Werewolf XXIII - Lost - Game Over! Survivors win! - Page 47

Raiders Army · 02-18-2006, 05:36 AM

Man, I should've strung saldana out to get the info I got from other people. I didn't get his thoughts on the players and I didn't get his thoughts on whom I should talk to on day 6. I could've sworn I asked him the latter, but he didn't reply.

I would look out for packer and desmond right now. Later this morning I'll look at their voting patterns, but those guys are high are my radar right now.

SnDvls · 02-18-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i told you killing me would cost you....

now back to the trolls thread to post the role of RA...

I'm glad I had you pegged...good job survivors keep at 'em

Blade6119 · 02-18-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

kept wondering why Blade kept putting you ahead of me when decided who was more trustworthy.

Celeval · 02-18-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I would look out for packer and desmond right now. Later this morning I'll look at their voting patterns, but those guys are high are my radar right now.

I still feel good around Packer, after we got "Walt". I still think that if Pack was an other, he as Michael would have been vouched for by king.

pennywisesb · 02-18-2006, 11:18 AM

Good job everyone who switched their votes to Saldana. Saldana, nicely played, you definately had me worried most of last night!

pennywisesb · 02-18-2006, 11:19 AM

Sorry Schmidty, now I realize why it would have been a "huge mistake" to lynch you. I guess my gut was leading me astray on you.

Celeval · 02-18-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

I still feel good around Packer, after we got "Walt". I still think that if Pack was an other, he as Michael would have been vouched for by king.

Mostly Trusted:
Raiders Army - Sayid
PackerFanatic - presumed Michael
Celeval - only mostly trusted, I don't know about this guy.

spleen - one of the group of "simple survivors", also vacant
KWhit - one of the group of "simple survivors"
pennywise - one of the group of "simple survivors"

Partly Trusted:
Desmond - tiebreaker, presumed survivor
Swaggs - vouched for strongly by Schmidty (Locke)
bearcat - claiming named role

Unsure:
tanglewood/path - I've got really nothing here.

pennywisesb · 02-18-2006, 11:24 AM

Ok, here's my revised trust list:
Trusted: KWit, Spleen, Packerfanatic, Raiders Army, Pennywisesb
Mostly trusted: Swaggs (Schmidty had faith in him), Bearcat
Not trusted/no read: Celeval, Path12

It seems as though Celeval keeps coming up as someone who has some suspicion on him. I wonder if thats just coincidence?

pennywisesb · 02-18-2006, 11:24 AM

*add Desmond to mostly trusted as well, sorry dude, I keep forgetting you

Celeval · 02-18-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

It seems as though Celeval keeps coming up as someone who has some suspicion on him. I wonder if thats just coincidence?

It is.

I referenced the point earlier about Alan. If you want a straight-up answer... Alan pushed Sndvls hard because he thought Sndvls was bluffing. The reason he did, was because he thought I was the Duke. If I was an Other, he'd have damn well known that I wasn't the Duke, and Sawyer wouldn't have knocked Alan out to begin with.

PackerFanatic · 02-18-2006, 11:51 AM

I am Michael, RA. Do not worry about me.

saldana · 02-18-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Good job everyone who switched their votes to Saldana. Saldana, nicely played, you definately had me worried most of last night!

thanks, see you all on treasure island.

saldana · 02-18-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Man, I should've strung saldana out to get the info I got from other people. I didn't get his thoughts on the players and I didn't get his thoughts on whom I should talk to on day 6. I could've sworn I asked him the latter, but he didn't reply.

what makes you think i would have given you anything

and i did reply, you were probably just drunk again and didnt read it like the other pm about how much i knew about the game. i think that might have to make the WW HOF..."RA called out Saldana because he was hammered and mis-read a PM, but ended up being right anyway and getting the brutal wolf killed"

Raiders Army · 02-18-2006, 03:24 PM

It was because you were so...terse...that I suspected you as well. Blade, hoops, and spleen were pretty verbose and opinionated, but you were not. I attributed some of that to your connection, but not much.

hoopsguy · 02-18-2006, 04:53 PM

Blade and I were chatty? No way!

pennywisesb · 02-18-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i think that might have to make the WW HOF..."RA called out Saldana because he was hammered and mis-read a PM, but ended up being right anyway and getting the brutal wolf killed"

Golden!

