06-23-2006, 05:36 PM | #2301 | |
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Hypothetically, of course? The mummy is more dangerous. -Anxiety
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I have an idea about this entire scenario, but I'm not gonna talk about it today. I think Lathum sometime unless he provides an explanation as to why his role is allowed to break the rules. That is all I have to say about it.
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06-23-2006, 05:36 PM | #2303 | |
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06-23-2006, 05:36 PM | #2304 |
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At least my summoning has brought out more information for the egyptians. There appears to be some people working together.
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06-23-2006, 05:37 PM | #2305 |
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i think you should hang the idiot who said 10 pages ago that this would be a slow day
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06-23-2006, 05:37 PM | #2306 |
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Nothing like driving home to find the apple cart upturned. I have much contemplating to do.
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06-23-2006, 05:37 PM | #2307 |
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[ooc]yet again WW is totally keeping me from getting anything done while at work. do i seem sad?[/ooc]
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06-23-2006, 05:38 PM | #2308 | |
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I;m telling you ALanT is the way to go. Maybe once you see fouts is the avatar you will believe me. |
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06-23-2006, 05:39 PM | #2309 | |
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Votes as of Post #2305:
Fouts - Qwikshot (1887), SnDvls (1893), Chubby (1928), Schmidty (1937), Kingfc (1956), Dubb (2213) Alan T - Lathum (1912), Fouts (2247) Dubb - Vince (2244) Lathum - Saldana (2267), Tyrith (2297) Not voted - Barkeep, Path, Anxiety, Alan T, Tanglewood A couple of other thoughts: 1.) Tanglewood is going to have heart failure when he sees the amount of posts to read 2.) I was pretty sure it was not going to be a slow day I'm out until after the deadline, will post results sometime after midnight (CST). Good luck. |
06-23-2006, 05:40 PM | #2312 | |
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06-23-2006, 05:40 PM | #2313 |
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I think Fouts is pretty damn sure bad. The way he's picking people to suspect seems pretty damn random, like it was designed to make us paranoid, especially because he has nothing to lose. It seems way too over the top for someone theoretically trying to "help".
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06-23-2006, 05:40 PM | #2314 | |
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you say this with certainty, but there is no way for you to be certain. if blade made at least one scan, it had to be bullet, or else how did he nail him yesterday, that means he couldnt have scanned alan? |
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They very well just might be......Nice catch, even if you are stinky and wrapped in bandages.
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06-23-2006, 05:42 PM | #2316 |
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Did we get an answer as to why Lathum would wait until after the scan to reveal this? Don't you think you could have, I don't know, said this before hand. Would have helped the good guys immensely there buddy.
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06-23-2006, 05:43 PM | #2318 | |
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Note my math is wrong because I went ot the front page and saw 23 players, but that included Fouts. Instead its 20 of 22 players have a role either as a Nec or as an E. Toss in the Prophecy, which is likely neutral, and you have 21 of 22. That's just one generic spot for an Egyptian if there are no dupes.
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06-23-2006, 05:43 PM | #2319 | |
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Hey, I only got 3 days. I gotta stir this place up. That said, I don't know everything about Lathum's role, but I know I am an Avatar and he summoned me. He says he has proof of Alan T's guilt. So anyone wanting to lynch him or protect Alan, has me suspicious of them. |
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06-23-2006, 05:44 PM | #2320 |
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OK, I'm out for a bit. I don't know how much more obvious I can be that I am certain about AlanT. I've put my neck on the line today when I didn't have to so anyone who is voting for me is a suspect in my book. Whoever is lynched tonight it is going to shed some serious light on the game and show a pretty obvious divide.
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06-23-2006, 05:44 PM | #2321 |
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I really, really doubt that blade scanned bullet on night one. It just doesn't seem like a blade play, with all his ranting with lathum. I also don't think we would have given up his vision powers for three nights so early in the game when we needed people to trust; his raililngs against it might have been a double fake but it just seems wrong. NONE of the lathum/fouts shit makes ANY sense at all -- the role that isn't listed, why blade would have gone bullet/avatar/avatar, how blade died yesterday, why no one is TALKING about that first problem if no other reason than to tell me why i'm wrong.
