NFL Week 1 Discussion - Page 5

Radii · 09-10-2006, 02:30 PM

i don't see carolina coming back in this one. no run defense, whenever vick is able to put a pass on target its caught, and delhomme is looking like favre out there with the decision making.

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

The NFL has fined players pretty liberally for penalties/late hits (even those that aren't penalties). Some of these fines have been ridiculous, i.e. CBs getting fined for punishing, but borderline legal hits on WRs. Here's there's an illegal hit, that injures a QB, and the NFL has a well-publized policy of protecting QBs. I don't think the big fine is in question.

I'm beginning to question whether it was really illegal.

I'm sorry, but the idea that a QB can slide the SECOND he sees someone about to nail him, is stupid. That's what I think happened here. It looks like the BENGALS (

) player leaves his veet at the basically same time as Green starts his slide.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:32 PM

1st and 10 from the Seahawks 20 for the Lions, 8:30 left, Lions down 6-3

Radii · 09-10-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Weeeeeee! Delohomme has definitely just been throwing it up for grabs today.

He does that 4 or 5 times every game, but usually its in the direction of Steve Smith so the results aren't nearly as bad.

st.cronin · 09-10-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

The hit on Green was shoulder-to-chest from the way I see it. If that's the case, it's not a penalty, and I don't really see why a suspension would come either. Geathers was already moving toward Green, and Green slid into him. I find it really hard to apply fault to Geathers here. It was ugly, and it was unfortunate, but I personally don't see how the NFL can punish Geathers with a straight face on this one.

Having seen the replay, my take is pretty much the same.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:33 PM

2nd and 21 on an intetional grounding

Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:33 PM

Charlie Frye is Cleveland's leading rusher today. Here in the Pittsburgh area, people love to laugh at the Browns. I bet folks are having a field day with this one. 16-14, Saints on top.

st.cronin · 09-10-2006, 02:34 PM

I wish the Pats could play against JP Losman every week.

SirFozzie · 09-10-2006, 02:35 PM

HUGE defensive stop by the Pats!

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:35 PM

6-6 Lions/Hawks

FBPro · 09-10-2006, 02:35 PM

WOW, I am SO impressed w/ Norwood. He is a big tough, fast runner. Bye TJ

MikeVic · 09-10-2006, 02:37 PM

I like those commercials with Triple H (Miller Lite I believe... man law).

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FBPro

WOW, I am SO impressed w/ Norwood. He is a big tough, fast runner. Bye TJ

TJ who?

Radii · 09-10-2006, 02:38 PM

oh god if Peppers had picked that off and run with it

*SIGH*

RendeR · 09-10-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

The hit on Green was shoulder-to-chest from the way I see it. If that's the case, it's not a penalty, and I don't really see why a suspension would come either. Geathers was already moving toward Green, and Green slid into him. I find it really hard to apply fault to Geathers here. It was ugly, and it was unfortunate, but I personally don't see how the NFL can punish Geathers with a straight face on this one.

Well stated. This is exactly what I saw when CBS finally showed the play here in Buffalo.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

TJ who?

As a follow-up to myself...

Norwood just broke more tackles, and made more players miss, than TJ did in his whole career in Atlanta.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:40 PM

Huge sack by Shaun Rogers, who is abusing Walter Jones and Floyd Womack

henry296 · 09-10-2006, 02:41 PM

Gradkowski in for Simms in Tampa

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:42 PM

False start by Seattle, whistle goes, no one hears it and Hasselbeck gets drilled. 3rd and 20.

Dutch · 09-10-2006, 02:42 PM

Bruce Gradkowski is in the game. Victory will now be ours...

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:42 PM

TAYOKA JACKSON! SACK!

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

Gradkowski in for Simms in Tampa

Chrissy didn't have a good day, did she?

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:43 PM

Anyone who says Hutchinson wasn't a loss for Seattle is AN IDIOT

sabotai · 09-10-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

The hit on Green was shoulder-to-chest from the way I see it. If that's the case, it's not a penalty, and I don't really see why a suspension would come either. Geathers was already moving toward Green, and Green slid into him. I find it really hard to apply fault to Geathers here. It was ugly, and it was unfortunate, but I personally don't see how the NFL can punish Geathers with a straight face on this one.

I'll jump on the bandwagon of just quoting this and saying it is how I saw the play as well.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

TAYOKA JACKSON! SACK!

The Lions signed Latoya Jackson? They're worse off than I thought.

Edit: Oh.

st.cronin · 09-10-2006, 02:44 PM

Gradkowski? Who he?

