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Old 11-05-2011, 10:42 PM   #202
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If Okie State played LSU in the BCS Title game, LSU would absolutely destroy the Pokies. LSU has the best college secondary I can recall seeing.

Then it would be a great matchup because Okie St has 6 stud WRs and a freakishly good offense. I know we all like to think the SEC is the best in everything but none of the offenses LSU have played are comparable to the skill they would see from OKl St.

LSU might score at will on Okie St but it wont be from LSU shutting them down.

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Old 11-05-2011, 10:43 PM   #203
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Bama can put the blame on their qb that should be starting in the MAC and their kicking.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:48 PM   #204
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Did he just call the Alabama/LSU game a classic with a straight face?

I don't have a problem with that, old school football with two exceptional defenses.

You keep Richardson from beating you, in spite of the fact that you have no offensive threat to speak of? And do it under this kind of spotlight? That's pretty classic afaic.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:51 PM   #206
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Huh? A better QB would have almost certainly picked apart a group that makes so many coverage mistakes (and tries to cover them with athleticism).

If Arkansas can pass protect, I'd give them a chance to knock LSU off.

They are still young (mostly Sophs) at DB, so they do make coverage mistakes. But at least one of the blown assignments today was on our coverage MLB. Also, part of the reason Richardson was held in check in the second half was because slot CBs and Ss were blitzing so often. It was also why LSU generated pressure in the second half. Its the most talented secondary in college football, and I think future NFL drafts will back that up.

To me the bigger question is, does the LSU pass rush live up to its billing? The lack of one is why Smith and WVU carved up some good yardage in the second half of that game, and it is a big reason why Bama had some big passes to WRs during the first three quarters.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:53 PM   #207
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Bama can put the blame on their qb that should be starting in the MAC and their kicking.

Outside of the sack at the end he wasn't all that bad. One INT against LSU isn't too bad. If I want to see sub par QBing, I watch the Big Ten.

The call that lead to the INT near the goal line I thought was horrible. As soon as he dropped back I knew bad was about to happen.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:58 PM   #209
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Was 14-14 but then Boise State scored with 25 seconds left in the first half. I'm still shocked UNLV's hung in there this long.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:59 PM   #210
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Washington is giving Oregon a real game here. If Price keeps settling in, they've got a legitimate chance at this pulling off the upset.

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Old 11-05-2011, 10:59 PM   #211
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:01 PM   #213
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If that was a Big Ten game everyone would be complaining about how terrible it was.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:02 PM   #214
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Outside of the sack at the end he wasn't all that bad. One INT against LSU isn't too bad. If I want to see sub par QBing, I watch the Big Ten.

The call that lead to the INT near the goal line I thought was horrible. As soon as he dropped back I knew bad was about to happen.

He had a lot of chances to make plays and failed. In OT alone he made a horrid pass on the screen to Richardson and overshot him OOB when he open along the sidelines. And yes the Int to the wide open TE was without saying. That is a pass that needs to be completed. You would expect more from a QB on the #2 team in the nation playing at home against a team stacking against the run.

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Old 11-05-2011, 11:06 PM   #215
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He had a lot of chances to make plays and failed. In OT alone he made a horrid pass on the screen to Richardson and overshot him OOB when he open along the sidelines. And yes the Int to the wide open TE was without saying. That is a pass that needs to be completed. You would expect more from a QB on the #2 team in the nation playing at home against a team stacking against the run.

Not every QB is Andrew Luck. LSU is the number one team in the country, and I would rather have him over both of their QBs.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:08 PM   #216
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Was 14-14 but then Boise State scored with 25 seconds left in the first half. I'm still shocked UNLV's hung in there this long.

I think this is a combination of BSU being slightly overrated and (no offense to UNLV fans), but probably a little bored/underwhelmed for this game as well.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:09 PM   #217
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Not every QB is Andrew Luck. LSU is the number one team in the country, and I would rather have him over both of their QBs.