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06-23-2006, 05:45 PM | #2322 | |
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This whole theory was dependant on my scanning someone. Lathum hoped I would scan Alan...or even some other innocent and it would come back that they were a nec....instead when it became obvious I was scanning him him ran with it knowing he was in the clear. I feel dirty.
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forgot to comment on the lists too.... there has to be an Enchanter, or else where did barkeep's scarab come from |
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06-23-2006, 05:46 PM | #2324 |
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A Scavenger has the ability to look like a generic villager to scans, summon avatars, know proof of my existance without doubt.
THat is the current claim. Should we buy it? |
06-23-2006, 05:47 PM | #2325 | |
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06-23-2006, 05:47 PM | #2326 |
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Okay, here's a likely dumb, question, for Fouts and/or Lathum.
Suppose you are right, and Fouts is the Avatar. Where's the mummy? If you are the head nec, and two of your flock have already bit it, wouldn;t you want protection? Wouldn't you want to use just ONE night action to summon teh biggest, baddest, nastiest mummy you could? Even if it gets lynched the following day, that buys your team another set of night actions, for free. Summoning the mummy is like taking an extra turn for your whole team. Why WOULDN'T the head nec have done it last night? I see no reason why the head nec would not have brought in the mummy now, when he has a chance and when his team needs time to regroup. Since we only have one extra person today I don;t think you need to be a rocket scientist to connet the dots. -Anxiety
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06-23-2006, 05:47 PM | #2327 |
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Fouts: The scan is bogus no matter what at this point. The question is how is this so?
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06-23-2006, 05:48 PM | #2328 |
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Here is a different thought... to throw out there..
What.. .if... Lathum isn't bad... But instead he is the prophecy. I mean it looked like the prophecy struck down Blade right after Blade did a very nice job of pissing Lathum off for maybe the first time I have ever seen. And we have no idea what the Prophecy is capable of doing (ie: summoning somone?) And the prophecy would be hidden from scans... is that too much of a stretch? |
06-23-2006, 05:49 PM | #2329 |
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Here is something I just thought of, take it however.
Lathum says he got scanned night one. No one else has reported a scan all game long. This could reconcile with blade spending two days to summon the avatar. Blade pretty much gave us bullet on a platter yesterday, hinting as strongly as he could without having to blow his role. This cannot reconcile at all with lathum's story. Either blade never scanned bullet or lathum was trying to pull a fast one on us day two, trying to get in good with us. And it worked for a little while. |
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If we believe path when he claimed to have begun with one, then why wouldn't other role also begin with one? Although I agree, I think there has to be an enchanter somewhere. -Anxiety
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06-23-2006, 05:49 PM | #2331 | |
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i cant be too sure about this, as it is pretty much a semantic based idea, but the rules say the mystic had to forgo seeing for 3 days...not 3 consecutive days if the days didnt have to be consecutive, blade could have gone {avatar/avatar/bullet} or {avatar/bullet/avatar}....maybe lathum could check Blade's notes and let us know? |
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06-23-2006, 05:50 PM | #2332 | |
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This is what I didn't want to say because it gives lathum an out to explain everything today and the blade kill yesterday. I wanted someone to at least TALK about his role issue first. |
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Additionally, if Blade got bullet with a scan, wouldn;t he have pushed the folloiwng day? If he skipped two days to scan, when did he scan Bullet? -Anxiety
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Depends on what part of the statement he is scanning. Is it the whole post? I don't know the in's and out's of his role. I DO know that if I'm the soothsayer, I believe in my abilities and do not waver. |
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06-23-2006, 05:51 PM | #2336 | |
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Well I am not sure if its necessarily an out. We have no idea if the prophecy is good or not, and considering he killed our seer and has flat out lied to us most of today, I'm leaning towards the not. |
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I can definately buy this but it still makes lathum's story pretty damn bogus for the entire game; his role is bad and this would disqualify him being scanned night one. |
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06-23-2006, 05:53 PM | #2338 | |
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i actually accounted for those two in an earlier post. 1. path had a blessed scarab at the start of the game, used it night 2, unknown if it protected his room or not. 2. the head necro had a cursed scarab at the start of the game, used it night 4, and it clouded Dubb's view of him today 3. the enchanter made a scarab and gave it to barkeep on night 3., we dont know where it is now. |
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I think lathum has to die for information sake now. If he turns out good then we keep fouts, we can ponder dubb, and we can look elsewhere. If he's bad then we slaughter fouts, we can ponder about dubb differently, and we have probably taken out a lot of their offense one way or another. This is one of these situations that even if lathum is good we don't really lose.
