Werewolf XXXVIII: Jack The Ripper (GAME OVER! GOOD WINS ON DAY SEVEN)

[Chief Rum]

Deadline. Writeup coming.

[DaddyTorgo]

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Anyhow, I thought the game was over since Chief Rum was in the thread for the past hour or so off and on...mostly on. I don't believe he's stuck around that much for a deadline before.

lol, thats a very bad reason to assume its over. He has been answering some questions i had about mechanics, so thats a possibility for why he was around.

[Raiders Army]

*shurg*

[Swaggs]

If we win, I feel like this will be the least I ever contributed to a WW game w/o getting killed very early.

[Izulde]

I wasn't moving my vote off of lynching both no matter what, so the discussions of the past few hours were largely immaterial to me.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Izulde

I wasn't moving my vote off of lynching both no matter what, so the discussions of the past few hours were largely immaterial to me.

So what you're telling us is that you're not a Material Girl?

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

So what you're telling us is that you're not a Material Girl?

No, but being a Victorian working girl, I am a pre-Madonna.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Izulde

No, but being a Victorian working girl, I am a pre-Madonna.

not bad

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Izulde

No, but being a Victorian working girl, I am a pre-Madonna.

I would've gotten the joke more, but I am seriously deficient in History...although I did pick up two History DVDs this past weekend: History of the WWE Championship and the Oakland Raiders History.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Izulde

No, but being a Victorian working girl, I am a pre-Madonna.

Solid.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I would've gotten the joke more, but I am seriously deficient in History...although I did pick up two History DVDs this past weekend: History of the WWE Championship and the Oakland Raiders History.

what better wwe history or oakland raider history?

Does jbmagic narrate the Oakland Raiders DVD?

[Izulde]

And thanks for the kudos on my pun, guys.

[st.cronin]

ww history > wwe history

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Izulde

what better wwe history or oakland raider history?

Does jbmagic narrate the Oakland Raiders DVD?

FWIW, I gotta cut him some slack being part of the Raider Nation.

[Chief Rum]

Just a day ago, the mob spent much of the day split on what to do.

Today, there seems little doubt. DaddyTorgo is considered by most to be the lead suspect in Barkeep's poisoning. There is less evidence for bulletsponge, but at this point, the mob will hang you for as little as not being around much.

A naysayer here or there would not dissuade them, and as the sun edged close to the western horizon, the mob called for the constables to fetch DaddyTorgo.

Bulletsponge was nowhere to be seen, though. A few Londoners went on the hunt for him, searching his home and the Cavell district where he lived. They at least found him hiding in an alley there. They grabbed him and dragged him kicking and screaming to Whitechapel Road, where DaddyTorgo was already being fit for his noose.

Soon, bulletsponge is standing side by side with DaddyTorgo, looking fate in the eyes. bulletsponge was blinking back fear, while DaddyTorgo just grinned sardonically.

Bulletsponge went first, yanked up into the air by a rope over a lamp post. He struggled mightily, trying to break the grip, swinging about. It did him little good. He was soon dead. The mob searched him carefully and found a knife. One of the constables inspected the knife and announced that it was indeed the knife that killed path12!

But evil is not gone from Whitechapel, and there is another person on the block. The mob make to pull up DaddyTorgo's rope when he yells, "None of you are worthy to kill me."

With that, he takes out his cane, which the constables had allowed him to walk out on, and sweeps off the wood casing, revealing a bright, gleaming sword! The mob tenses for his move, but they need not have. His eyes have the look of madness as he waves his sword briefly at the crowd, before plunging it into his own chest!

He does not make a sound, as he falls to the ground. And his sardonic smile never falters from his face as he dies on the cobblestones of Whitechapel Road. DaddyTorgo is dead.

Although no one in the mob can tell why they feel this way, but his death immediately removes a pall from the crowd and the district. Evil has been vanquished! The last of the killers is gone!

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SIDE OF GOOD. YOU HAVE REMOVED EVIL FROM WHITECHAPEL DISTRICT AND WON THE GAME.

[DaddyTorgo]

HAHHHH!!!! NONE OF YOUR LYNCHING FOR ME!!! NONE OF YOU ARE FIT TO KILL PROFESSOR MORIARITY!!!

[Blade6119]

GOOD GAME EVERYONE!!!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

lol, thats a very bad reason to assume its over. He has been answering some questions i had about mechanics, so thats a possibility for why he was around.