It wouldnt take Andrew Luck to make them plays.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:12 PM   #218
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so if Oklahome State loses to Oklahome and Stanford loses to Oregon which are both very possible does this mean Bama jumps ahead of Boise for the rematch?
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It wouldnt take Andrew Luck to make them plays.

You also missed the point that the number one team in the country doesn't exactly have stellar QBs either.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:13 PM   #220
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so if Oklahome State loses to Oklahome and Stanford loses to Oregon which are both very possible does this mean Bama jumps ahead of Boise for the rematch?

'Bama lost at home. As much as it pains me, Boise State should be ahead of them.
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so if Oklahome State loses to Oklahome and Stanford loses to Oregon which are both very possible does this mean Bama jumps ahead of Boise for the rematch?

I think a 1 loss Oklahoma team might get in before Bama.
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:14 PM   #222
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I think this is a combination of BSU being slightly overrated and (no offense to UNLV fans), but probably a little bored/underwhelmed for this game as well.

No offense taken. The program is complete shit right now and I'm still not sold on Hauck turning it around. It's frustrating because even if the on campus stadium they've been talking about the last few years never gets built, the football team would get a ton of support if they started developing consistent winning. And I'm not even talking conference titles. I'm talking consistent above .500, bowl-eligible seasons.

I mean hell, the basketball team even when it needed a rebuild when Kruger first came to campus, was still strongly supported (Of course, the Thomas & Mack is also a great place to watch a basketball game whereas Sam Boyd Stadium is a soul-less, dull pit in the middle of the desert).
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You also missed the point that the number one team in the country doesn't exactly have stellar QBs either.

I didnt get the relevance and I didnt care to debate that. Both teams dont have great QB play. Part of the reason the score was 9-6 tonight.
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Grats LSU, condolences to everyone else who wasted a Saturday evening watching that.

And to think we made fun of Browns-Seahawks.
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And to think we made fun of Browns-Seahawks.

Don't worry, Denver and Oakland is a featured game tomorrow.
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As much as it pains me, Boise State should be ahead of them.

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I think a 1 loss Oklahoma team might get in before Bama.

Not if the pollsters do their job.
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so if Oklahome State loses to Oklahome and Stanford loses to Oregon which are both very possible does this mean Bama jumps ahead of Boise for the rematch?

This could also happen if Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma
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I just don't see them letting a rematch happen. They jumped a 1 loss Florida team over Michigan in 06 who lost by 3 on the road. Even if Bama was ahead of Oklahoma initially I think Oklahoma would jump them if they won out.

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This could also happen if Oklahoma State loses to Oklahoma

Good call!

I never proof read. Its why I end up editing 90 percent of my posts.
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I didnt get the relevance and I didnt care to debate that. Both teams dont have great QB play. Part of the reason the score was 9-6 tonight.

I hate the SEC but enjoyed this game. I don't need to see 100 points scored every game to validate well-played football. These were 2 of the best defenses I have seen in a very long time, and I am not so sure that even the second coming of Brett Favre in Andrew Luck would have done much better tonight.
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As much as it pains me, Boise State should be ahead of them.

I'm sorry, but this is an absurd statement IMO. Alabama would beat Boise by 21+. Is Boise a fun program and a nice story, yes, but lets not pretend they are a legitimate NC contender with the schedule they play.
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I'm sorry, but this is an absurd statement IMO. Alabama would beat Boise by 21+. Is Boise a fun program and a nice story, yes, but lets not pretend they are a legitimate NC contender with the schedule they play.

This again?

*sigh*
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FWIW I think a 1 loss Oregon team gets in over any of the other 1 loss teams. Their only loss would be to LSU and they would have wins over Stanford, USC, Arizona State, and whoever they play in the PAC 12 title game.
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I hate the SEC but enjoyed this game. I don't need to see 100 points scored every game to validate well-played football. These were 2 of the best defenses I have seen in a very long time, and I am not so sure that even the second coming of Brett Favre in Andrew Luck would have done much better tonight.

