Maximum Football??? - Page 48

Bee · 03-02-2006, 11:57 AM

Looks like they've quit updating the release info and I've visited the forums a couple times and it looks like they are deleting threads at a very fast rate....

digamma · 03-02-2006, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee

Looks like they've quit updating the release info and I've visited the forums a couple times and it looks like they are deleting threads at a very fast rate....

The most curious deletion was the Jennifer Winter thread specifically for complaints and questions about the release. Nice work by the media relations staff.

Bee · 03-02-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma

The most curious deletion was the Jennifer Winter thread specifically for complaints and questions about the release. Nice work by the media relations staff.

Yep, that one confused me. Also, I noticed when she posted that thread she no longer had the title "Media Relations" or whatever it was under her name.

albionmoonlight · 03-02-2006, 12:20 PM

RE: Release Info - 3/2/2006 5:49:46 PM

Erik Rutins
Administrator

Posts: 6890
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From: Vermont, USA
Status: online

I will be posting a brand new release info thread later today. We're having a conference at the moment to make a final decision on the release based on testing. Things continue to look good and I anticipate we will release tomorrow morning, to give it one more day of final testing, but I encourage you to wait for the final announcement on that later today. You all know the drill at this point - if something new and critical pops up, it will be delayed again. However, nothing like that has popped up so far, so we are keeping our fingers crossed and thinking the last build will be the new final gold master for release.

Locking this thread at this point, I'll post a new one later today.

Regards,

- Erik

_____________________________

Erik Rutins
Director of Product Development and Business Relations

Bee · 03-02-2006, 12:22 PM

I think Antmeister should have done a parody song of Annie's "tomorrow, tomorrow"

Passacaglia · 03-02-2006, 12:23 PM

At this point, why do they even bother posting updates? They're not saying anything significant anyway, and nobody really expects the game to be out on any given day.

aran · 03-02-2006, 12:56 PM

A thought just occured to me:

If this game wanted to be truly customizable and worth purchasing, Daivd should have made a simple scripting language (or used Python) to allow modders to fully customize rulesets. It'd allow you to do crazy shit; it'd allow almost any action in the game to affect the score, number of timeouts, or anything else (number of players on the field?). That would be real customizability and flexibility. What Daivd's doing is a complete and utter joke compared to that.

cartman · 03-02-2006, 01:13 PM

To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday"

Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away
Now it looks as though we're about to play
Oh, I can't wait for yesterday.

Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me,
Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3.
Oh, beta testing came suddenly.

Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say.
I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday.

Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to post away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Bonegavel · 03-02-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

THIS IS AN UNBELIEVABLE VIDEO AND I AM SURPRISED NOBODY MENTIONED IT YET!!!

Check this puppy out:
Broken Yards

And if it doesn't load, you can download the zipped version here:
Broken Yards zip file

OMG, I can't believe I missed this!!! I was too busy creating crappy photoshop art to notice this...

WELL DONE ANT!!

Bee · 03-02-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aran

A thought just occured to me:

If this game wanted to be truly customizable and worth purchasing, Daivd should have made a simple scripting language (or used Python) to allow modders to fully customize rulesets. It'd allow you to do crazy shit; it'd allow almost any action in the game to affect the score, number of timeouts, or anything else (number of players on the field?). That would be real customizability and flexibility. What Daivd's doing is a complete and utter joke compared to that.

Well, basic things like onside kicks, fake kicks and options "break" the AI, so I would guess anything that customizable would vaporize the AI.

rkmsuf · 03-02-2006, 01:18 PM

how hard is it to customize nothing?

Antmeister · 03-02-2006, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonegavel

...I was too busy creating crappy photoshop art to notice this...

Crappy Photoshop? You stuff is hilarious. It even made the video.

SplitPersonality1 · 03-02-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday"

Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away
Now it looks as though we're about to play
Oh, I can't wait for yesterday.

Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me,
Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3.
Oh, beta testing came suddenly.

Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say.
I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday.

Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to post away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Well done.

(although I would have gone with "I beleive in yesterday")

dervack · 03-02-2006, 01:52 PM

Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.

