05-28-2006, 06:11 PM | #201 | |
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Good deal. As for the keys talking about keyboard shortcuts, I guess I understand. I never use them though, in most games, so no big deal to me.
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05-28-2006, 06:15 PM | #202 | |
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Yeah, I have to wonder why someone would fail to include them. But this is not a dealbreaker for me and as I said, I am enjoying the game so far. At least the demo allows potential buyers to test things out for themselves. |
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05-28-2006, 06:34 PM | #203 | |
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Where is the patch? I've cruised around a bit on Matrix, but can't find it. |
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05-28-2006, 06:42 PM | #204 | |
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http://www.matrixgames.com/games/downloads.asp?gid=329
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05-28-2006, 07:19 PM | #205 |
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BTW, downloaded the 1.1 patch and my game seems MUCH stabler. Been playing the hell out of it all day. The first baseball sim I've really enjoyed.
I just thought I'd follow up since my earlier posts were sort of negative/frustrated. Back to free agency now......
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05-28-2006, 10:07 PM | #206 |
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That's good to hear path12. Shaun is doing a heck of a job since release.
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05-28-2006, 11:35 PM | #207 | |
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I agree, can't wait to see how the patch works with the Deadball era issues.....The more I play this game, the more I am thinking this might be the first version of OOTP I don't get. |
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05-29-2006, 12:12 AM | #208 |
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Just an FYI for sim speed geeks.
I started a sim in 2006 at 9 AM this morning. Let it go until I returned from Dinner at around 5:30. It had just finished 2018. I'm going to play around with the new patch, but then I plan on starting a career in 1900 with fictional players and sim through 2006 while I'm at work for a couple of weeks. I'll be getting OOTP, so it'll be interesting to see the differences between that game and this one. If I had to make a prediction now, I'd say PureSim will win this one going away. The only thing I really want to see more of in PureSim is the stats. A more robust statistical tracker and I'm playing this the rest of the Summer. |
05-29-2006, 06:54 AM | #209 | |
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My hitting has died and my pitchers are blowing since I got the beta patch 1.11. Not saying it's because of the patch, I'm just upset about my team going on a losing streak and falling out of first place.
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05-29-2006, 08:54 AM | #210 | |
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The curse of the patch! Last edited by MizzouRah : 05-29-2006 at 08:54 AM. |
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05-29-2006, 09:03 AM | #211 | |
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Great, the game has curses. I guess I won't be trading away rookie pitcher Babe Ruth anytime soon.
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05-29-2006, 10:08 AM | #212 | |
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Have you posted your ideas for Shaun? He's always open to improving the game. |
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05-29-2006, 10:29 AM | #213 | |
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Anyone else having trouble getting that download links to work? Edit: Hmm at closer look those are ftp links. I thought both Mozilla and IE would handle ftp links. Off to retrieve them. Last edited by Glengoyne : 05-29-2006 at 10:32 AM. |
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05-29-2006, 11:57 AM | #214 |
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Like what I am seeing from the Patch in terms of more Decisions and Complete games have doubled, but that is only from 5 or so leading the League, to 10, 11.
The main Reason I think is the Pinch hitting AI. Had a game yesterday I was watching where the visiting Team had a 1-0 lead, hitting in the top of the 7th inning with 1 out, nobody on and the AI Pinch hit for the Pitcher, who had thrown 50 pitches through 6 innings and had a 3 hitter going. I might be brave and play around with the XML file.....or just safe and blasphemous and install the DH in both Leagues to see if that makes a difference Apart from this I am loving the game, the PSPN reports are awesome and the Almanac is superb!! Last edited by BYU 14 : 05-29-2006 at 11:58 AM. |
05-29-2006, 01:37 PM | #215 | |
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05-29-2006, 01:40 PM | #216 |
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dola,
Didn't see the new patch (I've been working, okay??). Maybe now with the new patch my XML will be purrrrrfect. |
05-29-2006, 01:56 PM | #217 | |
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I agree that the pinch hitting AI may be the problem. I have adjusted the GM tendency to rarely pinch hit and still do not get enough CG's. Also might have to do with the hitting ratings of the pitchers. Back in the early 1900's, many pitchers were good hitters, but it isn't reflected when they are imported. |
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05-29-2006, 03:51 PM | #218 | |
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To add to the pitchers hitting abilities, when I drafted Babe Ruth his hitting ratings were like any other pitchers, crap. So I figured I would edit a player this one time just to bump up his ratings in that area. They didn't stick though. He still has 9 contact, 10 power, and 13 eye...or something like that. Must be something going on there if the ratings wouldn't save.