Blade6119 · 02-18-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Blade and I were chatty? No way!

He must still be drunk to think you and i were chatty...were WAY too quiet

path12 · 02-18-2006, 06:46 PM

Just got caught up. Good job RA, sorry I made you rush at then end there but I had to go and couldn't get straight who to switch to.

For those of you who have me on the unsure list, I have no role to dangle in front of you, I am merely a survivor (I'll skip the 'simple' code). You might notice though that I was trying to get clarification from RA and was ready and willing (hell, did) change my vote until we got our wires crossed.

Now, let's find that last other (there should be only one barring a conversion, right?).

Desmond · 02-18-2006, 06:49 PM

Are we pretty much in agreement that the bolding has meant nothing? That still intrigues me. Sorry to see ya go Schmidty

How many others, wolves, bad guys etc are there in a usual game?

path12 · 02-18-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond

Are we pretty much in agreement that the bolding has meant nothing? That still intrigues me. Sorry to see ya go Schmidty

How many others, wolves, bad guys etc are there in a usual game?

Didn't the bolding match up with some of Hurley's lottery numbers? I thought that was the only reason.

path12 · 02-18-2006, 09:43 PM

Been going back and looking over voting records to update my trust list:

100% trust:
path12 -- firsthand knowledge, votes: none, none, Sun, Saldana, Bearcat (likely switch to Sal if hadn't had mixup with Raiders). (1 other vote)

Raiders -- believe Sayid reveal. votes: King, mckerney, Sun, Packers, Saldana. (2 others)

Good trust:
KWhit -- simple survivor. Votes: RPI, Raiders, Sun, King, Saldana. (2 others)

Pennywisesb -- simple survivor. Votes: King, Sesnudo, Sun, King, Saldana (3 others)

Swaggs -- based on votes, Schmidty trust. Votes: Blade, Alan, Sun, Saldana, Saldana (3 others)

Leaning good:
Packer -- Michael reveal. Votes: none, none, Sun, King, Bearcat (1 other)

Bearcat -- based on votes. Votes: MrW, Blade, Sun, King, Saldana (2 others)

Unknown:
Spleen -- simple survivor. Votes: MrW, Raiders, Sun, none, none (0 others)

Desmond -- tiebreaker? Votes: MrW, mckerney, Sun, King, Bearcat (1 other)

Celeval -- no read at all. Votes: Mckerney, Desnudo, Sun, King (last vote), Bearcat (1 other)

I'm wondering if there was a conversion and if so I believe that we need to take a look at Desmond tomorrow.

Celeval · 02-18-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Celeval -- no read at all.

I'm trying to figure out if this as a recurring theme means I'm playing well, or poorly.

KWhit · 02-18-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

I'm trying to figure out if this as a recurring theme means I'm playing well, or poorly.

Depends. If you're an Other, you're doing okay. If you're a survivor, not so much.

path12 · 02-19-2006, 03:02 PM

Man, quiet around here.

Raiders Army · 02-19-2006, 05:40 PM

I'm just waiting to see if I survive the night. I doubt it, but I'm hoping.

Barkeep49 · 02-19-2006, 08:25 PM

Please excuse this commerical interruption. I know most of you just haven't spent enough time on an island and so you should mosey on over to WW 23: Treasure hunt where you can strike it rich rather than worry about the paranormal. It won't be starting really until after Ardent's game ends so you don't have to have any worries about playing two games at once. I hope to see you there.

KWhit · 02-19-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Man, quiet around here.

True dat.

Blade6119 · 02-19-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'm just waiting to see if I survive the night. I doubt it, but I'm hoping.

As an observer id say you should be quite safe...under the assumption you are telling the truth about your role, which i cannot confirm or deny, i would be far more fearful for spleen or whoever you picked for tomorrow...your list of confidants is reading like the obituary. Your like the stroke of death to a player

Again, under the assumption you are telling the truth. I cannot confirm or deny this role reveal

Celeval · 02-19-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

As an observer id say you should be quite safe

That's the thing about you people. You think you're "safe".

