College Football Week 10 discussion

[Mantle2600]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Had Purdue ever beaten OSU and UM in the same season?

i think the announcers said they did in 2000 i believe

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by Mantle2600

i think the announcers said they did in 2000 i believe

Was that Drew Brees at QB then?

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

He shouldn't even be playing in this game anymore after that helmet-to-helmet.

Bullshit. Watch that play at normal speed - there's no way you can assume Butler was intentionally trying to spear Prince. He saw the QB running towards him and not sliding, and he got low to deliver a shot. A fraction of a second either way in what Prince does and that's a shoulder hitting his helmet and not Butler's helmet.

It was a deserved penalty, but there's no way you can assume given the speed of the play and how quickly everything happened that it was a dirty play, with Butler intending to spear Prince.

Horribly frustrating game - I haven't been this angry in a long time. Once again, a game the Huskies should've won but for a bad call by the officials - that "TD" by Austin hit the ground first, and I'm stunned that a review wasn't called for. A big mistake by Sark not demanding a replay.

And just like the Notre Dame game, that call shouldn't have mattered in the long run. To get 5 takeaways in the game and be +3 in turnovers, you should win the game. Sark had the run game working beautifully with Polk in the first half, but only ran him 7 times despite over 100 yards of rushing.

Not sure what happened with Folk on that FG attempt in the 4th quarter, but it was an ugly kick. Make that kick and we're likely talking about how the Huskies barely held on in a game they should've won by a decent margin.

They've put themselves in a really tough spot to get to a bowl game. Beating WSU should be a cakewalk, and the December home game against a Cal team that probably won't have a lot of motivation could be a win, but going into Corvallis and beating the Beavers is a real longshot.

This is another horrible missed opportunity, just like the Notre Dame and Arizona State games. While I like what Sark has done this year, there are some definite concerns as well.

[dawgfan]

Dola - my day is brightened slightly by seeing Notre Dame and Oregon lose...

[Buccaneer]

Very excited to see Notre Dame lose and gets kicked out of a BCS bowl. The hatred of Notre Dame stems from special rules, conditions and broadcasts that only apply to them.

[Eaglesfan27]

Didn't see it, but it sounds like Jahvid Best just had a nasty fall on his head on a leaping play and is knocked out cold. Hope he is ok.

[Swaggs]

The more football that I watch college football, the more I realize how much parity there is between the teams aside from the top 4 or 5 teams and the bottom 25 or 30 teams.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Very excited to see Notre Dame lose and gets kicked out of a BCS bowl. The hatred of Notre Dame stems from special rules, conditions and broadcasts that only apply to them.

I have no problem wit hthe broadcast rules, money talks, but I totally agree on the other points. The BCS rules are basically written so a 9-2 Notre Dame team can go to a BCS game.

when the BCS wrote the rules they looked at Notre Dames schedule and said, OK, we will let them lose to Michigan and USC, beat the other 10 cupcakes and we can still get the monster ratings from their BCS game appearance.

[Noop]

God I hope Best is alright that looked bad.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Noop

God I hope Best is alright that looked bad.

Yeah, that looked brutal.

[digamma]

What a weird GT-Wake game. We almost double them up in yards, but several times either miss a block or have a key penalty to stall a drive. Also, a TD was called back.

And I agree with JiMG and radii...how many coaches go for it on 4th and 1 in overtime there and did you ever have a doubt CPJ wouldn't do it?

[digamma]

One other thing to keep in mind on GT...this was their 10th straight game without an off week. You're bound to have an off week or two and you just hope it is when you are better than the other team.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Yeah, that looked brutal.

That was an horrendously frightening fall. My wife and I watching saying forget the poor kid being paralyzed which from the way his body reacted right after seemed to be a real possibility biut that could be life threatening. I am not a fan of the Golden Bears but my prays go out to that kid.

[Recoil]

Originally Posted by digamma

One other thing to keep in mind on GT...this was their 10th straight game without an off week. You're bound to have an off week or two and you just hope it is when you are better than the other team.