FrogMan · 03-02-2006, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dervack

Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.

I see no "dervack" in the members list anymore, you might have been banned...

Speaking of member list, anybody kind of find this amazingly high:

Quote:

There are a total of 18465 members
18393 members match your search criteria (excluding banned members)

Looking at our own FOFC, the total number isn't shown but there are 86 pages with +/- 25 members per page or about 2150 members...

FM

Bee · 03-02-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogMan

I see no "dervack" in the members list anymore, you might have been banned...

Speaking of member list, anybody kind of find this amazingly high:

Looking at our own FOFC, the total number isn't shown but there are 86 pages with +/- 25 members per page or about 2150 members...

FM

Quote:

Front Office Football Central Statistics
Threads: 42,129, Posts: 1,018,136, Members: 4,722

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from Matrix Forums

Forum Statistics
18465 Registered users have made 1019643 posts in 208 forums. There are currently 120798 topics.

Their forum includes members posting on all the various games, etc. I'm actually surprised it's not more than 18,000+, since Matrix Games has published quite a few games.

edit: What's interesting is we will probably pass them in number of posts in about 3 days (2 days if Jeeber stays signed on).

JeeberD · 03-02-2006, 02:00 PM

I wonder if that's the number of members for all of the entire Matrix boards. Still, that's a lot of damn users...

rkmsuf · 03-02-2006, 02:03 PM

Frank Brickowski is logged in over there.

wade moore · 03-02-2006, 02:04 PM

OMG.

Video Released.

I caught something in it, gotta try and get a screen capture to explain.

OMG.

Link: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1075989

FrogMan · 03-02-2006, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee

Their forum includes members posting on all the various games, etc. I'm actually surprised it's not more than 18,000+, since Matrix Games has published quite a few games.

you're right, I thought that I was still on the MF website...

Thanks for righting me

FM

dervack · 03-02-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

OMG.

Video Released.

I caught something in it, gotta try and get a screen capture to explain.

OMG.

Link: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1075989

Uh, a little help here. What did you catch?

SackAttack · 03-02-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday"

Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away
Now it looks as though we're about to play
Oh, I can't wait for yesterday.

Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me,
Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3.
Oh, beta testing came suddenly.

Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say.
I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday.

Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to post away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.

That's a testament to the Beatles, I guess; I heard the Billy Dean version of this song. When a semi-obscure country artist is covering your stuff, that says what kind of an impact you've had across the breadth of music.

wade moore · 03-02-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dervack

Uh, a little help here. What did you catch?

Nevermind.

I'm an idiot.

The CFL has 12 players on the field at a time.

st.cronin · 03-02-2006, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

Nevermind.

I'm an idiot.

The CFL has 12 players on the field at a time.

Wait, they actually got something RIGHT??? Stop the presses!!!!

gstelmack · 03-02-2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dervack

Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.

There was some note about you needing a month or two rest since you wouldn't stop changing your sig.

albionmoonlight · 03-02-2006, 02:22 PM

I know we have people going over the video right now like the Zapruder film--but I don't think that you will find anything. After the last video, I think that they went over this one with a fined toothed comb before releasing it to the public.

cthomer5000 · 03-02-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack

That's a testament to the Beatles, I guess; I heard the Billy Dean version of this song. When a semi-obscure country artist is covering your stuff, that says what kind of an impact you've had across the breadth of music.

I believe it is themost covered song of all time.

wade moore · 03-02-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I know we have people going over the video right now like the Zapruder film--but I don't think that you will find anything. After the last video, I think that they went over this one with a fined toothed comb before releasing it to the public.

FWIW, I wasn't looking for problems..

I just looked at the lineups and said "that sure seems like a lot of people on the field"...

And I was right, but it wasn't NFL rules

...

albionmoonlight · 03-02-2006, 02:27 PM

Of course, whether you should--as a matter of good PR--review the materials that you are putting on the web in order to generate interest in your product is an exercise that I will leave for the reader.

Personally, I think that it should be the rule and not the exception.

Bee · 03-02-2006, 02:32 PM

I can't watch the video from work...does the TE fall down at the beginning of every run play again?