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Vote Lathum
You stink. Either of prophecy or of Head Neccing. -Anxiety
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This seems pretty plausible to me. |
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Saldana presents a good case here. So I'll buy it.
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This is crazy. Avatar only lasts for 3 days. IF Lathum has more abilities, he is not going to come out and say "yeah, I can do other stuff, necros come and kill me". If Lathum is bad and summoned a mummy, why let the mummy live and kill somebody else? Alan T, saldana, tyrith so far. Anxiety is creeping onto the list of suspected necros. |
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So far your list of necros then is: Quick, Barkeep, Sndvls, Alan T, Saldana, Tyrith .. anyone else? |
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2. Passacaglia - Ruling Class, killed Night 4 6. Cronin - Explorer, lynched Day 2 12. Coffee Warlord - Ruling Class Fanatic, killed himself Night 4 13. bulletsponge - Necromancer, lynched Day 4 16. Bek - Necromancer Initiate, lynched Day 3 17. Blade6119 - Mystic, Day kill Day 4 18. Swaggs - Ruling Class, lynched Day 1 Alive: [15] 1. Barkeep49 3. Schmidty 4. path12 5. Anxiety 7. Dubb 8. AlanT 9. Saldana 10. SnDvls 11. Lathum 14. Qwikshot 15. Tyrith 19. Vince 20. Chubby 21. Tanglewood 22. Kingfc22 Undead: [1] Fouts=Mummy or Avatar, Mummy is more likely Unclaimed Roles: - Elite Guard: standard bodyguard role. Do not learn the identity of the attacker, but will successfully block an attack except by Mummy or a Disease. Can not guard same person on consecutive nights without explicit order from the Pharaoh. - Enchanter: can craft a Scarab of Protection once every four nights (Available on 3rd day, can be used once every 4 days, uses cannot be 'stockpiled). Cannot use their own scarab initially, but can use it in the event it is passed back to them. - High Priest: has the ability to consecrate the dead, prevented them from being reanimated, once every three days (note - cannot be used until at least Night 3, usage cannot be 'stockpiled'). - 'Favored by the Gods': will avert death (at least) one time during the game. No dice roll is invoked, no opportunity to identify his attacker. He will not even know he was attacked. The necromancers will know that he is 'Favored'. This power is useless against the Mummy or a Disease spell. - Healthy: will not be affected by Disease spell. - Magically attuned: has 10% chance of detecting mystic/enchanter/necromancer/high priest/soothsayer when they invoke the following actions: craft scarab, consecrate dead, animate mummy, summon avatar, 'lie detector'. - The Prophecy: the coming of this one has been foretold. But will he bring victory to the forces of life or death? Note - only hidden role in the game. Cannot be detected by seer, does not show up as a necromancer if 'sought'. - Brothers: these two players may PM each other freely throughout the game. The loss of one will have consequences on the other. -Head Necromancer -Dreamweaver That makes for 11 unlcaimed roles....now lets start to place these roles and I know this may help the necs some, but I feel it is important.... 1. Barkeep49--scanned by blade? 3. Schmidty 4. path12--pharoah, public knowledge 5. Anxiety--Magically attuned?, just a feeling 7. Dubb--soothsayer, claimed and played role 8. AlanT--brother? 9. Saldana--brother? 10. SnDvls--generic, confirmed by me 11. Lathum--trying to pull something 14. Qwikshot--unknown, but never wavered in support of seer 15. Tyrith 19. Vince--generic? 20. Chubby 21. Tanglewood 22. Kingfc22 Well, that is my best guess at this point, anyone want to make corrections?
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Not yet. Let me look over dubb's list. |
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