Also, Jim Grobe is a hell of a coach. WF's record doesn't do their team justice.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I have no problem with the broadcast rules, money talks, but I totally agree on the other points. The BCS rules are basically written so a 9-2 Notre Dame team can go to a BCS game.

when the BCS wrote the rules they looked at Notre Dames schedule and said, OK, we will let them lose to Michigan and USC, beat the other 10 cupcakes and we can still get the monster ratings from their BCS game appearance.

I am not saying the ND schedule in the past few years has not been filled with some cupcakes but this year there are far from "10 cupcakes". Anyways, I earlier today saw that Texas was playing Central Florida WTF.??? So, I took a look at the Longhorn schedule what a joke. I think a great many big schools load there schedule with cupcakes quite a bit. ND most certainly is not the only school doing it.
Is this schedule that much better than NDs:
Texas schedule:
Louisiana-Monroe W 59-20 --
at Wyoming W 41-10 --
Texas Tech W 34-24 --
UTEP W 64-7 --
Colorado W 38-14 --
(20) Oklahoma W 16-13 --
at Missouri W 41-7 --
at (13) Oklahoma State W 41-14 --
UCF W 35-3 --
at Baylor 12:00 pm --
Kansas TBA --
at Texas A&M 8:00 pm --

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Recoil

Also, Jim Grobe is a hell of a coach. WF's record doesn't do their team justice.

Absolutely. It's the first time this season I thought Paul Johnson met his match situationally.

[JonInMiddleGA]

ESPN-U announcers for the UT-Memphis game just mentioned that Jahvid Best preliminary diagnosis is a concussion but that does have movement in all extremities.

Scary looking thing for sure though, glad he sounds to be alright or at least nothing severe.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Incidentally, with his 4 TD passes against Memphis tonight, Jonathan Crompton now leads the SEC with 20 TD passes.

{shakes head}
{rubs eyes}
{worries about impending Armageddon}

[Eaglesfan27]

USC is up 7-3 at ASU at halftime. A very disappointing half of football. The linebackers continue to get pushed around and carried for extra yardage by the running backs. The defense is being helped by Danny Sullivan making bad plays, but they still aren't making enough plays. The offense is being almost completely shut down by ASU's defense and Barkley has had his worst half of football.

[Eaglesfan27]

Damian Williams with an absolutely spectacular play for a 75 yard TD. 14-3.

[thealmighty]

And now for something completely different...

Yea Horned Frogs.


(sorry, no man with three buttocks here)

[Celeval]

That Jahvid Best replay was the ugliest thing I've seen in a while - wow. Glad to hear he's moving.

[k0ruptr]

Woah, whats going Hawaii has scored 21 points, and lead 21-7 in the 2nd quarter. haven't seen this Offense since June left.

[clemsonfan]

Spiller is the toughest player I've seen in a while. I just wish we had a decent kicker.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Woah, whats going Hawaii has scored 21 points, and lead 21-7 in the 2nd quarter. haven't seen this Offense since we played Washington state earlier this year.

fixed

[Eaglesfan27]

ASU just pulled off a very nice interception in which a defender got his foot on the ball before it hit the ground to kick it up into the air to his teammate.

[mauchow]

Holy crap. The ASU USC game just had the craziest sequence of a events, EVER!

After the pass was thrown, the ball was tipped about five times before being KICKED in the air by a ASU defender and landing into the hands of another player who then returned it some yards who then fumbled it but it STILL landed in the hands of another Devils player. POW no doubt.

[k0ruptr]

Uconn just pulled within 2 of Cinci, and if they make the 2 point conv. it will be tied at 40. in a fight to stay undefeated.

and Lathum, nah this is the offense from the June days when we would score 50-60 a game. and 30 a half, not the Wash St. game earlier this year.

[k0ruptr]

2 point attempt failed. Cinci 40-38 with 5 minutes left.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii 28 -7 with 5:25 left in the 2nd quarter, and with the ball again.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii with a 70 yard run to the Utah St. 25!

[k0ruptr]

but in another sense, I haven't seen this offense since 1997 when we were a running team. Hawaii has ran for 150 yards in the first half so far.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

and Lathum, nah this is the offense from the June days when we would score 50-60 a game. and 30 a half, not the Wash St. game earlier this year.

I get that, but any chance I get to take a shot ate Wazzu I'm gonna take it

[k0ruptr]

dola, 200 yards rushing now in the first half for Hawaii.

