2010 NCAA Tournament (and NIT) Thread - Page 47

DaddyTorgo · 04-05-2010, 09:45 PM

howard has played like total crap these last couple games

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 09:45 PM

Yeah -- Howard could easily have about 8 fouls right now.

sterlingice · 04-05-2010, 09:45 PM

The silly thing is that I could probably name 5 things in the last two minutes that were worse fouls than what Howard did but that one was called.

SI

RainMaker · 04-05-2010, 09:46 PM

Howard completely crumbled in this Final Four. Can't make a shot and plays like a moron.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 09:47 PM

Such as Zoubek playing like a pulling offensive guard on about 30% of Duke's offensive sets...

CleBrownsfan · 04-05-2010, 09:47 PM

weak foul on Howard - imo

ColtCrazy · 04-05-2010, 09:47 PM

If Butler does lose, I hope I don't hear a bunch about "well, Howard got into foul trouble" Jukes has played much better in this game.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 09:48 PM

Am I the only one that is noticing a dramatic volume difference between the game and its commercials?

Groundhog · 04-05-2010, 09:49 PM

I'm surprised Butler has been able to get away with trapping on screens... I would've expected Duke to light them up with the open looks, but so far it's worked out OK, though Butler hasn't exactly been getting the turnovers off Duke that would make it worth the risk.

Noop · 04-05-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Am I the only one that is noticing a dramatic volume difference between the game and its commercials?

You're not alone my friend.

ColtCrazy · 04-05-2010, 09:53 PM

Not. A. Charge.

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 09:53 PM

wow, shitty call (the charge)

Easy Mac · 04-05-2010, 09:53 PM

I like how Stevens reactions are those of an upset 12 year old. And that was a charge on Hayward if they were a few feet farther out.

DaddyTorgo · 04-05-2010, 09:53 PM

well that call was for shit. shoulda been a 3pt play

Eaglesfan27 · 04-05-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

Not. A. Charge.

Yep. Some bad officiating tonight.

Groundhog · 04-05-2010, 09:54 PM

If Heyward is a guard, that's a blocking foul. Crazy stupid.

ColtCrazy · 04-05-2010, 09:55 PM

I hope that's not the turning point. I remember the Duke-Baylor game had a similar play. A charge on Baylor that looked like a block. It opened the door for Duke to take command.

Galaril · 04-05-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Yep. Some bad officiating tonight.

Wow, I did not expect the favoritism by the refs for Duke to start this early.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I'm surprised Butler has been able to get away with trapping on screens... I would've expected Duke to light them up with the open looks, but so far it's worked out OK, though Butler hasn't exactly been getting the turnovers off Duke that would make it worth the risk.

Their defenders are doing a great job of fighting their way through picks (w/ the help of the refs not seeming to care how they get through them, for the most part). Duke made a killing against WVU by using the pick and roll to Zoubek followed by him kicking it out to open perimeter guys. Butler isn't having any of that.

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 09:58 PM

Heyward needs to keep driving to the basket, they have no answer, and will just keep fouling him.

Easy Mac · 04-05-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Wow, I did not expect the favoritism by the refs for Duke to start this early.

You're an idiot

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:00 PM

Was Singler the bad guy in The Da Vinci Code?

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:01 PM

C'mon Butler! you can hang and win this game!

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:02 PM

Would love to see a quick one on Zoubek and get him out of there.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:02 PM

Surprised that Zoubek is back so soon.

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Surprised that Zoubek is back so soon.

agreed

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:03 PM

That was odd looking...

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:03 PM

damn, this is starting to get ugly.

ColtCrazy · 04-05-2010, 10:05 PM

I was enjoying this game. What happened?

Easy Mac · 04-05-2010, 10:05 PM

They got a break with the foul. Now they can bring Hayward and Mack back in without having to lose a lot of game time. Duke looked poised to make a run with them on the bench.

An aside, is it just me, or has duke shortened their bench this game. It seems like they had a larger rotation against West Virginia.

Galaril · 04-05-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

You're an idiot

And to pull one from JIMGA.

Fuck you asshole.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:07 PM

Does Howard have the best faux mustache since Adam Morrison?

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:07 PM

hard foul.

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Does Howard have the best faux mustache since Adam Morrison?

yes.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

They got a break with the foul. Now they can bring Hayward and Mack back in without having to lose a lot of game time. Duke looked poised to make a run with them on the bench.

An aside, is it just me, or has duke shortened their bench this game. It seems like they had a larger rotation against West Virginia.

To be fair, Duke had a pretty comfortable lead for a good part of the game. WVU chipped it down to six for a little while in the second half, but for the most part, it was 10ish (or more) for probably 25 minutes.

Easy Mac · 04-05-2010, 10:10 PM

Ok, Nored just butt ducked scheyer on screen with no call

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:11 PM

Butler's defense has been a semi let down this game, after so many games in the 50's this one is just a little bit more, but too much.

Noop · 04-05-2010, 10:11 PM

Zoubek with the dumb play.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Ok, Nored just butt ducked scheyer on screen with no call

Butler has gotten a lot of help from the refs on the screens. They just haven't called it all night and they are doing a good job of fighting through them, but usually you can't get away with being that physical on them.