Raiders Army · 02-20-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

your list of confidants is reading like the obituary. Your like the stroke of death to a player

You're right. Here's the list: Blade, hoops, spleen, [deleted], saldana.

3 out of the 5 are dead, with one who quit. Do I know how to pick em?

Celeval · 02-20-2006, 09:19 AM

*tumbleweed*

Raiders Army · 02-20-2006, 09:45 AM

It's a freakin long night...

path12 · 02-20-2006, 09:59 AM

The suspense. She kills me.

Poli · 02-20-2006, 10:50 AM

The night goes on forever. No one talks and the only sounds you hear are from the ocean.

The next morning you find PackerFanatic dead on the beach, another victim of a snapped neck.

End Night 5. Begin Day 5.

saldana · 02-20-2006, 10:57 AM

woot!

Celeval · 02-20-2006, 10:59 AM

Hm. Something of a surprise, considering he was calling out no special role.

It also confirms Packer as a good guy, which is a slight improvement over where we were.

Assuming no turncoat, the only two I don't have any sort of a positive read on are bearcat and Path. Bearcat stepped up with a partial reveal last night, but I'm unsure about whether that's all the way there or not.

With that in mind..

Vote Path

path12 · 02-20-2006, 11:12 AM

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised about Packer also. As I wrote above (#2321), my list comes down to two people, Celeval and Desmond. I'm leaning against Spleens role being bad just because I've gotta think we're down to just one other (again, barring a conversion).

I don't know which of the two is most likely. Celeval has played his cards very close, but I just get a better gut feel from him.

Desmond on the other hand. He was the tiebreaker on night 2(?), but does that automatically mean he's good? He's voted for just one known other (king) but that was one of the later votes I believe; and has also been pretty quiet. Does he strike anyone else as suspicious or is it just me?

This is a very changeable vote, but until I can be convinced otherwise:

VOTE DESMOND

Celeval · 02-20-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

This is a very changeable vote, but until I can be convinced otherwise:

It's worth noting that this applies to mine as well.

path12 · 02-20-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

It's worth noting that this applies to mine as well.

I'd appreciate that!

PackerFanatic · 02-20-2006, 11:46 AM

Bummer...I kinda saw it coming though.

Good luck everyone!

KWhit · 02-20-2006, 11:52 AM

I don't think Desmond is an Other. I'd be surprised if the tiebreaker was a bad guy.

pennywisesb · 02-20-2006, 11:54 AM

Packer, sorry to see you go, can't say I thought you'd be the one to go down. Ok, from my list that I gave earlier, my two least trusted players right now are Path12 and Celeval. One of those two will be getting my vote. I'm going to wait to vote though until later to see if any new evidence arises.

Let me guess RA, you spoke with Packer the night before Saldana?

path12 · 02-20-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

BTW, just to explain why Saldana:

1) Voted Alan day 1 with Celeval when Alan not really in danger yet, looks like a good cover your ass vote.
2) Voted mckerney
3) Quieter than I remember from past games
4) Sun doesn't trust him and Sun is my only confirmed survivor except for me.
5) He's always under suspicion!

Not to get too worked up about defending myself, but I will just point this post out to show that I was one of the first on Saldana; and was working like mad with Raiders to switch that vote before I had to run. Like I mentioned, I have no role reveal to fall back on, and since I came in late that's really all I have to offer.

Personally, I think I've been pretty clearly working with the survivors.

KWhit · 02-20-2006, 12:28 PM

I think I'll be voting for Celeval or Path today. I want to check out a few things, but until I do, I want to get a vote out on the table:

VOTE PATH12

Swaggs · 02-20-2006, 12:39 PM

Desmond is pretty far down the list of suspects for me.

Right now, I am leaning towards Celeval, and then Path.

I think we win if we pick the right person today, so if either of you have any good information, now could be the right time.

path12 · 02-20-2006, 12:59 PM

It seems Desmond isn't raising flags for anybody else, so:

UNVOTE DESMOND
VOTE CELEVAL

My other likely suspect, and obvious self-preservation.

path12 · 02-20-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think we win if we pick the right person today, so if either of you have any good information, now could be the right time.

Wish I could help. My above post is all the defense I have.

