College Football Week 5 Thread

[cthomer5000]

4th and 10 for Rutgers coming up.

[Young Drachma]

Well that was a quick rush to fourth down. Geez...ugh.

[CU Tiger]

ball gme

[cthomer5000]

Between 2nd and 3rd down, Teel missed his window to move the ball.

[CU Tiger]

mryland nails the coffin

[Young Drachma]

I had a bad feeling about this game coming in today.

[RendeR]

Seriously sorry to see either team lose the MSU/Wisconsin game, if either team had a quality defense I'd pick them as title contenders.

[CU Tiger]

Am I really listeening to this idiot try to convince us that was a gimme touchdown?

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I had a bad feeling about this game coming in today.

I think the WVU loss was probably very bad for the mindset of the Rutgers players.

[larrymcg421]

If Rutgers didn't have timeouts left, then the smart play was to let Maryland have a TD. No chance they win if the clock moves. Very small chance with a TD and onside kick, but it's better than watching Maryland kneel it away.

[cthomer5000]

About 75% of me believes they gave up the TD intentionally.

[cthomer5000]

I would find it to be completely fair if Rutgers drops out of the Top 25 entirely. They haven't beaten anyone.

[JonInMiddleGA]

FSU driving with a chance to maybe start putting Alabama away but threw an INT inside the 10. Still 7-0 'Noles starting to get a little late in the 3rd qtr.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I would find it to be completely fair if Rutgers drops out of the Top 25 entirely. They haven't beaten anyone.

I was mulling this same thought as I looked at the polls just now.

[RendeR]

And can someone tell me why a school named "Bowling Green" has orange as a uniform color?

[MJ4H]

Arkansas trying to recover from a pretty heart-breaking 2 game losing streak by hosting North Texas tonight. 14-0 5 minutes in. Let the healing begin. Oh and Casey Dick has a 61 yd TD pass.

[Young Drachma]

Now all we need is Jake Locker and Ty's boys to put it on USC and we'll have had us a day.

[cthomer5000]

Yeah, and even as a die hard RU fan, I wouldn't complain in the slightest.

[Young Drachma]

Frankly, all of this excitement over Rutgers being 'good' is too much for me. I liked it better when Rutgers was a quasi-good academic school and no one ever expected them to win ever. All of this Rutgers supposed to win stuff is just throwing me off to the nth degree. That professor who raised hell the other day about RU selling its soul to the devil of intercollegiate sports was right. I don't like this trend and to me, it's a battle I doubt they can really win.

And that's not because of the win today, I've been thinking about it for a while now. I just don't like where it goes. Because if Schiano does leave, they're back to square 1.

[k0ruptr]

Brennans 4th pick

[digamma]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

What an embarassment.
This is far too many games where I feel like Clemson has losst despite having superior talent.

I guess I am the only one who has noticed all year that Jamees Davis is a beast and runshard while Spiller dances and goes down by arm tackles. Don't get me wrong Spiller is dynamic and has game breaking ability on every play, but the coaches have simply refused to force feed #1. To start the 2nd half they come out with a steady dose of Davis and march down the field, from then on he is forgotten.


I will look it up shortly but I will bet he averaged 5+ypc but did not get more than 12 carries.

Oh well another typical Clemson GT game of weirdness and NCAA 07 like momentum swings. And while Tenuda deserves applause for for a good gameplan and blitzing often, I can't help but wonder if the offensice play callers even watched the game....

Superior talent? Were we watching the same game? Have we watched the same series for the last 20 years?

Clemson has an excellent defensive front and two playmakers at running back, however the offensive line is not good and the quarterback is below average.

Tech has a better offensive line and a running back corps that is just a notch below Clemson's. Tech's QB is not an all star either. Both teams have average wide receivers--both dropped balls today.

The front seven on defense is every bit as good as Clemson's. Secondaries are probably a wash.

In a pretty evenly matched game, it comes down to special teams and turnovers. Tech had a flawless special teams game. Clemson did not.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by digamma

Superior talent? Were we watching the same game? Have we watched the same series for the last 20 years?