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05-29-2006, 06:07 PM | #219 | |
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I believe I have, though not in the Matrix forum. I know Shaun is improving the game. (an already pretty solid effort IMHO) He's stated every pitch is tracked, so he'll be able to add more stats as he goes along. Well, sign me up. Give me stats, stats and more stats. I want to open up the almanac and lose myself in the history of the leauge. I want to see runs created, VORP, and the like for every player. I look at the OOTP reports and just drool. If only the darned game could match the great statistical output. |
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05-31-2006, 01:56 PM | #220 |
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Anybody else try to import a retrosheet schedule?
I started a association in 2005 and am tired of playing the same schedule over and over and tried to import the 2004 retrosheet schedule and it said it wasn't compatible with my current association.
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05-31-2006, 02:22 PM | #221 | |
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Read this a little while ago.. sorry if it's been posted.
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06-02-2006, 12:02 AM | #222 |
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mmmmm. drafted Matt Williams and Mark McGwire and Ellis Burks onto my '86 Red Sox.
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06-02-2006, 10:56 AM | #223 | |
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06-02-2006, 02:07 PM | #224 |
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For those who have played both this and OOTP, which do you prefer at this point?
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06-02-2006, 03:14 PM | #225 |
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Is there an option to hide some of the player ratings? OOTP has this feature and, for me, it makes it a more realistic experience. After all, real GM's don't know that a player is rated a 10 for power.
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06-02-2006, 03:50 PM | #226 | |
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I've been playing this as of late; especially with the latest beta releases.
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06-02-2006, 04:35 PM | #227 | |
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OOTP awaits you. |
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06-02-2006, 05:26 PM | #228 | |
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IMHO, right now, PureSim is the better game. That said, I'm in the early stages of playing with OOTP and playing it a lot right now. I think PureSims AI is better at this point, while OOTP has a much deeper, engrossing stats model. (I can literally get lost in a league history with OOTP) I just finished a 70+ year sim with OOTP and the results were very believable in terms of pure stats. PureSim has a great career arc, one of the best I've ever seen. At this point, both games seem to be dedicated to improvement. This may be one of those that's to early to call. I'd love to revisit this post in about a month and a couple of patches for each game later. I'd probably suggest downloading the demos of both and playing them now. See which one you like better. |
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06-02-2006, 05:42 PM | #229 | |
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They are both pretty damn good games. OOTP will be much better after a few patches, and Puresim is more into tweak mode right now on the patches. While they are both baseball games, they are very different. I see no reason not to get both. |
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06-02-2006, 05:55 PM | #230 | |
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Damn you! Bad credit card, get back in your home!! It's the weekends that get me wanting to spend my time exploring a new game. OOTP 6.5, Puresim, and now the urge to get OOTP 2006 is coming again. It'll be nice to see what you OOTP 2006 players think after next weeks patch. Last edited by MizzouRah : 06-02-2006 at 05:57 PM. |
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06-02-2006, 11:32 PM | #231 | |
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I'd have to agree with this. I've enjoyed both games for a few iterations. If I want to redo history with a twist, I play OOTP. If I want to actually take over a team, I tend to play PureSim, though I will play OOTP that way from time to time. Both games are definitely worth a buy. When I get more time to play anything and I stop playing College Hoops (what can I say, I'm a former baller), I'll be giving both some time. Edit: Is anyone able to get to the Matrix Games forums? Haven't been in awhile and I can't get to anything on their site. Last edited by rjolley : 06-02-2006 at 11:34 PM. |
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06-02-2006, 11:41 PM | #232 | |
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Said patch may be the deciding factor for me. OOTPB just looks so much more professional and nice to use. The immersion factor seems to be damn high, too, which is one of my primary interests. |
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06-02-2006, 11:42 PM | #233 |
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Let's say I want to create a fictional league of say, roughly 24 teams and fast sim 50 years or so of history. Everything is fictional, fictional logos, stadiums, players, etc.
Then I take over one of the teams and play out every individual game. Play as both a manager and a General Manager. Which game would better suit me? Or is it too early to decide?