Celeval · 02-20-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think we win if we pick the right person today, so if either of you have any good information, now could be the right time.

Fair enough.

People who know the show may have figured this out already based on a handful of hints I've dropped, but I am Ana Lucia Cortez. I am not a simple survivor, and do have a role. However, according to AE - it's a role not used in previous WW games, and given the function of it, I'm not going to come right out and say it; people who follow the show may be able to figure out part of it.

Raiders, if you haven't talked to anyone yet today and want to open communications, I'll be glad to tell you.

path12 · 02-20-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Wish I could help. My above post is all the defense I have.

I meant my above post #2343. I'll try to answer any questions you might have.

Swaggs · 02-20-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Fair enough.

People who know the show may have figured this out already based on a handful of hints I've dropped, but I am Ana Lucia Cortez. I am not a simple survivor, and do have a role. However, according to AE - it's a role not used in previous WW games, and given the function of it, I'm not going to come right out and say it; people who follow the show may be able to figure out part of it.

Raiders, if you haven't talked to anyone yet today and want to open communications, I'll be glad to tell you.

Is it something you have used this game?

02-18-2006, 11:18 AM	#2305
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Good job everyone who switched their votes to Saldana. Saldana, nicely played, you definately had me worried most of last night! __________________ Myspace Profile

02-18-2006, 11:19 AM	#2306
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Sorry Schmidty, now I realize why it would have been a "huge mistake" to lynch you. I guess my gut was leading me astray on you. __________________ Myspace Profile

02-18-2006, 11:24 AM	#2308
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Ok, here's my revised trust list: Trusted: KWit, Spleen, Packerfanatic, Raiders Army, Pennywisesb Mostly trusted: Swaggs (Schmidty had faith in him), Bearcat Not trusted/no read: Celeval, Path12 It seems as though Celeval keeps coming up as someone who has some suspicion on him. I wonder if thats just coincidence? __________________ Myspace Profile

02-18-2006, 11:24 AM	#2309
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	*add Desmond to mostly trusted as well, sorry dude, I keep forgetting you __________________ Myspace Profile

02-18-2006, 11:51 AM	#2311
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I am Michael, RA. Do not worry about me. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

02-18-2006, 05:36 AM	#2301
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Man, I should've strung saldana out to get the info I got from other people. I didn't get his thoughts on the players and I didn't get his thoughts on whom I should talk to on day 6. I could've sworn I asked him the latter, but he didn't reply. I would look out for packer and desmond right now. Later this morning I'll look at their voting patterns, but those guys are high are my radar right now.

02-18-2006, 03:24 PM	#2314
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	It was because you were so...terse...that I suspected you as well. Blade, hoops, and spleen were pretty verbose and opinionated, but you were not. I attributed some of that to your connection, but not much.

02-18-2006, 04:53 PM	#2315
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Blade and I were chatty? No way!

02-18-2006, 06:46 PM	#2318
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Just got caught up. Good job RA, sorry I made you rush at then end there but I had to go and couldn't get straight who to switch to. For those of you who have me on the unsure list, I have no role to dangle in front of you, I am merely a survivor (I'll skip the 'simple' code). You might notice though that I was trying to get clarification from RA and was ready and willing (hell, did) change my vote until we got our wires crossed. Now, let's find that last other (there should be only one barring a conversion, right?). __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-18-2006, 06:49 PM	#2319
Desmond Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Hatch	Are we pretty much in agreement that the bolding has meant nothing? That still intrigues me. Sorry to see ya go Schmidty How many others, wolves, bad guys etc are there in a usual game?