I dont mind defensive battles I just think the bama QB blew it. In games like that you get few chances to make plays so when you get them they need to be made. He blew every chance to make a play he had.

I think Luck would have found a way to get the ball to the wide open TE running a deep cross without having it picked.
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This again?

*sigh*

What again?

Anyone who thinks a team should have a shot in the title game just because they go unbeaten isn't looking at things objectively. Houston is unbeaten, should we be talking about them as a NC contender?
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Anyone who thinks a team should have a shot in the title game just because they go unbeaten isn't looking at things objectively. Houston is unbeaten, should we be talking about them as a NC contender?

I'd give them as much consideration as BSU. And I'm not sure they wouldn't present at least as much of a challenge to Bama or LSU.
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I dont mind defensive battles I just think the bama QB blew it. In games like that you get few chances to make plays so when you get them they need to be made. He blew every chance to make a play he had.

I don't recall him having very many honestly (and believe me, I've seen enough shitty QB play in the past few years to last a lifetime, so I know it when I see it).
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FWIW I think a 1 loss Oregon team gets in over any of the other 1 loss teams. Their only loss would be to LSU and they would have wins over Stanford, USC, Arizona State, and whoever they play in the PAC 12 title game.

Yes, that brutal schedule the Ducks have against Missouri State, Nevada, Arizona, Cal, and Colorado is almost as tough as Boise State's. I realize they lost to LSU and have yet to play Stanford and USC, but c'mon...Oregon? I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose both of those games btw.
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What again?

Anyone who thinks a team should have a shot in the title game just because they go unbeaten isn't looking at things objectively. Houston is unbeaten, should we be talking about them as a NC contender?

Isn't this how the championship game is chosen? Last I checked, the BCS system is totally subjective.
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What again?

Anyone who thinks a team should have a shot in the title game just because they go unbeaten isn't looking at things objectively. Houston is unbeaten, should we be talking about them as a NC contender?

Are we forgetting that Georgia will most likely win the SEC East and BSU beat them by 14 at Georgia?
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Are we forgetting that Georgia will most likely win the SEC East and BSU beat them by 14 at Georgia?

And it was a nice win. Are we forgetting 'Bama curb stomped Arkansas, Florida, and Penn State?
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Isn't this how the championship game is chosen? Last I checked, the BCS system is totally subjective.

Unless there is a playoff or every team plays each other you have to factor in strength of opponents played. Boise plays 1-2 difficultly opponents a year. Teams in the SEC play almost every week against top competition, you have to factor in attrition.
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Yes, that brutal schedule the Ducks have against Missouri State, Nevada, Arizona, Cal, and Colorado is almost as tough as Boise State's. I realize they lost to LSU and have yet to play Stanford and USC, but c'mon...Oregon? I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose both of those games btw.

You can cherry pick any schedule out there, doesn't mean a thing. Lets hope this argument doesn't matter and the Huskies give them their second loss tonight.
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And it was a nice win. Are we forgetting 'Bama curb stomped Arkansas, Florida, and Penn State?

And this thread officially enters the netherworld again. Let's cover it all right here:

We need a playoff system.
Why, this one works just fine! The best teams from the SEC play in the NCG!
Boise State is a cute story, but they could never play with the SEC.
But they beat Georgia this year.
That's irrelevant, Alabama beat 3 SEC teams, so there!
They have also beaten Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, and TCU.
Those games don't mean anything though, because they aren't in the SEC!
We need a playoff system, you know, like every other major sport in North America.
Why, this one works just fine!
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And it was a nice win. Are we forgetting 'Bama curb stomped Arkansas, Florida, and Penn State?

Penn State is a fraud and Florida's victories this year have been against FAU, UAB, Tennessee, Kentucky and Vandy. And oh boy, they'll get another against Furman.

I'll grant you Arkansas.
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Solid answer by Washington. If price stays composed this half then they should be able to keep scoring. Could really use a TO by the defense to get even.
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