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 02:45 PM

Um.. who had Baltimore in the "highest scoring team in the first set of games" pool?

SI

henry296 · 09-10-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Gradkowski? Who he?

Rookie from Toledo.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-10-2006, 02:47 PM

Buckhalter looking very good as the Eagles are just killing the clock with a great running drive to seal the win.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:47 PM

Lions punt. 3:13 left, Seattle has it on their 20. 6-6 game.

SirFozzie · 09-10-2006, 02:47 PM

Sheesh, what a great escape. I expect a LOT of second guessing on that 4th and 1 the Bills missed that turned things around

FBPro · 09-10-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

As a follow-up to myself...

Norwood just broke more tackles, and made more players miss, than TJ did in his whole career in Atlanta.

Agreed

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:51 PM

Lee Corso is in the Chicken suit? That is too good.

Dutch · 09-10-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

Rookie from Toledo.

He had an exciting pre-season, fwiw.

kcchief19 · 09-10-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I'm beginning to question whether it was really illegal.

I'm sorry, but the idea that a QB can slide the SECOND he sees someone about to nail him, is stupid. That's what I think happened here. It looks like the BENGALS (

) player leaves his veet at the basically same time as Green starts his slide.

That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it's not the rule. The rule is that once the quarterback gives himself up with a feet first slide you can't hit him and have to make an effort to avoide contact. Geathers left his feet after Green stated his slide, led with his shoulder, and intentionally came down on top of Green.

I don't think it's suspension worthy, but definitely fine worthy. If Geathers had made any attempt whatsoever to pull up or avoid contact, I'd feel differently. But the rule is there for a reason. If you don't like the rule, fine. But rules don't work that way.

jbmagic · 09-10-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Is Peyton Manning in every other commercial?

He is #1 in endorsement deals.

#2 is Reggie Bush

molson · 09-10-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Um.. who had Baltimore in the "highest scoring team in the first set of games" pool?

SI

I'm pretty sure someone had Tampa Bay as their "high".

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:54 PM

seattle in FG range with 16 seconds left.

MikeVic · 09-10-2006, 02:54 PM

Interesting Jets/Titans game (in the scoring sense)... two 2-pt conversions, and the Titans have tied it.

edit: Titans have tied it.

Dutch · 09-10-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I'm pretty sure someone had Tampa Bay as their "high".

It's the last time I make that mistake.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:55 PM

3 seconds left, Seattle going for the GW FG

Logan · 09-10-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Interesting Jets/Titans game (in the scoring sense)... two 2-pt conversions, and the Jets have tied it.

Just an FYI...the Jets were up 16-0, and Tennessee has come back to tie it.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:56 PM

Seattle wins 9-6

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Seattle wins 9-6

The Mariners or the Seahawks?

molson · 09-10-2006, 03:02 PM

I just remembered that there's no "NFL Primetime" tonight. That kind of makes me sad. I'm sure that NBC show will be 90 more minutes of craptacular Manning hype. So I guess we're reduced to 60 second Sportcenter highlight packages.

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it's not the rule. The rule is that once the quarterback gives himself up with a feet first slide you can't hit him and have to make an effort to avoide contact. Geathers left his feet after Green stated his slide, led with his shoulder, and intentionally came down on top of Green.

I don't think it's suspension worthy, but definitely fine worthy. If Geathers had made any attempt whatsoever to pull up or avoid contact, I'd feel differently. But the rule is there for a reason. If you don't like the rule, fine. But rules don't work that way.

I totally see your point. I can see the argument for a penalty. I can see the argument for a fine.

I find this talk that he gets a huge fine and possibly a suspencion to be silly though.

SnowMan · 09-10-2006, 03:03 PM

Seahawks looked awful. Detroit let them win, because they sure didn't earn it. I sure hope they have a good sit-down this week and figure out why they can't throw the ball down the field...or run...or not get FGs blocked.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowMan

Seahawks looked awful. Detroit let them win, because they sure didn't earn it. I sure hope they have a good sit-down this week and figure out why they can't throw the ball down the field...or run...or not get FGs blocked.

Seattle is lost without Hutch, the left side was abused. Lions D is going to be good, we just need to get some offense.

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I just remembered that there's no "NFL Primetime" tonight. That kind of makes me sad. I'm sure that NBC show will be 90 more minutes of craptacular Manning hype. So I guess we're reduced to 60 second Sportcenter highlight packages.

