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Great - above my expectations | 18 | 6.87% | |
Good - met most of my expectations | 66 | 25.19% | |
Average - so so, disappointed a little | 64 | 24.43% | |
Bad - sold us out | 101 | 38.55% | |
Trout - don't know yet | 13 | 4.96% | |
Voters: 262. You may not vote on this poll |
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12-27-2014, 07:29 AM | #24601 | |
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Good old North Korean insults. Hasn't gone on as long as Cuba but NK has been an albatross for a while now, wish Obama would do something about them.
I do find it hard to believe that NK has the sophistication and ability to hack into Sony (but was it really a hack or they paid someone off?). 2 of the 3 axis of evil are still around. I think this one really deserves to go and find it incredible that this guy has not been offed yet by someone in his military, inner circle etc. North Korea Insults Obama, Blames U.S. For Internet Outages - NBC News Quote:
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12-28-2014, 01:43 PM | #24602 | |
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Jeb v Hillary (but article didn't mention Romney) should be fun. Political dynasties in the making.
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12-28-2014, 01:49 PM | #24603 |
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Political dynasties aren't "fun" - they're the LAST thing that we as "ordinary people" should be looking forward to.
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12-28-2014, 01:56 PM | #24604 |
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Around this time four years ago all the way until he announced he wasn't a candidate, Mike Huckabee often led Romney in Republican polls. I don't put a lot of stock in anything at this stage. T-minus 18 months is mostly about getting a campaign structure and funding in place.
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12-28-2014, 02:02 PM | #24605 | |
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Eh, at least in the primary stage, I think we just want a candidate we can actually get behind. If the last name is Bush, Reagan, or Rumplestiltskin, fine by me. For that matter the name could be Hank Clinton, Kwame Roosevelt or Monica Biden ... just be a candidate that doesn't inspire eye rolls, nausea or deep dark depression.
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12-28-2014, 02:03 PM | #24606 |
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Took the quiz and found that overall, I closest match with Christie at 50%, Obama, Hillary & Jeb at 38%, Rand Paul at 30% and lowest with Ted Cruz at 28%. Romney wasn't listed.
I had the strongest social affinity with Christie (by far) and strongest economic with Ben Carson. Have to start paying attention to Christie. VoteMatch Quiz Last edited by Edward64 : 12-28-2014 at 02:04 PM. |
12-28-2014, 02:27 PM | #24607 | |
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Just for kicks I did the same quiz (hadn't done one in a while, I figured why not) Highest overall score? 68% total with ... Jeb (70% social, 65% economic) Ted Cruz got a 58%, no other GOP candidate gets more than a 55%. Now if I refigure and leave several questions (like abortion) as no opinion (based on eliminating issues that really aren't a factor in my voting) ... Cruz gets a 58%, Jeb gets a 50% ... and no other candidate even does that well. See why I don't care what the last name is?
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12-28-2014, 02:33 PM | #24608 |
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For me, Bernie Sanders is up there, even though I match 0% with him on the economy. Ted Cruz is #1, though around 40%. I don't think Ted Cruz is all that interesting.
In other words, whatever winds up as president, I'm probably unhappy. I would like better candidates in general. We're recycling names because the process itself eliminates anyone with any integrity. I was sad Jon Huntsman flamed out so early last time. He was someone I think I could have voted for. In the end, I might well vote for Hillary just because if I'm going to be unhappy policy-wise no matter what, I think it would be cool to have a woman president. |
12-28-2014, 03:58 PM | #24609 | |
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I retook it and left questions that weren't that important to me as no opinion. Christie and Carson came up as my top 2 and Cruz was second from the bottom. I see a pattern here. |
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12-28-2014, 04:13 PM | #24610 | |
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The surprise to me on this one was how poorly Carson fared with me, a quick look at the positions they attribute to him suggested that perhaps he may have fallen in the scoring (for me) due to a lack of positions on several issues.
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12-28-2014, 05:37 PM | #24611 | |
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48% Scott Keller (whoever that is) 40% for Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul
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12-28-2014, 07:02 PM | #24612 | |
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Formal "end", not sure if he should used the word "responsibly", it will come back to haunt him if bad things happen.
Given with where things are and with what happened in Iraq, keeping US "support" troops in Afghanistan is the right thing to do. Not a 100% pullout but still pretty good (at least I would consider this a pledge mostly fulfilled). Obama marks end of combat in Afghanistan - CNN.com Quote:
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12-28-2014, 07:28 PM | #24613 | |
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My top was 58% with Bernie
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12-28-2014, 07:54 PM | #24614 | |
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Obama 78% (Social 75%, Economic 80%) Hillary 58% (Social 65%, Economic 50%) Biden 55% (Social 60%, Economic 50%) Good thing I was already voting Hillary . Though Obama wins out big in Social and Economic, surprisingly.