JeeberD · 03-02-2006, 02:34 PM

Alas, there is no gameplay footage, Bee. It's just showing league setup screens...

cartman · 03-02-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee

I can't watch the video from work...does the TE fall down at the beginning of every run play again?

Nah, it just shows menu screens and formation screens. No in-game action in this one.

Bee · 03-02-2006, 02:41 PM

ahh...ok, thanks.

aran · 03-02-2006, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee

Well, basic things like onside kicks, fake kicks and options "break" the AI, so I would guess anything that customizable would vaporize the AI.

Of course if you allowed such heavy customizability of rules, you'd also encourage AI coders to work on custom AIs to complement the rules.

It'd be really hard, though. I definitely would NOT want to try to code a game that tried to do what i'm suggesting AND have 3d graphics.

Passacaglia · 03-02-2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplitPersonality1

Well done.

(although I would have gone with "I beleive in yesterday")

SplitP is back!!

aran · 03-02-2006, 03:16 PM

When he's scrolling through the roster of Toronto in the video, all of the Offensive Line have either 59 or 60 speed and te QBs have 70ish speed. They're fast sons o' bitches compared to the HBs who all have 80ish speed. The ratings in general also seem to be artificially bloated like madden's.

Training camp looks good, though. I like how simple it appears.

The offense appearantly only has 4 formations. Weird.

Marc Vaughan · 03-02-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

I wonder if that's the number of members for all of the entire Matrix boards. Still, that's a lot of damn users...

They do a good job managing the forums and to be honest I'm a tad jealous that they appear to be able to have someone monitor it full-time (well during office hours at least) ....

PS> The jungle that is the sigames.com forums currently have over 100,000 users - we police the jungle to the best of our ability, however there are lawless areas and users enter at their own risk

Airhog · 03-02-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

They do a good job managing the forums and to be honest I'm a tad jealous that they appear to be able to have someone monitor it full-time (well during office hours at least) ....

PS> The jungle that is the sigames.com forums currently have over 100,000 users - we police the jungle to the best of our ability, however there are lawless areas and users enter at their own risk

This thread is now complete

st.cronin · 03-02-2006, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhog

This thread is now complete

no it isn't

JeffR · 03-02-2006, 04:56 PM

I have to admit I like the look of the interface. Uncluttered, consistent, appears to be easy to navigate. Doesn't look like things like stat/ratings columns are sortable, though.

Desnudo · 03-02-2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

They do a good job managing the forums and to be honest I'm a tad jealous that they appear to be able to have someone monitor it full-time (well during office hours at least) ....

PS> The jungle that is the sigames.com forums currently have over 100,000 users - we police the jungle to the best of our ability, however there are lawless areas and users enter at their own risk

OTF is policed? That's like the red zone area that pizza delivery refuses to go to.

cartman · 03-02-2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhog

This thread is now complete

Gotta agree with st.cronin on this one.

However, it would have taken a big step towards completion if Marc had told us that "Maximum Football" was a name that they had copyrighted as a potential name when they couldn't use Championship Manager anymore.

albionmoonlight · 03-02-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR

I have to admit I like the look of the interface. Uncluttered, consistent, appears to be easy to navigate. Doesn't look like things like stat/ratings columns are sortable, though.

I agree. Like most everyone here, I hope that the game is good. Movies like this are nice to see in that regard.

st.cronin · 03-02-2006, 05:03 PM

This thread can't be complete. I haven't once mentioned the quarterback for my favorite football team, and I don't think we've seen a picture of Pumpy yet.

Desnudo · 03-02-2006, 05:07 PM

We are only two pages away from 50 too. Up over Heartbreak Hill people!

vex · 03-02-2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhog

This thread is now complete

Hater

st.cronin · 03-02-2006, 06:17 PM

So, the game comes out tomorrow?

wishbone · 03-02-2006, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

So, the game comes out tomorrow?

It only takes a day or two once the Gold Release Master Final build is complete. Thanks to the internet!

QuikSand · 03-02-2006, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishbone

Gold Release Master Final Build

This title seems inadequate. Can't we add a little bit more to it?

cartman · 03-02-2006, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

So, the game comes out tomorrow?

