get to suffer through it again? Even better will be if Alabama wins 10-7. That way, LSU won 6-3 and Alabama won 10-7, so both teams scored 13 in 2 games and the arbitrary determiner of who is better will be the one that won it a few weeks later on the calendar

SI

Why did we need to have the Super Bowl with the Giants and the Pats? The Pats beat them in week 17 while on the road.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Unless Cincy somehow gets a ton of extra votes for beating UConn and can pass us up, WVU should be locked into a BCS spot now. Hoping for Orange against Virginia Tech, but Sugar vs Michigan would be fun (and probably make for entertaining television with probably 120 points scored), too.

It sounds like Houston's loss probably pushed us to the Orange.

[Scarecrow]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

If it's just going to be against Alabama, can we just forego the National Championship game and give LSU the title?

Did you not just hear the CBS announcers (glad they're not too bias); They said that even if Bama beats LSU in the Championship game (they announced that it was impossible for OSU to reach #2), LSU should be co-champions.

[BillJasper]

I don't know who #18 is for Georgia is, but he wants no part of the LSU running backs. Seen him continue to backpedal several times instead of trying to come up and make a tackle.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Why did we need to have the Super Bowl with the Giants and the Pats? The Pats beat them in week 17 while on the road.

Yes, because a system based on a larger regular season with a playoff and one where it's a beauty pageant to enter a winner-take-all game is equivalent

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I don't know who #18 is for Georgia is, but he wants no part of the LSU running backs. Seen him continue to backpedal several times instead of trying to come up and make a tackle.

Baccari Rambo, one of the more prolific trash talkers at UGAg.

[SFL Cat]

I'm a SEC guy, but I can't really say I'm jazzed about an Alabama-LSU national championship game.

[Tigercat]

I was hoping to take my dad to the BCSCG for his 65th birthday coming up. Neither of us have been to a LSU bowl game before... Unfortunately, the consensus is that tickets won't dip below 1.2k a piece anywhere, anyhow if Bama is involved, and that is a bit too rich for me. OSU might be/have been a different story. So, yea, not really jazzed about it either from a personal standpoint.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

where it's a beauty pageant

The subjectivity is definitely part of the beef. "Sports" like figure skating, gymnastics, diving, freestyle skiing...these are sometimes criticized because they involve a judging element, which introduces the opportunity for bias - the ol' Russian judge (or at least *I* criticize them, as I believe sports should be decided by measurables such as points, weights, times, distances). While games are decided on the field, there is still the judgement element of the polls.

[MJ4H]

bias
biased

choose wisely

[SFL Cat]

Playoffs...nuff said. Sometimes it's fun beating a dead horse...

[Tigercat]

Come on, Okie St, win 63-3!

[k0ruptr]

BYU 7-6 over Hawaii midddle 2nd quarter.. A Hawaii win puts them in the Hawaii Bowl. A loss hopefully means a new coach.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by MJ4H

bias
biased

choose wisely

I choosed poorly.

[mauchow]

Montee Ball with his second TD of the game already - over 100 yards rushing. In the 1st quarter. And 32 yards passing. LOL

[mauchow]

We've got a shootout in Indianapolis. Whoever makes fewer mistakes will win this one. With a lost fumble for MSU already - the Badgers hold that edge. 21-14 at the start of the 2nd quarter.

[lungs]

Come on Bucky!