Actually I have been around on a number of nights, including last night. I couldn't be around for various reasons on some of the first nights (mostly work related), meaning I had to "drop in" for the lynch. I would have been around tonight if the game ended or not.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

GOOD GAME EVERYONE!!!

cept for evil. we really screwed the pooch and we also got unlucky a few times with die rolls as well as lathum getting picked off day 1.

[Raiders Army]

gg guys. Nice job in the end.

[path12]

Woot! OK, so why did you guys visit me again last night and what did you find out?

[Raiders Army]

Could you guys communicate? Also, could any of them kill me?

Edit--Could you bad guys communicate?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Could you guys communicate? Also, could any of them kill me?

we could all communicate except for lathum. he was on his own, but we knew who he was.

i don't think we had any restrictions against killing any of you, at least i know i didn't.

bullet was our conversion, lot of good that did us.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

cept for evil. we really screwed the pooch and we also got unlucky a few times with die rolls as well as lathum getting picked off day 1.

Lathum got picked off day 2, but you guys picked off NTN day 2...so it balances

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Lathum got picked off day 2, but you guys picked off NTN day 2...so it balances

cept lathum would have been an invaluable prostitue-killing machine, with him gone we had to split between killing prostitues and killing others. in hindsight we didn't get to the prostitues fast enough of course.

also losing control of hyde hurt us...i was on record as saying hyde needed to take a day off before he lost control of himself, but i was ignored.

then again i suppose i could have played the endgame better, but i think it was pretty much lose-lose

[path12]

Originally Posted by path12

Here is a list of all the 100% vouches that have occured so far in the 33 pages I just went through -- if there are any mistakes or clarifications let me know. I've tried to stay away from any vouch that was not a certainty.

Barkeep -- vouched for by bulletsponge, path, hoops, RA and Swaggs.
Blade -- vouched for by MrW and RA.
bulletsponge -- vouched for by Barkeep.
path12 -- vouched for by bulletsponge and RA. (I hadn't realized that).
st.cronin -- vouched for by RA.
hoopsguy -- vouched for by path, MrW, AlanT, Barkeep and RA.
Dodgerchick -- vouched for by Izulde.
Raiders Army -- vouched for by Blade and st.cronin.
Swaggs -- vouched for by Blade.
Izulde -- vouched for by Fouts, MrW, dubb, and Dodgerchick.

That leaves the following as not having been 100% vouched for by anyone:
DaddyTorgo
saldana
LoneStarGirl
dubb93

BTW, I just want to point out that I am very proud of this post in hindsight.

[Raiders Army]

Not being picky, but Moriarty, Fagin, the WW, and Hyde were all able to communicate? Wow. I'm surprised we won.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

Woot! OK, so why did you guys visit me again last night and what did you find out?

We didn't, actually. We messed up and forgot to send in a night order. We were trying to keep it a secret that we automatically investigated all crime scenes and got clues from them.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

BTW, I just want to point out that I am very proud of this post in hindsight.

yeah. at that point i think i PMed dubb and i was like "path just f*cked us"

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by path12

BTW, I just want to point out that I am very proud of this post in hindsight.

*pats back*

That was a pretty good analysis. I think the prostitutes were key to winning the game.

[Izulde]

Great game, guys. Two wins in a row! Of course, the last win was mostly Alan T's doing. This win I actually feel like I contributed some worthwhile things.

[Lathum]

CR- Thanks for running the game, I can tell you put alot of work into it so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way.


I was really pissed off at everyone saying I messed up etc....

I just don't understand the mechanic in the game when there is a killing and 4 of us are in one sector. 3 of them run to Mr. Wed screams, hoops can identify all 4 people in the sector then Mr. Wed can identify the 3 people who responded. It makes it impossible for me to survive that.

[st.cronin]

Also, Blade was Watson and I was Holmes.

[Blade6119]

Cronin was holmes, i was watson...watson had no bodyguard powers. From the start i took the spotlight and eventually claimed holmes all to cover cronin. I figured eventually you would want to kill the one seer alive, but would miss and kill me. But you guys never came, which still suprises me.

Every murder we would visit...we investigated every crime scene and learned things from each. Thats how we bagged saldana that night, from our inspection of scmidty's body...thats whow we knew barkeep was killed by a lover, becuase he found a rash on his/her back which made it clear.

Last night we had communication issues..he asked me to send a scan in(since he said he was gone for the night about an hour before lynch), and i typed an order up. Right when i was going to send it in, he showed up(about 4 hours past lynch)...so we talked, and decided on scanning DT. Unfortunately, we both thought the other was going to send the order in. Cronin posted a the story about path, and despite my disagreement personally with that i had to follow along in public. We hoped maybe the bad guys would think we had something but wanted to wait...

