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Old 02-20-2006, 08:13 PM   #2401
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I thought Schmidty was found with a bunch of knives? How does that make him the seer? He was definitely positive about Swaggs being good though (though his votes also make him so in my mind).
The scar from a kidney transplant definitely makes him Locke, but nobody's sure he's the seer. He seemed very sure of his statements about Swaggs, though, so I think he saw something (doesn't have to mean he was the seer, though).
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:16 PM   #2402
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I hate it when I refresh a half dozen times before realizing the thread has moved onto a new page.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:16 PM   #2403
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I guess Bearcat is a viable option, as well. The only thing he has going for him is that he clubbed one of the others to death.

He has never really validated that he was Michael to me, though.

Packer was Michael and did the clubbing, not Bearcat.

Ah well, I've done what I could. I need to get back to my dinner guests. But seriously, I don't see a thing that I've done that warrants voting my way. And it is a mistake -- I am a survivor.

Hope we get a bad guy.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:16 PM   #2404
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Bearcat, any special Michael powers we should know about?
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:20 PM   #2405
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Bearcat, any special Michael powers we should know about?


?

I'm not Michael. I am Mr Eko, and my power would not help here.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:20 PM   #2406
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Bearcat, any special Michael powers we should know about?
Not Michael - Bearcat = Mr. Echo/Eko.

Sorry I was a bit late, wife is sick. I just PM'd AE with my instructions, now it's just a wait until he shows. Sorry, Desmond.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #2407
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Is your case for him the fact that he had a choice of who to kill between Desnudo (Other) and Mckerney (Doctor) and he chose to kill Mckerney? And the fact that he hasn't really explained it to your liking?

Or is there more to it that I missed while trying to quickly catch up?

I'm not saying you're wrong or that it's not enough, I'm just making sure I've got your argument right.
Those things and going back to Day 1, the following people checked in and didn't mention survivor:

mckerney: doctor
Schmidty: seer
AlanT: Other
Kingfc: Other
saldana: Other
SnDvls: Duke
RPI/Path: Unknown
Desnudo: Assumed Other (Ethan Role)
Swaggs: Unknown, but presumably survivor
Desmond: Unknown

We have two unknowns (3 if you count Swaggs). Path and Desmond. Desmond doesn't feel right to me because of the above, and that's why I put him above Path.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #2408
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:25 PM   #2409
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I'm not Michael. I am Mr Eko, and my power would not help here.

My bad... thinking of PackerFanatic.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:26 PM   #2410
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Not Michael - Bearcat = Mr. Echo/Eko.

Sorry I was a bit late, wife is sick. I just PM'd AE with my instructions, now it's just a wait until he shows. Sorry, Desmond.
Well, if Desmond is an other, I'd say we win. If not, then I'll vote for Path.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:26 PM   #2411
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Everyone looks to the gun, which Celeval is holding...and then to the unlucky victim...
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:27 PM   #2412
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Everyone looks to the gun, which Celeval is holding...and then to the unlucky victim...

I guess Celeval is cleared.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:27 PM   #2413
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Everyone looks to the gun, which Celeval is holding...and then to the unlucky victim...
We win?
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:27 PM   #2414
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Anybody have a vote count?
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:27 PM   #2415
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Everyone looks to the gun, which Celeval is holding...and then to the unlucky victim...

I guess Celeval is cleared.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:28 PM   #2416
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I really dont know how to defend myself, there isnt much info I have other than that i can break ties and im a survivor.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:29 PM   #2417
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Whoa!

WTF?!
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:30 PM   #2418
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Everyone looks to the gun, which Celeval is holding...and then to the unlucky victim...

All I know is that I immediately regret voting for Celeval.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:30 PM   #2419
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Desmond spins from the impact and falls to the ground.

"You'll never leave the island alive! Haven't you figured that out yet? No one is coming for you...your only chance..."

And he dies.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:30 PM   #2420
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At this rate, we might get the lynch in tomorrow morning...
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:31 PM   #2421
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Desmond spins from the impact and falls to the ground.

"You'll never leave the island alive! Haven't you figured that out yet? No one is coming for you...your only chance..."

And he dies.
An other? I think definitely not one of us.

VOTE PATH

Only real choice left.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:32 PM   #2422
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:32 PM   #2423
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With that...the game is over. The survivors have won.

I'll post my thoughts, roles, etc tomorrow. I don't have that file in my work email, and I can't access yahoo's email here at work.