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12-28-2014, 08:01 PM | #24615 |
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Putin's economic strategy involves:
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12-29-2014, 07:28 AM | #24616 |
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Wonder if Ted Cruz still thinks Putin is a great leader.
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12-29-2014, 07:34 AM | #24617 | |
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Obama 63% (Social 65%, Economic 60%) Sanders 53% (Social 60%, Economic 45%) Biden 50% (Social 55%, Economic 45%) Clinton 48% (Social 50%, Economic 45%) Cruz brings up the rear with 5%/5%/5% In a Biden/Clinton race I'd still probably vote Clinton. |
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12-29-2014, 07:49 AM | #24618 | ||
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The best thing the U.S. can do about NK is make it China's problem. NK is, after all, basically a client state of China (in that it's dependent on China for everything up to and including its continuing existence). What I hope is happening is that the Obama Administration is using NK to troll the Chinese (diplomatically, of course). As in "I dunno, guys, now Kim is saying XXXX. We may have no choice but to do $thingchinadoesn'twant." Remember, NK represents an existential threat to no one, not even South Korea, although SK would be heavily overrun in an initial invasion before NK was pushed back. And in such a worst-case scenario, China comes out far, far worse on the world stage than the U.S. for a) not keeping its client in line, b) from suffering the inevitable economic impact from the disruption in the area and c) having to rebuild/support NK once the hostilities died down. Quote:
As I recall from the news over the years since he took over, he actually proactively got rid of his likely challengers. And the ruling regime has always taken care of its top brass. Anyone still left with the werewithal to take out Kim is probably 110% loyal at this point. Last edited by flere-imsaho : 12-29-2014 at 07:50 AM. |
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01-07-2015, 05:58 PM | #24619 |
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01-07-2015, 06:05 PM | #24620 |
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I wonder how many of the newly insured can afford their deductibles.
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01-08-2015, 08:31 AM | #24622 |
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I wonder how much of that is due to the improving economy. That graph starts after the economy was in the tank.
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01-08-2015, 08:38 AM | #24623 | |
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I'm sure the economy is part of it, but the significant drop just as the Exchange Plans (and Medicaid Expansion) roll out seems a bit causal, too. Edit: Here's the unemployment rate, for comparison: As you can see, unemployment was steadily improving through the same period, while uninsured rates continued to rise. They only started to drop as the above mentioned ACA provisions took affect. Last edited by flere-imsaho : 01-08-2015 at 08:41 AM. |
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01-08-2015, 08:42 AM | #24624 |
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In other news: Boehner maintains House Speaker post despite biggest revolt in a century | US news | The Guardian
There's a lot of talk about how the GOP's going to have a pitched battle with Obama over the next 2 years, but with a thin majority in the Senate and robust dissident groups in both chambers it seems likely that there'll be more fireworks in their own caucus than with the President. |
01-08-2015, 02:51 PM | #24625 |
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Will Republicans bar Obama from State of the Union address? - MarketWatch
I'm sure the President is not going to be thrilled to walk into a Republican controlled House and give a speech that will fall on mostly deaf ears anyway... |
01-08-2015, 03:02 PM | #24626 |
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It would literally be one of the the stupidest things the Republicans could possibly do. It would make the shutdown look like genius.
Though thankfully it's just moronic talking heads and not actual Congresspeople saying so.
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01-08-2015, 03:17 PM | #24627 | |
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Yeah, it would be a 100% political win for the President and have no impact whatsoever on anything policywise. The discussion is some nice free red meat for the base, but the GOP leadership is way too smart to actually do it. |
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01-08-2015, 03:22 PM | #24628 |
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Though if I were the President, I might not pass up the opportunity to tweak Boehner a bit with the Tea Party. Before he starts his speech, he can specifically thank Speaker Boehner for the invitation to come present the speech. "It means a lot to me, John, that you invited me here and provided me with this platform to discuss the state of our union with Congress and the American people." |
01-08-2015, 09:16 PM | #24629 | |
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I like it as an investment if the costs are not prohibitive. Not sure if community is same as vocational but would support vocational as well. Let's see the nos.