Noop · 04-05-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Butler's defense has been a semi let down this game, after so many games in the 50's this one is just a little bit more, but too much.

I disagree but whatever.

Galaril · 04-05-2010, 10:14 PM

They should be a flagrant foul.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-05-2010, 10:14 PM

Wow. That was very ugly looking.

Swaggs · 04-05-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I disagree but whatever.

Same here. Duke has three pretty elite "go to" guys between Scheyer, Singler, and Smith. It is hard to keep more than one down.

Noop · 04-05-2010, 10:18 PM

I got to say I am unimpressed by these refs and very impressed by Butler's defense. In a tight game you always have to favor the defensive team because you shouldn't go cold on defense.

Duke has to put the nail in the coffin or else Butler will take this to OT or win in regulation.

k0ruptr · 04-05-2010, 10:19 PM

Butlers Defense has been great, I was just saying not as good as they have been recently, thats all.

Neuqua · 04-05-2010, 10:20 PM

Clark Kellogg is being extremely obnoxious tonight.

Easy Mac · 04-05-2010, 10:21 PM

As a duke fan, I just want this to be over, somehow. Us fat people can't handle the stress.

And regardless of the outcome, would it be poor form to celebrate/agonize so loudly that I wake the baby?

Mustang · 04-05-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Clark Kellogg is being extremely obnoxious tonight.

I think he wants Duke to win... just a guess.

BrianD · 04-05-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Clark Kellogg is being extremely obnoxious tonight.

Tonight?

Easy Mac · 04-05-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Wow, I did not expect the favoritism by the refs for Duke to start this early.

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Clark Kellogg is being extremely obnoxious tonight.

Could you imagine Gus Johnson calling this game?

04-05-2010, 09:45 PM	#2301
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04-05-2010, 09:45 PM	#2302
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Yeah -- Howard could easily have about 8 fouls right now. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-05-2010, 09:45 PM	#2303
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04-05-2010, 09:47 PM	#2305
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Such as Zoubek playing like a pulling offensive guard on about 30% of Duke's offensive sets... __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-05-2010, 09:47 PM	#2306
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04-05-2010, 09:46 PM	#2304
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04-05-2010, 09:47 PM	#2307
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	If Butler does lose, I hope I don't hear a bunch about "well, Howard got into foul trouble" Jukes has played much better in this game. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

04-05-2010, 09:48 PM	#2308
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04-05-2010, 09:49 PM	#2309
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I'm surprised Butler has been able to get away with trapping on screens... I would've expected Duke to light them up with the open looks, but so far it's worked out OK, though Butler hasn't exactly been getting the turnovers off Duke that would make it worth the risk. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-05-2010, 09:53 PM	#2311
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04-05-2010, 09:53 PM	#2312
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04-05-2010, 09:53 PM	#2313
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I like how Stevens reactions are those of an upset 12 year old. And that was a charge on Hayward if they were a few feet farther out.

04-05-2010, 09:53 PM	#2314
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04-05-2010, 09:54 PM	#2316
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04-05-2010, 09:55 PM	#2317
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I hope that's not the turning point. I remember the Duke-Baylor game had a similar play. A charge on Baylor that looked like a block. It opened the door for Duke to take command. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

04-05-2010, 09:58 PM	#2320
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04-05-2010, 10:00 PM	#2322
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04-05-2010, 10:01 PM	#2323
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04-05-2010, 10:02 PM	#2324
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04-05-2010, 10:02 PM	#2325
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Surprised that Zoubek is back so soon. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-05-2010, 10:03 PM	#2327
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04-05-2010, 10:03 PM	#2328
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04-05-2010, 10:05 PM	#2329
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04-05-2010, 10:05 PM	#2330
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	They got a break with the foul. Now they can bring Hayward and Mack back in without having to lose a lot of game time. Duke looked poised to make a run with them on the bench. An aside, is it just me, or has duke shortened their bench this game. It seems like they had a larger rotation against West Virginia. Last edited by Easy Mac : 04-05-2010 at 10:06 PM.

04-05-2010, 10:07 PM	#2332
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04-05-2010, 10:07 PM	#2333
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	hard foul. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

04-05-2010, 10:10 PM	#2336
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Ok, Nored just butt ducked scheyer on screen with no call

04-05-2010, 10:11 PM	#2337
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Butler's defense has been a semi let down this game, after so many games in the 50's this one is just a little bit more, but too much. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

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04-05-2010, 10:14 PM	#2341
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04-05-2010, 10:18 PM	#2344
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I got to say I am unimpressed by these refs and very impressed by Butler's defense. In a tight game you always have to favor the defensive team because you shouldn't go cold on defense. Duke has to put the nail in the coffin or else Butler will take this to OT or win in regulation. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-05-2010, 10:19 PM	#2345
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04-05-2010, 10:21 PM	#2347
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	As a duke fan, I just want this to be over, somehow. Us fat people can't handle the stress. And regardless of the outcome, would it be poor form to celebrate/agonize so loudly that I wake the baby?