07-30-2008, 09:22 AM | #2301 | |
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Clearly I don't know what the hell is going on in this game. I KNOW i'm good, i'm pretty sure you are good by being bodyguarded. We are all pretty sure mccollins was a wolf like 3 days ago so I'm sure he's a wolf now. There has to be a 3-1 or 2-1 split. It's the only explanation to me right now. As I just said to heinz. If you want to ignore my scan (then why scan me last night?) then look at my actions that made a difference. Yup, I fucked up my read yesterday but I did make the deciding vote on Mrs S (why do that if I was a wolf?) and vetoed the first BG bill which I still maintain as a wolf I wouldn't have done. |
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07-30-2008, 09:23 AM | #2305 |
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07-30-2008, 09:27 AM | #2311 |
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I can't really do anything other than restate what has happened. I have no role. I think it would be helpful for us for the witness and doctor to both reveal now.
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07-30-2008, 09:28 AM | #2312 |
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Also, if I was a wolf why would I have put myself out there when I was going ot be the Dem nominee for Prez and would have likely won since I was more popular than either heinz or tyrith AND the most popular dem?
I wouldn't have, I would have stayed the fuck quiet but I thought I had a good read on what was going on so I came out and said it. |
07-30-2008, 09:28 AM | #2313 |
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How many districts do the wolves need to win the game again?
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07-30-2008, 09:28 AM | #2314 |
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I guess they're busy PMing each other trying to figure out what to do.
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07-30-2008, 09:33 AM | #2316 |
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Vote Censure Chubby
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07-30-2008, 09:33 AM | #2317 | |
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No, not really. My scan options, in my mind, were you, Chubby and Lathum. Lathum I ranked 3rd on there, and was likely really only on there due to long-ago actions. Really, going into last night, I think that I, like most people who censured PB had a pretty good feeling that the last two wolves were you and Chubby. Surely, you were on *many* a radar yesterday. Heck, people were going to lynch you just as a sure-bet alternative to dealing with the Seer situation. So my scanning you as a wolf wouldn't have told me nearly the amount of new information as my Scanning Chubby as one would have. But just because Chubby came back clean didn't absolve him in my mind, after all, half of the remaining wolves out there would come back clean |
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07-30-2008, 09:36 AM | #2318 |
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Good, I'm glad you didn't have to make me wait around for the counter (true) reveal. Given we know now you aren't the doctor, I'm definitely ok with lynching you. Even if I'm wrong, then it's a given that Collins is a wolf. So that means Collins would be paired with Pass - He's a villager. He handed us Mrs. S by crossing the aisle in that vote when he didn't need to. He has two supremely minor ticks towards wolf, but compared to that fact and the fact he's played a completely open-book villager game, I'd pay him off even if I was wrong Me - Well, he's not, we all know that. But frankly, I figure even if somehow you guys still thought I was a wolf, you'd likely pay me off anyway. illini - In which case I'm not worried about a wolf end game before tomorrow's day. KWhit - Again, I'll pay him off too. Tyrith - I've already gone over how a Tyrith/Collins final pairing is unlikely, as the game would be over by now. |
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Vote Chubby for Censure
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07-30-2008, 09:38 AM | #2320 |
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07-30-2008, 09:39 AM | #2321 |
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I think he is, because the only way the two of them stand a snowballs chance in hell is if we somehow lynch Collins, the Brutal, he takes me out and Chubby night kills. Even then though I don't think they can win as the doc could block a night kill of you (KWhit) and Tyrith can't be night killed. Not sure on the timing of when illini would get his seat back though and how that all would work. |
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Look, after yesterday, if we the village can't win this on their own I don't know what to tell ya. If Chubby's right and it's me and illinifan then I'd obviously want you to vote for illinifan. If most everyone else is right and it's me and Chubby then I'd want you to vote for Chubby so I can make it to the end. I already tried to see if we could do nightfall so we could get this over with, but no such luck. |
07-30-2008, 09:43 AM | #2323 |
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Good call. He was so obvious yesterday.
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07-30-2008, 09:45 AM | #2324 |
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What if Chubby is clean? And there really was a 3-1 split. If we lynch Chubby, that gives collins probably 7 districts. Pass or Tyrith is the cunning, and it's game over.
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It sounds like there's a lot of debate going around -- you admit as much in your post. Why do you want nightfall? Also, I still don't know who you're thinking is most likely to be a wolf. |
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I'll answer 1. Good question! Methinks you won't be doing that next time you're a wolf. But for now, I'll go on the basis that one of you and collins *had* to vote Mrs. S in that case. If you stacked up, it'd look awfully bad for later vote analysis, and that was far and away our most important vote to date (and overall really). My guess is the 3 of you (you two and PB) decided to play it passive and go 2 for her and one for Ty, figuring Mrs.S isn't active anyhow, so if you lose her, oh well. The curried favor later on would almost be more valuable for the 2 of you who voted for her. Plus Collins was the brutal at that point, so if he caught heat at least he was taking someone down with him 2. You didn't have much choice, given the talk of that night. If you didn't veto it, you're as good as lynched in the following days given the stances put forth by people talking. 3. Did you even have a chance? I think you made the wrong call, you probably *should* have hid, and I'd bet you're likely wishing you did, since you failed in your attempt to prove my reveal as false. I think you thought you could win that show-down and had you guys been successful there, this game would likely be over. |
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07-30-2008, 09:50 AM | #2328 | |
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As I've said before, if it's Pass as collins' partner, then I'll pay him off. He handed us Mrs. S, his vote basically said "Ok villager Dems, we're ok with you voting off a Republican today". He wouldn't do that and be partnered with her. Additionally, he's been almost clear-cut villager to this point. The only ticks against him, IMO, is the early strength of our 1st bill which was too strong (but that was the 1st day, no one knew what we know now) and that he was a liasion with Ches, so maybe somehow he picked up on him being the BG and hence his death. But even still, those are pretty out there and minor when compared. As I've said, I'm ok with just paying off a combo of Collins-Pass at this point. As far as Tyrith, the game would be over by now if it was Collins and Tyrith. They would've night-killed Pass for 9 districts guaranteed. Those two are too smart to miss that rather obvious play if they were the wolves. |
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If Pass is a wolf he deserves to win. I would have to be the cunning, meaning it'd have to be me and mccollins or me and illini, and really, do my actions reconcile to this?
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Well, I've voted for Chubby like everyone else should. |
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VOTE LYNCH CHUBBY
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Yesterday and day have actually a pretty fun couple of days in WW, IMO.
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There's been zero talk in the Democrat thread this morning (imagine that!), so I'll just do this out here:
Vote KWhit Speaker of the House Nominate / Support / Confirm / Endorse KWhit for Dem. Leader & Liaison |
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VOTE JEHEINZ72 SPEAKER
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Thanks, mcc. Do me a solid and nightkill someone other than me, too please? You don't want to cause the complete end tothe Democratic Party, do you? |
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KWhit, you're amusing the heck out of me today.
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VOTE JEHEINZ72 SPEAKER
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Do we even need leaders/liasions?
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So you were just thinking that we should vote Chubby and vote nightfall when you were suggesting it? |
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Agreed. For the most part. I'm pretty sure if my boss happens to check my outbound call log (or lack thereof) she wouldn't be of the same frame of mind. |
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