I will say this. I flubbed this game in the survivor direction inadvertantly a few times, and with that, I apologize.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:32 PM   #2424
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So, did we win?
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM   #2425
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Well, I'm out for the night. Good luck to us then. Sorry about that Desmond...I think I may have pushed Celeval to that point. On the positive side, at least that clears Celeval.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM   #2426
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Sweet.

It was fun. Thanks AE.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM   #2427
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Wow. Great job Celeval.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM   #2428
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An other? I think definitely not one of us.

VOTE PATH

Only real choice left.
Now that is classic.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM   #2429
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So, just a good guess or did you know something, Celeval?
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:35 PM   #2430
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good game survivors. congrats on the win.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:36 PM   #2431
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LOL. Good game others.

Nice win Celeval, I absolutely knew Desmond was an other!!!

BTW, early in the game, I sent messages to people using a code:

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This is a simple, but complicated code that will allow us to crudely communicate after the day is over.

If I begin a post with the first sentence containing the word bunker or some variation thereof, look in the next paragraph for the third word. This will more than likely indicate whom I'm PMing with.

Example: Maybe I should go to the hatch and hang out in the bunker.

I'm thinking Ardent, Barkeep, and Coffee Warlord might be evil.


If I begin a post with the word "I", look in the next paragraph for the first words and take the first letter of every other word.

Example: I think Swaggs was killed by Blade6119.

How many on-time votes originated from pennywisesb? I'm sorry, but I don't see how blade is a bad dude.

hoopsisbad

Didn't use it as much as I thought I would, what with the people I talked to dying and all...
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:36 PM   #2432
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Man I never got to hit someone with the Jesus stick.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:37 PM   #2433
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And you didn't give me the code when we talked!

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Old 02-20-2006, 08:37 PM   #2434
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Oops. Looks like I do have the roles. Give me a few minutes.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:38 PM   #2435
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Check that. False alarm. Another blasted APA homework assignment instead. Regard all further alarms.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:38 PM   #2436
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I gotta hear the story on Blade's role... he had my head spinning.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:39 PM   #2437
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Seriously. I found it this time.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:40 PM   #2438
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Seriously. I found it this time.


If he keeps this up I'm going to hit AE with the stick.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:41 PM   #2439
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With that...the game is over. The survivors have won.
Rock on. Good game, everyone, it was fun.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:42 PM   #2440
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So, just a good guess or did you know something, Celeval?
Good help from Raiders today. I was leaning Path over Des earlier, but he convinced me otherwise... and the bit about the role without the explanation pushed me farther.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:45 PM   #2441
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4. mckerney Doctor. Jack. You may choose one person to protect, never the same person two days in a row.

8. Raiders Army Communication expert. Sayid. You may choose one person a day to PM with. All PMs must be shared with me. For purposes of "a day", the day will start at the beginning of the end of night actions and end at the beginning of the next night action. At this time, you should have someone else selected to communicate with.

21. bearcat729 Priest. Mr. Eko. Misnomer. You are a priest, but a brutal plane crash survivor. Should you be lynched, you will grab one person at random and kill them before you are lynched. If you are attacked at night, you will kill one of "the Others", but you will die in the process (unlike the show, where Eko lives).

10. Schmidty Scout. John Locke. Locke seems to know a lot about scouting and the terrain, this makes you a scout/spy. Each night, you may follow, without fear of being caught, one person to know their true intentions.

6. Grammaticus Millionaire. Hurley. You are a millionaire who won the money by betting on the evil number set of "4,8,15,16,23, and 42". Ever since, you've had bad luck. You can play the numbers for a night action, but must suffer the consequences. I will not tell you what you'll receive if you play the numbers. I will not tell you the consequences. Out of fear of the numbers, you can not tell anyone else about the numbers. You may only play the numbers between nights 2 and 4. (The catch was if he played the numbers, he would know one of the Others. Two villagers would die as a result.)

14. Sndvls Conman. Sawyer. You're a conman. As such, you have your own agenda, and dieing isn't on it. While this won't help you if the Others come after you, it will help if you're about to be lynched. You may personally change the votes of "X" players who are voting for the current lynchee to the next highest vote receiver. You may only change enough votes to effect the lynch. I will determine who's votes are changed at random. You must PM me this action before the end of the lynch. You lose this ability after using it once.

15. Mr. Wednesday Musician. Charlie. You're a member of a band called DriveShaft. You unfortunately are also a drug addict. During the night actions you go out to get your fix. This could cause problems down the road. (The seer would see him as “evil.” However, he would have a small chance to witness one of the night kills while he gets high.)