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01-08-2015, 09:30 PM | #24630 |
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It's pretty clearly a preview for the State of the Union. Because it's Obama's idea, it won't get through Congress.
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01-09-2015, 07:37 AM | #24631 | |
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This is essentially the kind of thing for which I'm hoping over the next two years (plus a SCOTUS replacement or two). The GOP aren't going to let him do anything anyway, and indications are they're going to fight amongst themselves almost as much, so why not just spend two years trolling them and making them even angrier at each other? |
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01-09-2015, 07:14 PM | #24632 |
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Romney 2016 is apparently a thing.
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01-09-2015, 08:29 PM | #24633 |
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It was so fun the last time!
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01-09-2015, 08:36 PM | #24634 |
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Like Hillary, he'd be the 2nd oldest president ever at inauguration. Still pretty damn handsome though!
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01-10-2015, 11:44 AM | #24635 | |
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Romney was someone I could have supported other than his backing away from his own/similar healthcare reform legacy. So I'll look forward to any updated positions as Obamacare is reality now.
The Romney vs Bush battle will be entertaining. I guess this puts everyone else as a distant third or worse. Romney to GOP donors: βI want to be president.β - The Washington Post Quote:
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01-10-2015, 07:23 PM | #24636 |
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I'm obviously anti-Mitt, but I think the legacy of being the first Mormon president is very important to him.
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01-10-2015, 07:49 PM | #24637 |
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Romney wants it to be one way. But it's the other way
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01-10-2015, 09:30 PM | #24638 |
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Useless malleable git on the first go-round, usless malleable git now.
If he's the nominee, what's the fucking point?
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01-12-2015, 12:52 PM | #24640 |
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CENTCOM Twitter account hacked, suspended - CNN.com
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Unless the Pentagon is hosting the Twitter and YouTube servers, which I doubt.
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01-12-2015, 01:04 PM | #24642 | |
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Of course not - but it does sort of make our whole cyber-security setup (private and public) look like amateur hour IMO. Like...Twitter and YouTube don't spend enough on cyber-security to defeat a bunch of ____________ (insert whatever term you want to use here). Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 01-12-2015 at 01:09 PM. |
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01-12-2015, 08:37 PM | #24643 | |
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Not good. When I first read about AG representing the US, I was thinking that can't be right, too low level. Kerry or Biden would have been the minimum. What a mess.
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01-13-2015, 04:05 AM | #24644 | |
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Did Romney really create the healthcare reform legacy, or was it passed by a Democratic-controlled Massachusetts Legislature? |
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01-13-2015, 04:11 AM | #24645 | |
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Would need more details on what Obama is thinking here, but at face value, would this focus on skills/trades training, or just a path to college? If it's the latter, it's a terrible proposal. We already have too many people in college as it. If it's the former, wouldn't it be better to adopt an intense apprentice program that is incorporated into high school-similar to something along the lines of what Germany does? Last edited by Galaxy : 01-13-2015 at 11:35 AM. |
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01-13-2015, 10:48 AM | #24646 |
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Government-run community colleges could work, but this half-and-half stuff just leads to more cost inflation, doesn't it? The government so generously made cheap education loans available for everyone, so guess what, tuition costs just shot up and created the student loan debt generation, where even the middle and upper middle class kids start out life in a huge hole, which I think contributes to wealth disparity so much more than other things that are blamed like tax rates. Even with "free money", schools will just go after all that money that was saved some other way - more expensive textbooks, charging more for people who don't qualify for the program for whatever reason.
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01-13-2015, 10:50 AM | #24647 |
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Or continue to add more and more administrators while enslaving the academic faculty in part-time poverty.
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01-13-2015, 10:50 AM | #24648 |
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That said, I think the free community college program is worth looking at, and is an interesting idea.
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01-13-2015, 11:23 AM | #24649 |
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01-13-2015, 11:25 AM | #24650 | |
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Very much agree. Working at San Jose city college for last 9 years I have seen this in action. Most students do not make it, about 80% won't have a degree in 6 years. A large reason is they have to take college level math and English, when they are most likely at a 10th grade level (called English 92 here, by far most impacted course). Not tuition costs. The big problems I see is textbooks still costs about 5 times tuition. California has cheap tuition, but still this is where the real expense is. So much so, I wouldn't be surprised if it is the textbook lobby that is pushing this bill. IMHO. I think tuition and materials should be a tax deduction. Once a year, only completed units qualify. I have hope in the growing vocational movement. My school has a great cosmetology, emt, hac, dental and (amazingly) butcher programs, all without much prerequisites. |
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