Clemson has an excellent defensive front and two playmakers at running back, however the offensive line is not good and the quarterback is below average.

Tech has a better offensive line and a running back corps that is just a notch below Clemson's. Tech's QB is not an all star either. Both teams have average wide receivers--both dropped balls today.

The front seven on defense is every bit as good as Clemson's. Secondaries are probably a wash.

In a pretty evenly matched game, it comes down to special teams and turnovers. Tech had a flawless special teams game. Clemson did not.

Tech ouplayed Clemson, no doubt.
But Talent wise?
Tech wins OL
QB is a wash (hard to say how average harper is when he is laying on his back 13 times)
Rb Advantage Clemson GT is good but clearly a step behind
WR advantage Clemson
DL I think Clemson is a notch or two above
LB same
DBs a wash or maybe slight advantage to GT

You have 2 of the top 10 NATIOANL NCAA 100 meter sprinters on Clemson.
I think this game could have been lopsided with a coach in orange...

Sorry I am not a TB hater, actually I am a huge supporter, but this wwas pathetic.

[k0ruptr]

rushing TD for colt.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Tech ouplayed Clemson, no doubt.
But Talent wise?
Tech wins OL
QB is a wash (hard to say how average harper is when he is laying on his back 13 times)
Rb Advantage Clemson GT is good but clearly a step behind
WR advantage Clemson
DL I think Clemson is a notch or two above
LB same
DBs a wash or maybe slight advantage to GT

You have 2 of the top 10 NATIOANL NCAA 100 meter sprinters on Clemson.
I think this game could have been lopsided with a coach in orange...

Sorry I am not a TB hater, actually I am a huge supporter, but this wwas pathetic.

I think TB's playcalling was suspect, particularly on first down. But, you're not exactly dealing with an offensive juggernaut on the other side of the ball.

I think you give your D-Line too much credit vs. GT's. Our ends are much superior. Your tackles may be better. The reason why our safety and LB blitzes are so successful is because the ends demand attention. Spiller was having to pick up #93 all afternoon. He and #90 are both excellent ends.

I don't think the talent gap is as big as you think (if there is one at all), and the tightness of the series over the last 20 years is testament to that.

[duckman]

Well, my day got a little brighter. Now we need to "hang half a hundred" on Fexas next week and get the inside track on the Big XII South.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by TroyF

...I think it was pretty egotistical of OU to think they'd hold CU to 13 or under this week. FSU shouldn't have held CU to under 13. OU just came off a game where they gave up 21 to Tulsa and figured CU was that much worse? Wacko.

Gotta disagree with you Troy... I think you gave a pretty even-handed analysis, but after seeing both, Tulsa has the better offense in my humble opinion. Smith rates ahead of Hawkins in nearly every regard, if you ask me.

Colorado's line did a much better job than Tulsa's did, and that ended up being big towards the end. OU was so mistake-prone that their defense was on the field all day, and they couldn't rise to that.

Don't get me wrong; I offer my kudos to Colorado. In fact, when it was 24-17, I told my wife, "OU has been outplayed today, and they'll be lucky to win." I just think it was the failings in so many areas of play that led to the defense falling apart at the end.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by digamma

I think TB's playcalling was suspect, particularly on first down. But, you're not exactly dealing with an offensive juggernaut on the other side of the ball.

I think you give your D-Line too much credit vs. GT's. Our ends are much superior. Your tackles may be better. The reason why our safety and LB blitzes are so successful is because the ends demand attention. Spiller was having to pick up #93 all afternoon. He and #90 are both excellent ends.

I don't think the talent gap is as big as you think (if there is one at all), and the tightness of the series over the last 20 years is testament to that.

No way your ends are "much superior" Ours are Sophs (Merling a RS and Sapp a true) and both will be in the NFL in 1 more year, likely both 1st rounders...at least according to Kiper.

The reason GT had so much pressure is they rush 5 or 6 EVERY play, they neever use a 4 man front, tenuda never has.

