So why exactly was MJ4H boxed?

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by wade moore

:shurg:

Find me 2 other boxings in the last 364 days.

Good luck.

I'm pretty sure I can do that just by searching for Anthony and Hell Atlantic

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

shitstorm warning in effect for fofc county

I LOL'd

[molson]

Originally Posted by wade moore

:shurg:

Find me 2 other boxings in the last 364 days.

Good luck.

There were two in the last 24 hours.

Hell Atlanic several times before that.

And me once.

That's 4. (I'm guess the real number is several times that, but this is secret information).

What do I win?

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by cartman

Gawddangit Wade, this isn't a draft thread. This is the kind of behavior you show regularly in those.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by molson

What do I win?

Spoiler

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

{shrugs} I'm not seeing a big problem here.

WTF hot chick pics had to do with a poker dynasty escapes me (well, not entirely, trying to drum up hits I guess, but generally speaking the two aren't directly related).

And reposting them under the circumstances he describes himself seems like no less than a 50-50 bet to get boxed, not completely predictable but not exactly shocking either.

How does saying they are on his twitter even qualify as "reposting"?

[molson]

Originally Posted by stevew

Nothing personal against him, cause I like him.

But if you post "words of someone beyond the grave" you're going to get boxed 100000% percent of the time.

Fair enough. I didn't know that.

What would be awesome if there was a sticked post that contained that info.

1. "Banned for quoting a boxed poster".

Now, how quoting a boxed member in any way negatively impacts the boards is beyond me, but it's been apparent for years that that's not the goal of the mods. It's a pissing match, and they have the only weapon to end it, so they do.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

{snip}

Unless this post was over and above HA-style content then this "snipping" is utter and complete bullshit.


people are getting a bit power mad around here.


As for the original issue, Wade you were a total douchebag about this. Nothing in that thread was anywhere NEAR as bad as other threads that have been around for eternity. You keep reiterating 16-20 year olds when you actually have no fucking clue how old any of them are. You admit knowing nothing substantial about how filters work and still you try to base your arguments around such things.

You fucked up. Please stop being an assfuck and at least admit as much.


holy christ on a fucking crutch.

Bannings and boxings aside. The orignal action of slamming MJ4H and deleting that thread was a completely ignorant, PERSONAL and malicious act.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by molson

There were two in the last 24 hours.

Hell Atlanic several times before that.

And me once.

That's 4. (I'm guess the real number is several times that, but this is secret information).

What do I win?

HA has not been boxed "several times" in the last year.

And by "secret" you mean a list is not posted on the board. I'm pretty confident that no boxing at FOFC has ever gone unnoticed.

fwiw - we don't keep a "list" internally either. Boxings are so rare there really isn't a need to "keep track".

Edit: To remove douchiness on my part. Someone probably already quoted it though.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

shitstorm warning in effect for fofc county

Nice

Does that mean there's a little brown box over the area on the map?

SI

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Bannings and boxings aside. The orignal action of slamming MJ4H and deleting that thread was a completely ignorant, PERSONAL and malicious act.

If you think that was personal, then you take message boards way too seriously.

I had no personal issue with MJ4H and to my knowledge ben did not either.

[molson]

Originally Posted by wade moore

If you think that was personal, then you take message boards way too seriously.

I would take it personally if someone deleted my dynasty when they had the option, as you stated earlier, to request that it be undeleted.

It's not the end of the world or anything, but I put a lot of time into it, and MJFH's was pushing 5-6 pages.

[molson]

Originally Posted by wade moore

If you think that was personal, then you take message boards way too seriously.

I had no personal issue with MJ4H and to my knowledge ben did not either.

You've said that the actual boxing was based on communications betwen MJFH and the mods. That's personal, because it's not something that has anything to do with the mod or anyone else. When MJFH gets boxed for criticizing the mods in another thread, that's personal. Mods clearly make decisions with emotions, it's when they're crossed that shit goes down. The good of the board is window-dressing, a secondary concern.

I don't think anything you did was personal.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by wade moore

And by "secret" you mean a list is not posted on the board. I'm pretty confident that no boxing at FOFC has ever gone unnoticed.

Not since everyone realized what a ghost-banning was, anyway.

/digamma throws in a vote for more ghost bannings.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by wade moore

If you think that was personal, then you take message boards way too seriously.

I had no personal issue with MJ4H and to my knowledge ben did not either.

Nopt personal with matt, personal with what you saw, you didn't like the pics in teh thread for whatever reason you THOUGHT was valid, and you jumped the shark trying to do something about it.

Problem is you never stopped to say "well, how does this compare to anything else out there?

Hrm, it's pretty much the norm and tis not breaking any REAL rules now is it?

Douchebag.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by stevew

YAY-

And a BRAND new Car!