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06-02-2006, 11:44 PM | #234 | |
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Whew. Thought it was just me. I was hoping that latest Beta that Shaun was talking about was going to be posted already, but I keep timing out on my connection to the forum boards.
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06-03-2006, 12:08 AM | #235 | |
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I won't lie, I've been reading some good things about it as well.. which has my interest somewhat, but then I read about some big issues so... patch away and revisit. |
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06-03-2006, 01:04 AM | #236 | |
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OOTP looks one hell of a lot prettier. That said, as frustrating as I found the initial release of PureSim to be, it's one hell of a lot more bug-free than OOTP is. So it's something of a trade-off. |
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06-03-2006, 07:08 PM | #237 |
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Just a question from a guy who apperently is not a major baseball stat geek since I have to ask this question....
What stats do you guys feel are missing from PureSim? I have not noticed anything missing really, although some more lifetime stats would be nice, like lifetime lefty vs righty stuff and the like.... I ask because I always see guys saying PureSim lacks in stats.
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06-03-2006, 07:53 PM | #238 | |
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Text-based sports sims' "looks" are not of much concern. But, if by looks you mean UI usability that is another and in that case PS is Wayyyyyyyyyy ahead of OOTB. |
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06-03-2006, 07:56 PM | #239 | |
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Ugh, well YMMV. I've always thought the UI was kinda clunky.
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06-03-2006, 08:02 PM | #240 |
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I'm not concerned with the statistical depth of puresim at this point, because Shaun has made it clear that puresim logs every pitch's details. He could easily generate those stats, I'm sure, if he felt they were really necessary.
It looks like I'm going to be purchasing Puresim soon, but I'm definitely still considering picking up OOTPB later this summer. |
06-03-2006, 08:11 PM | #241 |
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could we see VORP in PS?
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06-03-2006, 08:29 PM | #242 | |
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Victim Offender Reconciliation Program? Sorry, I actually did have to look it up though. I had to read the definition a couple times before it clicked what it was, but yeah sounds like a cool stat to have.
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06-03-2006, 11:18 PM | #243 |
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After essentially simming through one season in the PureSim demo, I'm lukewarm about the game. Nothing really stands out, aside from the interface being relatively easy to get my head around. The statistical landscape the game generates is nowhere near as engrossing as I'd hoped it would be. Then again, some stuff may be turned off because I'm playing the demo.
The PSPNcast gameplay screen for individual games is nice, though the player cards don't update throughout the game. The layout is fairly clean with plenty of information readily availible. I like the look-and-feel of the game being browser-like as it is. It feels very clean. Seeing the stats update on the left hand side of the sim screen and seeing the records of the teams change as I sim through spans of time is cool. Reminds me of an old baseball game for the Genesis that I used to love. I simulated a season using a 20 team association split into two leagues each containing two divisions of 5 teams each. I thought that the initial options for setting up the league were a slight bit more limited than I'd want, but they were good enough. Going through the teams and edit regions and stuff was annoying and more of a chore than I'd like it to be. I don't know if that's really worth complaining about, because there aren't a whole lot of ways it can be much improved. Stat generation seemed reasonable. I didn't see any gaffes, but i didn't look particularly hard. Player cards looked nice at first but viewing stats seemed partially disorganized and not as visually pleasing as I thought it would be. The columns aren't the same width--there's not enough whitespace in general to make it pleasing to the eye. That's just a minor complaint, though. I'm going to download OOTPB's demo and give it a try tomorrow. |
06-04-2006, 12:04 AM | #244 | |
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Ah..... the OOTPB demo isn't out until June 7th Thurseday, I thought? |
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06-04-2006, 12:12 AM | #245 |
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In that case, I guess I won't be trying that demo.
(I haven't even tried to look for it yet.) |
06-04-2006, 01:57 PM | #246 | |
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Another updated Beta Patch 1.14
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06-04-2006, 02:03 PM | #247 |
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Has there been more than just one official patch? I applied that first official patch, but all the beta ones are confusing me...
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06-04-2006, 02:09 PM | #248 | |
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Just one official patch 1.10. The 1.14 patch that jbmagic is the current version with all fixes.
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06-04-2006, 03:20 PM | #249 | |
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I am surprised people are not lauding this more For me this is huge feature. Thanks Shaun:
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06-04-2006, 03:23 PM | #250 | |
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