The game'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be bugs!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the hard drive,
And the defect list
'Til there's none!

When I'm stuck a play
That's grey,
And phony,
I hike it to my tight end
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

The game'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Third and negative 8 you say
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I'll release ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!

03-02-2006, 12:56 PM	#2357
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	A thought just occured to me: If this game wanted to be truly customizable and worth purchasing, Daivd should have made a simple scripting language (or used Python) to allow modders to fully customize rulesets. It'd allow you to do crazy shit; it'd allow almost any action in the game to affect the score, number of timeouts, or anything else (number of players on the field?). That would be real customizability and flexibility. What Daivd's doing is a complete and utter joke compared to that. Last edited by aran : 03-02-2006 at 12:57 PM.

03-02-2006, 01:13 PM	#2358
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	To the tune of the Beatles' "Yesterday" Yesterday, the game release seemed so far away Now it looks as though we're about to play Oh, I can't wait for yesterday. Suddenly, I'm not seeing InstallShield in front of me, Gained 5 on 2nd and 10, now it's 3rd and 3. Oh, beta testing came suddenly. Why the release won't go, I don't know, they couldn't say. I post something wrong, now I long for yesterday. Yesterday, football was such an easy game to play. Now I need a place to post away. Oh, I believe in yesterday. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-02-2006, 01:18 PM	#2361
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	how hard is it to customize nothing? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-02-2006, 02:00 PM	#2367
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I wonder if that's the number of members for all of the entire Matrix boards. Still, that's a lot of damn users... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-02-2006, 02:03 PM	#2368
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Frank Brickowski is logged in over there. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-02-2006, 11:57 AM	#2351
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Looks like they've quit updating the release info and I've visited the forums a couple times and it looks like they are deleting threads at a very fast rate....

03-02-2006, 12:22 PM	#2355
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I think Antmeister should have done a parody song of Annie's "tomorrow, tomorrow"

03-02-2006, 12:23 PM	#2356
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	At this point, why do they even bother posting updates? They're not saying anything significant anyway, and nobody really expects the game to be out on any given day.

03-02-2006, 01:52 PM	#2364
dervack College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2005	Hmm, I seem to have problems getting into Matrix Games' forums. Anyone else. I think I may have been banned.

03-02-2006, 02:22 PM	#2376
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I know we have people going over the video right now like the Zapruder film--but I don't think that you will find anything. After the last video, I think that they went over this one with a fined toothed comb before releasing it to the public.

03-02-2006, 02:27 PM	#2379
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Of course, whether you should--as a matter of good PR--review the materials that you are putting on the web in order to generate interest in your product is an exercise that I will leave for the reader. Personally, I think that it should be the rule and not the exception.

03-02-2006, 02:32 PM	#2380
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I can't watch the video from work...does the TE fall down at the beginning of every run play again?

03-02-2006, 02:34 PM	#2381
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Alas, there is no gameplay footage, Bee. It's just showing league setup screens... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-02-2006, 02:41 PM	#2383
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	ahh...ok, thanks.

03-02-2006, 03:16 PM	#2386
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	When he's scrolling through the roster of Toronto in the video, all of the Offensive Line have either 59 or 60 speed and te QBs have 70ish speed. They're fast sons o' bitches compared to the HBs who all have 80ish speed. The ratings in general also seem to be artificially bloated like madden's. Training camp looks good, though. I like how simple it appears. The offense appearantly only has 4 formations. Weird.

03-02-2006, 04:56 PM	#2390
JeffR High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada	I have to admit I like the look of the interface. Uncluttered, consistent, appears to be easy to navigate. Doesn't look like things like stat/ratings columns are sortable, though.

03-02-2006, 05:03 PM	#2394
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	This thread can't be complete. I haven't once mentioned the quarterback for my favorite football team, and I don't think we've seen a picture of Pumpy yet. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-02-2006, 05:07 PM	#2395
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	We are only two pages away from 50 too. Up over Heartbreak Hill people!

03-02-2006, 06:17 PM	#2397
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	So, the game comes out tomorrow? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

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