Kuni: Ahhh, a red snapper. Mmmmm, very tasty. Okay, Weaver, listen carefully. You can hold on to your red snapper...
{Hiro-San emerges, carrying a table with a box}
Kuni: ...or you can go for what's in the box that Hiro-San is bringing down the aisle right now! What's it gonna be?
{Phyllis Weaver has difficulty in choosing as the audience point to the box}
Phyllis Weaver: I'll take the box. The box!
{applause}
Kuni: You took the box? Let's see what's in the box!
{Hiro-san opens the box; the audience gasps. There is a silence}
Kuni: Nothing! Absolutely nothing! STUPID! You're so STU-PIIIIIIIIIIID!

SI

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by molson

I would take it personally if someone deleted my dynasty when they had the option, as you stated earlier, to request that it be undeleted.

It's not the end of the world or anything, but I put a lot of time into it, and MJFH's was pushing 5-6 pages.

Well, without being involved, I suspect KSyrup is correct in his assessment.

I can say, for a fact (and hopefully Ben doesn't mind me mentioning this private discussion), that Ben began by trying to delete out all of the images. However, it became I time issue so he deleted the thread with the intentions of possibly going back to delete the images at a later time.

So, I suspect that KSyrup's analysis is correct - MJ4H likely was impatient. We mods have lives, particularly on the weekends.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm going to post a thread with nothing but pictures of a barely-dressed Kathy Griffin. I took the pictures myself while I was hiding in her bushes.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Nopt personal with matt, personal with what you saw, you didn't like the pics in teh thread for whatever reason you THOUGHT was valid, and you jumped the shark trying to do something about it.

Problem is you never stopped to say "well, how does this compare to anything else out there?

Hrm, it's pretty much the norm and tis not breaking any REAL rules now is it?

Douchebag.

That's your analysis of the situation, I disagree.

I believe that that thread was clearly out of character from any other thread on FOFC.

Just because you believe it, doesn't make it fact. This is clearly a subjective situation.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'm going to post a thread with nothing but pictures of a barely-dressed Kathy Griffin. I took the pictures myself while I was hiding in her bushes.

I will take that personally.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by wade moore

If you think that was personal, then you take message boards way too seriously.

I had no personal issue with MJ4H and to my knowledge ben did not either.

And you still haven't even tried to refute the ignorance in your actual arguments. nothing you've stated that you based your decision on is actually viable. Its comes down to YOUR opinion and thats fucked up.


if you honestly believe you did right then EVERY SINGLE THREAD with a good looking woman's pic in it MUST be deleted also.

Lets bring the fucking police state to FULL auto here boys.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'm going to post a thread with nothing but pictures of a barely-dressed Kathy Griffin. I took the pictures myself while I was hiding in her bushes.

Please no, I'll report it.

[wade moore]

And at this point I'm going to take the advice of people smarter than me.

This is my last post in this thread.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by wade moore

That's your analysis of the situation, I disagree.

I believe that that thread was clearly out of character from any other thread on FOFC.

Just because you believe it, doesn't make it fact. This is clearly a subjective situation.

First fucking thing you've posted that might actually be true. Check that mirror Wade, POt, fucking KETTLE...

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by wade moore

And at this point I'm going to take the advice of people smarter than me.

This is my last post in this thread.

Somone finally told him "Dude, yer getting yer ass kicked here, get out while you have an ass left"

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

How does saying they are on his twitter even qualify as "reposting"?

The intent seems similar enough to fit the description afaic.

While I'm posting anyway, I think it's kind of funny how all of this could have been avoided if he had just stuck to poker.

[cartman]

Nice edit in post #224. Quite Freudian.

[MikeVic]

I still don't agree with the original mod decision, and I think the intent of MJ4H with his threads was to follow the rules, so I think this is complete bullshit but we'll never get it corrected.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by cartman

Nice edit in post #224. Quite Freudian.

I wanted to quote it, but RendeR already changed it.

[molson]

RE: "This being a good board"

I agree, but credit for that shouldn't go to the mods. It's irritating when that's used as justification for mod asshats.

This board isn't good because of the mods. This board is good because of Jim G. (and text sims in general), and the type of person that those things attract.

I'm not moved by this idea that the mods here are super-brilliant because this place isn't like the Howard Stern Message Board or something. It's a different audience. The people here are the kinds of people that can enjoy TEXT SIMS. It's not a unruly, rowdy crowd.

[ISiddiqui]

Like the Iranian Revolution come to the #FOFC hashtag on Twitter to go around official channels .

[molson]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Somone finally told him "Dude, yer getting yer ass kicked here, get out while you have an ass left"

Nah, it was more like, "get out of there, those plebeians don't understand our super-serious and important message board management"

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by cartman

Nice edit in post #224. Quite Freudian.