19. Celeval Cop. Ben Lewis (really Ana Lucia, but I don't think you'd want to be referred to as a woman). Since you've been on the island, you have accused one villager of being one of "the Others", killed one of "the Others", and killed a villager. What does that mean? It means you have the power to kill one villager on demand. PM me and your action goes through when I see it. This would invalidate any vote, unless the deadline has passed. At that point, the villager dies, but the vote still counts.

18. RPI-Fan Handyman. Michael. You've lost your son, Walt. You must post, "Walt!", "They took my son!", or "They took my boy!" at least three times during the day action and at least once during the night action. I'd like for these quotes to be in bold. There may be a hidden benefit in doing so. (There wasn’t, but I didn’t want him to know this.)

13. Blade6119 The Black Smoke. You are on neither side. Every other night action, starting with night 1, you will kill a survivor or one of "the Others". You must PM your choice to me during that night action. Your goal is to survive to the end of the game, regardless of which side wins.



The Others---5 total. (The Others were given the tiebreaker and the ability to assign their roles.)


20. kingfc22

11. Desmond

3. Alan T

16. saldana

2. Desnudo

Brutal Other-- Before being lynched, you may choose one survivor to die with you. PM me your choice.

Cunning Other-- You mix in so well with the other survivors, there is absolutely no way for anyone to tell you are one of the Others.

Tiebreaking Other-- You've mixed in with your Cunning brother, and have the tiebreaker in a lynch scenario. However, unlike Cunning, you can be revealed as one of the Others.

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Villagers--no role

1. Kwhit
5. Swaggs
7. spleen1015
9. tanglewood
12. hoopsguy
17. pennywiseb

You are a simple survivor of the plane crash. You have no special ability of note. Good luck.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:52 PM   #2442
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Good game AE, I enjoied it.

Well played Desmond you had me fooled, but looks like I had 4 of 5 of the Others.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:57 PM   #2443
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13. Blade6119 The Black Smoke. You are on neither side. Every other night action, starting with night 1, you will kill a survivor or one of "the Others". You must PM your choice to me during that night action. Your goal is to survive to the end of the game, regardless of which side wins.

I had that one pegged (after he was dead, but it feels good to be right about something!)


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Old 02-20-2006, 08:59 PM   #2444
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holy crap, the survivors had a lot of power players...a bodyguard, 2 assassins, the duke, a seer and a witness, plus the hurley role (neat mechanic there). im surprised we survived as long as we did.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:02 PM   #2445
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the duke.


the duke role really was only useful if I got who I wanted though. That is why I had to have everyone vote me or AlanT for it to work. If two people would have put a vote on anyone else that person would have died. Once Blade and everyone chimed in on voting for me and I had the only other vote out, on AlanT, I knew that I was okay, just had to trust my gut on him being a baddie.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:03 PM   #2446
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dola - I thought you guys played really well. we just all got different hints off different people and it caught up to you all.

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Old 02-20-2006, 09:05 PM   #2447
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I felt the Hurley role would benefit the Others more than anything. I was a little disappointed to see that night kill request.

I screwed the pooch on the simple survivors PM. I should have changed each one of them. I didn't expect to see everyone band together that way. Further, I didn't expect RA to single out the word survivor in the initial posts.

The brutal villager was a random kill for lynch, Other kill at night.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:08 PM   #2448
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Yep, I had some misgivings on playing the word "simple" in terms of a role reveal and PM'd Ardent about it before commenting on it. But once that was in place the circle of trust was rolling.

The suspicion cast on Desnudo was pretty bogus - tough luck for the others that he took heat over something like that.

I thought a lot of people played really well on the survivor side. Hard to believe that we had this big of an advantage with a 15-5-1 (Blade as his own faction, so to speak) starting ratio, with the others having the tie-breaker role. But they never were able to break through into the ranks of the trusted.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:09 PM   #2449
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I sent a PM to Ardent after I got my role and was wondering what you all thought.

Did anyone find it funny that I got the role of conman? I mean I can't lie to save my life, and here I go and get the duke/conman role and have to tell my role and people still don't belive me. Just thought it was irony at it's finest.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:10 PM   #2450
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Yep, I had some misgivings on playing the word "simple" in terms of a role reveal and PM'd Ardent about it before commenting on it. But once that was in place the circle of trust was rolling.

Had I knew how critical it would turn out to be, I wouldn't have granted it.
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