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

We didn't, actually. We messed up and forgot to send in a night order. We were trying to keep it a secret that we automatically investigated all crime scenes and got clues from them.

I was wondering because I didn't get any PM last night and if you had visited I thought I would have.....

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Also, Blade was Watson and I was Holmes.

Nice job doing a Superman II there.

[Chief Rum]

GOOD

Sherlock Holmes-- St. cronin
Watson-- Blade
ntndeacon-- Inspector Lestrade
Raiders Army-- Chief of Inspectors
MrWednesday-- Night Watchman

THE TOWNFOLK

PROSTITUTES

Hoopsguy
Izulde
Barkeep49
SnDvls

URCHINS

Schmidty
Jonathon Ezarik

LONDONERS

Swaggs
Bulletsponge (converted to evil on Night Three)
Dodgerchick
Path12
AlanT
Fouts
BrianD
Tyrith

EVIL

Lathum-- Jack The Ripper
saldana-- Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde
DaddyTorgo-- Professor Moriarty
LoneStarGirl-- Fagin
dubb93-- American Werewolf

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Lathum

CR- Thanks for running the game, I can tell you put alot of work into it so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way.


I was really pissed off at everyone saying I messed up etc....

I just don't understand the mechanic in the game when there is a killing and 4 of us are in one sector. 3 of them run to Mr. Wed screams, hoops can identify all 4 people in the sector then Mr. Wed can identify the 3 people who responded. It makes it impossible for me to survive that.

Well, the 3 of us had been in a meeting and all 3 were special roles for good. It was actually just as bad for us as you with all the attention it drew. Your team just didnt make the same jump we did.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

CR- Thanks for running the game, I can tell you put alot of work into it so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way.


I was really pissed off at everyone saying I messed up etc....

I just don't understand the mechanic in the game when there is a killing and 4 of us are in one sector. 3 of them run to Mr. Wed screams, hoops can identify all 4 people in the sector then Mr. Wed can identify the 3 people who responded. It makes it impossible for me to survive that.

Is this the same mechanic that almost got Barkeep lynched?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Also, Blade was Watson and I was Holmes.

FWIW Path...that spot-on analysis earned you bullet's knife last night, and i was gunning for Blade before I was arrested last night (i figured I'd at least give CR the chance to write that showdown if I made it there before i was arrested).

and tonight i pretty much knew it was over. either today or tomorrow, and what's the possible value in surviving another day just to be lynched tomorrow.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Could you guys communicate? Also, could any of them kill me?

Edit--Could you bad guys communicate?

path12 and Tyrith both died in their homes. Yes, had you been targeted, you could have been killed, and being holed up in your room would not have saved you.

[Raiders Army]

So who were the freemasons? Or was that just a ruse?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

yeah. at that point i think i PMed dubb and i was like "path just f*cked us"

Yeah, I remember that post, too, and thinking, "heh heh bang on."

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Also, Blade was Watson and I was Holmes.

Nice switch there. I was firmly convinced it was the other way around.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Well, the 3 of us had been in a meeting and all 3 were special roles for good. It was actually just as bad for us as you with all the attention it drew. Your team just didnt make the same jump we did.

i don't really understand this post. MY point is that early in werewolf anything that sets you apart probably gets you killed so the fact that i was seperated from anyone else pretty much doomed me. Compound that with the fact people were saying I screwed up I was in a surly mood.

[st.cronin]

Blade and I had a lot of fun.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

CR- Thanks for running the game, I can tell you put alot of work into it so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way.


I was really pissed off at everyone saying I messed up etc....

I just don't understand the mechanic in the game when there is a killing and 4 of us are in one sector. 3 of them run to Mr. Wed screams, hoops can identify all 4 people in the sector then Mr. Wed can identify the 3 people who responded. It makes it impossible for me to survive that.

People had different chances to see people based on how long they stayed in a district. hoops was in Cavell all night, Mr Wednesday only part of it.

Just bad luck it went that way, although I also thought there were plenty of ways to spin that, too. Really, if you're in any district and you're not on a kill run, there is a pretty good chance you will be seen and you should just say so.

If you were on a kill that night, Lathum, you would have been much harder to see, but you were opnly in the first ohase of looking for prostitutes, unfortunately.

[Raiders Army]

I believe he was talking about ntndeacon getting scanned by holmes and watson. It was just dumb luck that it was three good guys talking together.

[Izulde]

I almost was going to try and get you lynched at one point, st. cronin. After you started saying people should vote to lynch me and knowing I was good, I instantly became suspicious of you.