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I get that, but any chance I get to take a shot ate Wazzu I'm gonna take it

haha, good call!

[k0ruptr]

Touchdown! 35-7 UH with 2 minutes left in the first half!

[k0ruptr]

damn Cinci somehow scored on 4th and 1. they will remain unbeaten, but it wasn't pretty.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Houston kicks a FG as time expires to beat Tulsa 46-45. That's after they missed a 2-point conversion that would have tied it up.

[Atocep]

Cincy and UConn combined for nearly 1200 yards of offense tonight.

[k0ruptr]

Cinci won by 2... good game.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC with a very ugly win, 14-9.

[Recoil]

Can't wait for a rematch against Clemson in the ACCCG. Not.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC with a very ugly win, 14-9.

I'll take any win in Tempe against a Dennis Erickson coached team. That being said, it's unreal how bad this offensive line is for a unit that was supposed to be the best in the country going into the season. I think at this point I'm in favor of benching both tackles and seeing what Kalil and Graf can do, wouldn't mind seeing Khaled Holmes get a shot at guard either. When it's a key play the line gets beat off the ball, every single time, and the holding penalties are even worse.

[Noop]

Got to love Clemson fans rushing the field after beating a 4-5 team.

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC with a very ugly win, 14-9.

Better than a very ugly loss. Believe me, I know.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Bullshit. Watch that play at normal speed - there's no way you can assume Butler was intentionally trying to spear Prince. He saw the QB running towards him and not sliding, and he got low to deliver a shot. A fraction of a second either way in what Prince does and that's a shoulder hitting his helmet and not Butler's helmet.

It was a deserved penalty, but there's no way you can assume given the speed of the play and how quickly everything happened that it was a dirty play, with Butler intending to spear Prince.

Horribly frustrating game - I haven't been this angry in a long time. Once again, a game the Huskies should've won but for a bad call by the officials - that "TD" by Austin hit the ground first, and I'm stunned that a review wasn't called for. A big mistake by Sark not demanding a replay.

And just like the Notre Dame game, that call shouldn't have mattered in the long run. To get 5 takeaways in the game and be +3 in turnovers, you should win the game. Sark had the run game working beautifully with Polk in the first half, but only ran him 7 times despite over 100 yards of rushing.

Not sure what happened with Folk on that FG attempt in the 4th quarter, but it was an ugly kick. Make that kick and we're likely talking about how the Huskies barely held on in a game they should've won by a decent margin.

They've put themselves in a really tough spot to get to a bowl game. Beating WSU should be a cakewalk, and the December home game against a Cal team that probably won't have a lot of motivation could be a win, but going into Corvallis and beating the Beavers is a real longshot.

This is another horrible missed opportunity, just like the Notre Dame and Arizona State games. While I like what Sark has done this year, there are some definite concerns as well.

UCLA should have blown UW out in that game. We had 5 TO's and most of them were ticky tacky, not holding on to the ball. The hit on Prince was dirty, but it wasn't malicious. Prince needs to learn to slide, but if Butler does that in the NFL, he's probably tossed from the game.

And that call was the right call on the TD. The ref was right there to make the play. Even if they review it, there was little chance they overturn it. And in the small chance that they did review it and overturned it, UCLA was sitting on 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. It didn't cost you the game like you intended. Hell, Prince going out probably saved you from being blown out in that game. We had first and 10 from about the 22 yard line when he got hurt. First two plays with Brehaut were running plays and the third one, Paulsen his block, Brehaut held the ball too long and was creamed, losing the ball and at least 3 sure point.

Locker and Polk are good ones. You also have some nice receivers as well.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

USC with a very ugly win, 14-9.

USC could very well lose to Arizona still. Arizona does have the meaty part of their schedule left though, well that and ASU

[MrBug708]

Washington beating Arizona and USC was the worst thing for the program. Everywhere I look, UW fans point to the job Tedford did in one year at Cal. Not a realistic goal IMO.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

USC could very well lose to Arizona still. Arizona does have the meaty part of their schedule left though, well that and ASU

No doubt. USC is so banged up right now, that I think they can lose to anyone left on their schedule.

[MrBug708]

Well, if Craft beats you, I think it's time for Carroll to hang up his coaches whistle