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He has been moved to ICU.
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04-06-2020, 02:42 PM | #22552 |
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Source: Coronavirus: Boris Johnson moved to intensive care as symptoms 'worsen' - BBC News
(sky news was the first one to report it but, well, it's sky news) SI
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04-06-2020, 02:56 PM | #22553 |
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Really sad news.
I hope he pulls out of it. This disease is no fucking joke. |
04-06-2020, 02:59 PM | #22554 |
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Crazy that the U.K. has no succession law.
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04-06-2020, 03:28 PM | #22555 |
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In Germany about 83% in Intensive Care are on Ventilators ... (and really, it is about the only thing different as far as care between normal and ICU as far as treatment options are concerned)
So odds are he is out of comission for a while as a best guess ... Not sure how much of the actual decision making he determines on a micro level but that can't be good for coordinating efforts and communicating decisions to the people.
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Well it's a Parliamentary system. Their Head of State has a very organized succession law, FWIW
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04-06-2020, 03:39 PM | #22557 | |
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For me, it's more a case of wonderment at how far this has spread. This coming from any GOPer in congress or in the WH or on the cabinet is pretty par for the course, but before Esper this wasn't seen in the civilian leadership of the Pentagon. It's yet another aspect of our civic life corroded.
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04-06-2020, 03:45 PM | #22558 |
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04-06-2020, 03:53 PM | #22559 | |
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The Secretary of any Armed Forces branch chastising service members for supporting their commander is crazy considering he went down standing up for his sailors. Even if you actually support removing Crozier this wasn't the right way to handle the fallout. I'm trying to wrap my head around what the goal of that was other than Trump continuing to show no respect for service members. Meanwhile, a stunning number of active and former service members support him and believe he stands up for the military. And the Alt-right thinks Crozier took a fall to make Trump look bad. The only logical reason he'd ruin his career is if he had some sort of promise from the dems. |
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04-06-2020, 04:49 PM | #22560 | |
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I don't know yet if Crozier did the right thing (I think he did). Obviously saving lives is the right thing but did he take it through proper channels, did he give enough time to respond, did he leak the memo etc.? It'll all come out some day. However, for him to criticize Crozier and "scold" (like you know who) the sailors was not the right way ... and I agree, WTF did he think the goal of that was? I can see him yelling at the officers but to get the rank and file involved seems weird to me. |
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04-06-2020, 05:02 PM | #22561 | |
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I have a hard time faulting any commander for putting his service members first. For him to do so knowing it's likely going to end his career shows how dire he felt the situation was and it's not like Navy ships aren't known for their sanitary conditions. I can only guess the Trump administration had a melt down over how bad Crozier getting cheered and his name chanted made them look and Modly was the guy to send the message. |
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04-06-2020, 06:00 PM | #22562 |
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shut the fuck up, Donnie
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04-06-2020, 06:01 PM | #22563 | |
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Modly told a WaPo reporter that he didn't want Trump to intervene, so he removed Crozier before Trump could force him to.
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04-06-2020, 08:37 PM | #22564 |
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04-06-2020, 08:49 PM | #22565 |
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Heh. On the lighter side, I was gonna quote a post on facebook from a friend on the whole Crozier thing .. and then I remembered, oh yeah, that friend is from here. Derp.
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04-06-2020, 08:50 PM | #22566 |
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I keep seeing that Modley was on the boat but the message was piped through the PA system. I hope he has the decency to stand in front of the men and women of the USS TR and deliver his message. Just gather them all up on deck and say your piece. Given the tight accommodations onboard the vessel, all the social distancing protocols are null and void anyways.
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He is walking anyway. He is the acting SECNAV and someone has already been nominated for the position.
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04-06-2020, 09:39 PM | #22569 | |
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That is a pretty solid non-apology, 8/10 at least.
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04-06-2020, 09:39 PM | #22570 |
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04-06-2020, 09:50 PM | #22571 |
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NYTimes reports that Trump has a small financial interest in a French company making millions of doses of chloroquine.
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04-07-2020, 08:00 AM | #22574 |
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I'm no trump apologist as you know but it sounds like it's through Family Trusts and I'm willing to bet, with the way Biotech works esp big cos, there's no way he could talk about almost any drug without have a 6 degrees good chance of being involved with one of their parents.
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LOL, approx $1300. OMG this wealthy man has investments that include a company making a generic drug, there's the link! Trump has very small financial tie to hydroxychloroquine producer - Business Insider "Calculations by Business Insider suggest the stake — held via a trust and a mutual fund — is worth no more than $1,305." |
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04-07-2020, 08:05 AM | #22576 | |
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Yep this is where the fake news shit comes from that got Trump elected. The NY Times apparently doesn't have much to write about with it being the world epicenter for coronavirus and all so they run this story which is quite easily taken apart in the way you described but not before being retweeted/posted all over the echo chambers of twitter, facebook, FOFC. Shocked, shocked though that Rainmaker and JPhillips would post about it without really looking into it at all. Their posting are fairly balanced on this stuff. Last edited by panerd : 04-07-2020 at 08:06 AM. |
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04-07-2020, 08:09 AM | #22577 |
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It must be a burden being so much smarter than everyone else.
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04-07-2020, 08:11 AM | #22578 |
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If only congress had made him sell his peanut farm.....
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04-07-2020, 10:10 AM | #22580 |
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Remember when the White House touted a non-existent website by Google that was going to solve all our testing needs?
And how a mistake like that would have absolutely destroyed a Bush or Obama White House and still be a major talking point? But with Trump, it is like it never even existed? |
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What we can take away from the Trump presidency is its better to be incompetent and lie all of the time than it is to be competent and do your best. It's really an inspirational story for our youth. Fwiw, the Google thing was apparently another Kushner fuck up. He exaggerated Google and other companies work on this to make it sound like he's working hard to create a game plan and didn't think Trump would throw it out there in a press conference. |
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04-07-2020, 10:42 AM | #22582 |
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The website flowchart was Birx's worst moment.
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The new press secretary's application reel:
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Trump fired the IG in charge of overseeing the bailout.
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Like several people on here, I was surprised to see Trump's approval numbers hit 50%+ in this crisis.
Things made a bit more sense to me when I learned that Jimmy Carter's approval hit 56% when the Iranian Hostage Crisis began. |
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Yeah, approval rating for leaders usually goes up during a crisis no matter what. Plus, he promised to give people a check
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Sec of Navy Modly RESIGNED! THis is Fricking AWESOME!!!!
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Modly is reminding me of Michael Douglas in Falling Down... D-FENS! Last edited by CrimsonFox : 04-07-2020 at 03:30 PM. |
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The Undersecretary of the Army will now also serve as the Acting Secretary of the Navy. What is the Army going to do with all of it's new toys?
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Holy shit, Trump is firing seven IGs and replacing them with people loyal to him. This means the IG put in charge of the bailout will be a Trump loyalist.
We will never know where that 500 billion goes.
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Getting closer to reality.
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04-07-2020, 09:31 PM | #22599 |
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What an embarrassment :Facing a crisis that rivals Pearl Harbor, world's superpower pleads for coronavirus aid
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Looking at who he put in charge at multiple agencies and who those guys hired, i fail to be surprised. The next presiden (knock on Wood) will have no choice but to overhaul everything again, leading to lots of lost time and creating an added dimension of partisanship again even if he wanted to avoid it. Plus every agency has been set back tremendously by his Obsession with acting officials and ignoring proper staffing. https://www.politico.com/amp/news/ma...pidemic-173347
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