02-18-2006, 09:43 PM	#2321
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Been going back and looking over voting records to update my trust list: 100% trust: path12 -- firsthand knowledge, votes: none, none, Sun, Saldana, Bearcat (likely switch to Sal if hadn't had mixup with Raiders). (1 other vote) Raiders -- believe Sayid reveal. votes: King, mckerney, Sun, Packers, Saldana. (2 others) Good trust: KWhit -- simple survivor. Votes: RPI, Raiders, Sun, King, Saldana. (2 others) Pennywisesb -- simple survivor. Votes: King, Sesnudo, Sun, King, Saldana (3 others) Swaggs -- based on votes, Schmidty trust. Votes: Blade, Alan, Sun, Saldana, Saldana (3 others) Leaning good: Packer -- Michael reveal. Votes: none, none, Sun, King, Bearcat (1 other) Bearcat -- based on votes. Votes: MrW, Blade, Sun, King, Saldana (2 others) Unknown: Spleen -- simple survivor. Votes: MrW, Raiders, Sun, none, none (0 others) Desmond -- tiebreaker? Votes: MrW, mckerney, Sun, King, Bearcat (1 other) Celeval -- no read at all. Votes: Mckerney, Desnudo, Sun, King (last vote), Bearcat (1 other) I'm wondering if there was a conversion and if so I believe that we need to take a look at Desmond tomorrow. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-19-2006, 03:02 PM	#2324
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Man, quiet around here. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-19-2006, 05:40 PM	#2325
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm just waiting to see if I survive the night. I doubt it, but I'm hoping.

02-19-2006, 08:25 PM	#2326
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Please excuse this commerical interruption. I know most of you just haven't spent enough time on an island and so you should mosey on over to WW 23: Treasure hunt where you can strike it rich rather than worry about the paranormal. It won't be starting really until after Ardent's game ends so you don't have to have any worries about playing two games at once. I hope to see you there.

02-20-2006, 09:19 AM	#2331
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	tumbleweed

02-20-2006, 09:45 AM	#2332
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	It's a freakin long night...

02-20-2006, 09:59 AM	#2333
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	The suspense. She kills me. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-20-2006, 10:50 AM	#2334
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	The night goes on forever. No one talks and the only sounds you hear are from the ocean. The next morning you find PackerFanatic dead on the beach, another victim of a snapped neck. End Night 5. Begin Day 5. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-20-2006, 10:57 AM	#2335
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	woot!

02-20-2006, 10:59 AM	#2336
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Hm. Something of a surprise, considering he was calling out no special role. It also confirms Packer as a good guy, which is a slight improvement over where we were. Assuming no turncoat, the only two I don't have any sort of a positive read on are bearcat and Path. Bearcat stepped up with a partial reveal last night, but I'm unsure about whether that's all the way there or not. With that in mind.. Vote Path

02-20-2006, 11:12 AM	#2337
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Yeah, I'm a bit surprised about Packer also. As I wrote above (#2321), my list comes down to two people, Celeval and Desmond. I'm leaning against Spleens role being bad just because I've gotta think we're down to just one other (again, barring a conversion). I don't know which of the two is most likely. Celeval has played his cards very close, but I just get a better gut feel from him. Desmond on the other hand. He was the tiebreaker on night 2(?), but does that automatically mean he's good? He's voted for just one known other (king) but that was one of the later votes I believe; and has also been pretty quiet. Does he strike anyone else as suspicious or is it just me? This is a very changeable vote, but until I can be convinced otherwise: VOTE DESMOND __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-20-2006, 11:46 AM	#2340
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Bummer...I kinda saw it coming though. Good luck everyone! __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

02-20-2006, 11:52 AM	#2341
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I don't think Desmond is an Other. I'd be surprised if the tiebreaker was a bad guy.

02-20-2006, 11:54 AM	#2342
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Packer, sorry to see you go, can't say I thought you'd be the one to go down. Ok, from my list that I gave earlier, my two least trusted players right now are Path12 and Celeval. One of those two will be getting my vote. I'm going to wait to vote though until later to see if any new evidence arises. Let me guess RA, you spoke with Packer the night before Saldana? __________________ Myspace Profile

02-20-2006, 12:28 PM	#2344
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I think I'll be voting for Celeval or Path today. I want to check out a few things, but until I do, I want to get a vote out on the table: VOTE PATH12

02-20-2006, 12:39 PM	#2345
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Desmond is pretty far down the list of suspects for me. Right now, I am leaning towards Celeval, and then Path. I think we win if we pick the right person today, so if either of you have any good information, now could be the right time. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-20-2006, 12:59 PM	#2346
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	It seems Desmond isn't raising flags for anybody else, so: UNVOTE DESMOND VOTE CELEVAL My other likely suspect, and obvious self-preservation. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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