Clemson on the other hand uses mostly 3 man fronts while dropping a DE into the flats for coverage

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I guess I am the only one who has noticed all year that Jamees Davis is a beast and runshard while Spiller dances and goes down by arm tackles. Don't get me wrong Spiller is dynamic and has game breaking ability on every play, but the coaches have simply refused to force feed #1. To start the 2nd half they come out with a steady dose of Davis and march down the field, from then on he is forgotten.

Considering what you already pointed out (the threat that Spiller represents), I'd say Davis getting more carries than Spiller in 4 of 5 games so far, and the same number in the win over Furman is a pretty reasonable mix. Throw in that Spiller is (apparently) a better receiver (or at least more trusted) and that it's probably a little soon to decide that Spiller won't return to this form of last year, and that the rotation does tend to keep both backs fresh, I'm not sure I'd count this as a big problem.

Also, and I wasn't really conscious that this was as dominant as it was, but Clemson only ran 6 offensive plays (all passes) in the 4th quarter thanks in part due to the fumbled punt. And after the opening drive, they went back to Spiller for a 3-and-out before coming back to Davis for some success again but then they got pass happy right before the end of the third quarter & that was the end of the day for both backs.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Now all we need is Jake Locker and Ty's boys to put it on USC and we'll have had us a day.

Not gonna happen.

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii playin some awesome Defense.

[Celeval]

Huge play by the Florida State defense in a 7-0 game - sack and a fumble recovered inside the ten. This may put Alabama away, especially since JP Wilson is limping off the field.

[Celeval]

Touchdown Florida State on first down. 13-0 pending the extra point, which may be more than enough the way the defense has been playing.

[Swaggs]

Hell, after today, I still like WVU's chances of getting to a BCS bowl game, either at large or as BE champ. Crazy day.

[k0ruptr]

5th pick for colt, lol not his fault at all, our wide reciever tried to tuck the ball and somehow threw it up in the air instead right into the defenders arms

[JonInMiddleGA]

Barring something totally unforeseen, I bet the Nick Saban call-in show will be some fun listening on the next episode.

edit to add: D.J. Hall makes huge catch on the backline on the end zone to cut the lead to 14-7. That's half the "unforeseen" I guess.

[VPI97]

HUGE play for FSU!

[Young Drachma]

Locker and UW looking good early. But it's early...

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Jim G.

The anti-Wolverine crowd is about to have a little fun, courtesy of a freshman transfer named Artis Chambers.

(just a teaser, I'd like to get people visiting Football Frontier more regularly).

Oy. Not what I wanted to see after getting back from the game.

I didn't think Henne looked all that great -- the defense just gave him better field position. But on the other hand, he might have still been hurt. I actually missed Henne's opening drive, too, since I forgot the game started at 11, not 12 (you'd think I'd have figured out that central time zone thing after 4 years).

[MJ4H]

McFadden and Jones both over 100 yards rushing (131 each as of now) in the first half. Arkansas 45, North Texas 0 2nd quarter.

[Eaglesfan27]

Williams with a pick for USC!

[Young Drachma]

Interception by Locker.

[RendeR]

I hereby offer up Minnesota as having the single ugliest uniform on national television thus far this season.

All that yellow.....*shudder*

[RendeR]

DOLA and its anot a real yellow, its a nasty mustard yelow too....

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I hereby offer up Minnesota as having the single ugliest uniform on national television thus far this season.

All that yellow.....*shudder*

Yep. Had to change the channel.

[RendeR]

Seriously, its hard to watch my buckeyes with that eye-shredding uniform on the other side of the field....

[Eaglesfan27]

Stupid personal foul by USC after Booty threw a pick.

[RendeR]

Wow, there's a stat I didn't know...Ohios State is now #1 all time with NFL draft picks at 66. (according to the announcing team)

[Celeval]

Wow... Alabama WR Keith Brown makes a great catch for a touchdown to pull within 7 against FSU, and is immediately hit and knocked out for about a minute. Score stands, though, and Alabama is within seven with 1:06 to play.

[VPI97]

...and Bama recovers the onsides kick.


...or will it be called back?

[Celeval]

...and the Crimson Tide recover the onside kick around midfield. They're checking to make sure it went ten yards before a touch.