That really has me bummed, too, as I've watched NFL Primetime for at least 10 years and it was something I set my Sunday nights around

SI

Celeval · 09-10-2006, 03:06 PM

Hm... fantasy question. Moulds is available, but my WRs are:

Roy Williams, Plaxico, Reggie Wayne, Troy Williamson, Donte Stallworth. Williamson is the guy I'd consider dropping, but I'm unsure - thoughts?

09-10-2006, 02:33 PM	#207
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Charlie Frye is Cleveland's leading rusher today. Here in the Pittsburgh area, people love to laugh at the Browns. I bet folks are having a field day with this one. 16-14, Saints on top. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-10-2006, 02:34 PM	#208
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I wish the Pats could play against JP Losman every week. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-10-2006, 02:35 PM	#209
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	HUGE defensive stop by the Pats! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-10-2006, 02:35 PM	#211
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	WOW, I am SO impressed w/ Norwood. He is a big tough, fast runner. Bye TJ __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

09-10-2006, 02:41 PM	#218
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Gradkowski in for Simms in Tampa __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

09-10-2006, 02:30 PM	#201
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	i don't see carolina coming back in this one. no run defense, whenever vick is able to put a pass on target its caught, and delhomme is looking like favre out there with the decision making.

09-10-2006, 02:32 PM	#203
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	1st and 10 from the Seahawks 20 for the Lions, 8:30 left, Lions down 6-3

09-10-2006, 02:33 PM	#206
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	2nd and 21 on an intetional grounding

09-10-2006, 02:35 PM	#210
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	6-6 Lions/Hawks

09-10-2006, 02:37 PM	#212
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I like those commercials with Triple H (Miller Lite I believe... man law).

09-10-2006, 02:38 PM	#214
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	oh god if Peppers had picked that off and run with it SIGH

09-10-2006, 02:40 PM	#217
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Huge sack by Shaun Rogers, who is abusing Walter Jones and Floyd Womack

09-10-2006, 02:42 PM	#219
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	False start by Seattle, whistle goes, no one hears it and Hasselbeck gets drilled. 3rd and 20.

09-10-2006, 02:42 PM	#220
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Bruce Gradkowski is in the game. Victory will now be ours...

09-10-2006, 02:42 PM	#221
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	TAYOKA JACKSON! SACK!

09-10-2006, 02:43 PM	#223
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Anyone who says Hutchinson wasn't a loss for Seattle is AN IDIOT

09-10-2006, 02:44 PM	#226
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Gradkowski? Who he? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-10-2006, 02:45 PM	#227
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Um.. who had Baltimore in the "highest scoring team in the first set of games" pool? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-10-2006, 02:47 PM	#229
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Buckhalter looking very good as the Eagles are just killing the clock with a great running drive to seal the win. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-10-2006, 02:47 PM	#230
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Lions punt. 3:13 left, Seattle has it on their 20. 6-6 game.

09-10-2006, 02:47 PM	#231
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Sheesh, what a great escape. I expect a LOT of second guessing on that 4th and 1 the Bills missed that turned things around __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-10-2006, 02:51 PM	#233
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Lee Corso is in the Chicken suit? That is too good.

09-10-2006, 02:54 PM	#238
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	seattle in FG range with 16 seconds left.

09-10-2006, 02:54 PM	#239
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Interesting Jets/Titans game (in the scoring sense)... two 2-pt conversions, and the Titans have tied it. edit: Titans have tied it. Last edited by MikeVic : 09-10-2006 at 02:56 PM.

09-10-2006, 02:55 PM	#241
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	3 seconds left, Seattle going for the GW FG

09-10-2006, 02:56 PM	#243
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Seattle wins 9-6

09-10-2006, 03:02 PM	#245
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I just remembered that there's no "NFL Primetime" tonight. That kind of makes me sad. I'm sure that NBC show will be 90 more minutes of craptacular Manning hype. So I guess we're reduced to 60 second Sportcenter highlight packages. Last edited by molson : 09-10-2006 at 03:03 PM.

09-10-2006, 03:03 PM	#247
SnowMan High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Georgia via Alaska via Washington	Seahawks looked awful. Detroit let them win, because they sure didn't earn it. I sure hope they have a good sit-down this week and figure out why they can't throw the ball down the field...or run...or not get FGs blocked.

09-10-2006, 03:06 PM	#250
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Hm... fantasy question. Moulds is available, but my WRs are: Roy Williams, Plaxico, Reggie Wayne, Troy Williamson, Donte Stallworth. Williamson is the guy I'd consider dropping, but I'm unsure - thoughts?

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