SHHHHHHH

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by molson

Nah, it was more like, "get out of there, those plebeians don't understand our super-serious and important message board management"

Which is traanslated from "dumbass" to what I posted

[Mustang]

The link. You posted it, We came.
It's just a link!
Oh, No. It is a means to summon us.
Who are you?
Mods in the further regions of experience. Asshats to some. Guardians to others.
It was a mistake, I didn't mean to post it! You can all go to Sportsdiggs!
We can't, not alone. You posted the link. We came. Now you must come with us. Taste our modding.
Please... go away and leave the thread alone!
Oh, no posting please. It's a waste of good words.
Wait! Wait, please, wait.
No time for argument.
You've banned before, right?
Many, may times.
To a man called jbmagic?
Oh, yes.
He escaped you.
Nobody escapes us
He did. I've seen him. I've seen him.
lmpossible!
He's alive!
Supposing he had escaped us. What has that to do with you?
I can... I can lead you to him.
And you can ban him again instead of me.
Perhaps we prefer you. I want to hear him confess himself, then maybe... but if you cheat us. We'll ban your soul apart!

[Subby]

Ben doesn't own the board. He sold it to OS - so if you have a problem with how it is modded, you can always escalate to that level.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by molson

It's a different audience. The people here are the kinds of people that can enjoy TEXT SIMS. It's not a unruly, rowdy crowd.

I'd agree with this. The board is pretty good at policing itself and has a way of ostracizing people that are asshats. When most people seem to be scratching their head over this particular ban, I can only come to the conclusion that it was just a personal item and just a display of 'I have a bigger penis than you...'

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Subby

Ben doesn't own the board. He sold it to OS - so if you have a problem with how it is modded, you can always escalate to that level.

As is the case with Ben, taking to ANY level on this board is worthless ebcause there is no intent to actually moderate the board fairly and evenly. Ben and the mods cover their own asses quite solidly. Ben's position has pretty much always been "never back down, never surrender" even when faced with blatant evidence of asshattery on someone's part.

[TCY Junkie]

I got boxed when I saw this mom treat her kid like a midget trying to hump her leg. You can't hit them off of you in public, you might break them. I lost interest in learning about people of this bored after I figured they either don't care about kids one bit or they can't discuss serious things in alternative ways. Maybe it was just a mod that didn't understand my online ways like many others.

I never got a warning and I deserved one because I'm pretty sure no one played TCY more than I did and that has to count for something, somewhere.

[RendeR]

I do agree that the community on the whole tends to police itself fairly well. If you look back over the years these little episodes only tend to flair up when one of the moderators gets a bug up his ass and wants to imprint his personal moral code on everyone else.


That or Anthoney gets a hemmeroid.

[RedKingGold]

Anyone else looking foward to the day RendeR learns how to use the shift or caps lock key?

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by RendeR

As is the case with Ben, taking to ANY level on this board is worthless ebcause there is no intent to actually moderate the board fairly and evenly. Ben and the mods cover their own asses quite solidly. Ben's position has pretty much always been "never back down, never surrender" even when faced with blatant evidence of asshattery on someone's part.

This is another push toward communism, not only in the USA but at FOFC.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by RendeR

As is the case with Ben, taking to ANY level on this board is worthless ebcause there is no intent to actually moderate the board fairly and evenly. Ben and the mods cover their own asses quite solidly. Ben's position has pretty much always been "never back down, never surrender" even when faced with blatant evidence of asshattery on someone's part.

Well if that's the case then maybe someone should go to OS. Otherwise I think this is all just so much posturing and pissing in the wind.

[RedKingGold]

Also, Wade, while I'm sure you mean well, there is just no point to arguing with these idiots. They'll always think they're right and they're awesome because they just are that awesome and right.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Anyone else looking foward to the day RendeR learns how to use the shift or caps lock key?

WTF is this about?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Subby

Well if that's the case then maybe someone should go to OS. Otherwise I think this is all just so much posturing and pissing in the wind.

The whole point Subby is that OS doesn't give a shit about internal polotics of any given board on their server. So going above the level of "we're never wrong" to "we never care" is pretty well pointless.

And frankly you're right, its always just pissing into the wind, but if we don't at least react to idiocy then idiocy becomes the accepted norm instead of the enforced norm.

[cartman]

I see RendeR and Wade as two sides of the same coin. They both post to make their point, and both keep on posting the same thing over and over and cause people to no longer support their point.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by cartman

I RendeR and Wade as two sides of the same coin. They both post to make their point, and both keep on posting the same thing over and over and cause people to no longer support their point.

This would be true IF wade had anything to make his point with.

and Fuck you too cartman =)

[gstelmack]

I think I've seen this thread before. Usually in one of the cop threads. And the same people who think it's okay to talk back to a cop are the same ones up in arms over MJ4H being boxed. There's a life lesson here: talk back to the folks in authority at your own peril. There are better ways of handling a problem.

[Subby]

Wade means well - I just think there is a breakdown when he tries to explain himself. He gets flustered when people start attacking him.

Ben, on the other hand, doesn't really care whether you live or die.