WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Zinto

The other question is do we want to have an away team try to get water? We are going to run out tomorrow.

We may not have that luxury. I think we need all hands to help with repairs. Keep in mind, if we fix power, our water module comes back on.

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Don't worry, Simbo, I understand where you're coming from. I don't know about anyone else, but I am fully aware it was CF who made the decision to push that. He went forward with it with his orders, too, before waiting to see if the remaining crew had a consensus on that being the priority he made it out to be.

Thanks for that, Chief- it's become apparent to me that these rush decisions have been detrimental. I'm going to be waiting for more well-thought out input before I act from now on.

So, piggybacking off that, we need to establish priorities. I agree with Chief- Power definitely has to come first. Is there enough manpower left to get the power back on? If not, do we still make progress or focus our energies elsewhere to get something else we can use?

[Chief Rum]

We have 6 cycles to complete there. Unfortunately, Autumn was Mr. Cycle Calculator. Someone will have to dive back into the rules and get a handle on things, so we can figure it out again.

[britrock88]

As for repairs, only engineers can do them at present. CF and Simbo repaired the medical facilities. So hoops and DV working together can complete 3 cycles of repair; working day and night, they'll have the power back up by morning.

[JAG]

Repairs don't work like conversions guys. Engineers can fix 1 cycle of damage and the Chief Engineer can fix 2 if he works with another I think.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

Ok, there's my order processed. It doesn't say a 2nd examination can happen though and of course again this looks bad for me. I would ask people to wait until tonight to see if it is fully operational before passing any judgements on what I did.

I wonder if the facility will only allow for one exam per day. That would put a damper on making anymore doctors for sure.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by JAG

Repairs don't work like conversions guys. Engineers can fix 1 cycle of damage and the Chief Engineer can fix 2 if he works with another I think.

In that case, I am even more annoyed at CF than I was before. I'm ready to lynch him now.

[britrock88]

Except that as the only people capable of doing repairs, engineers are CRUCIAL... unless/until we do the medium research that lets everyone do repairs.

[Julio Riddols]

I think we need to do the medium research.

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by JAG

I wonder if the facility will only allow for one exam per day. That would put a damper on making anymore doctors for sure.

I looked after he didn't elaborate and it didn't say anything about capacity. Having a backup in case of success (that alone is crazy to me) isn't bad, but it's pretty obvious we're going to need more engineers.

[Julio Riddols]

I think we do the research today and try our best to get enough of the power grid fixed to enable full use of the medical facilities. (Can we re-route power?) Then we medically scan 2 people we strongly suspect to be spawn. Then we do the same with our votes tonight.

[Julio Riddols]

Also, we won't even need engineers if we complete the medium level training.

[Julio Riddols]

Not the medium level training.. the medium level science thing.

[britrock88]

BTW, as I head out, early vote count:

hoops - julio (2094)
chubby - cf (2134)

Engineers and security are turning on each other...

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

adding another thought to the list of my nagging doubts about hoops. He keeps wanting people to do things at night. Then again we're screwed if we don't I understand that. But he is really encouraging it as if he wants us exhausted.

paradox...paradox...paradox...

Way behind, trying to catch up. But I want to work fast so we can take off, which eliminates all spawnling stuff. This is a big advantage.

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Not the medium level training.. the medium level science thing.

I looked at the re-routing and it should be free for hoops to do this time (He did one for the fence already I think) so he can do that and the repairs. So that's a good idea.

But the thing with the medium science is that it's taken this long to get halfway up the High level one, and we're guessing it would take this many days again to get the medium one. Which is a long time to wait for more repairs.

[Simbo Klice]

Originally Posted by Simbo Klice

I looked at the re-routing and it should be free for hoops to do this time (He did one for the fence already I think) so he can do that and the repairs. So that's a good idea.

But the thing with the medium science is that it's taken this long to get halfway up the High level one, and we're guessing it would take this many days again to get the medium one. Which is a long time to wait for more repairs.

So that's why we need to train engineers, to finish my implication.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by britrock88

BTW, as I head out, early vote count:

hoops - julio (2094)
chubby - cf (2134)

Engineers and security are turning on each other...

I was about to make the funny point that we would win then, because we control the guns. Then I remembered the engineers controlled the power to the armory, lol.

I presume, though, that us security peeps are better at hand to hand than the Geek Squad.

[Chief Rum]

If we figure it's 4-6 cycles to do medium research (since it looks like it's 8-10 on the high level research), and we have two scientists, we can a day and night shift might get the medium research done by the start of tomorrow's day shift, and for sure by the end of the day tomorrow.

With the crew quarters kaboshed and so much repair there, I don't think it much matters if we're all exhausted now, because that's what we will pretty much be most of the time until we can get to fixing that.

So we might as well work day and night. Treat night shifts like day shifts for work, just work around the clock. We'll pass around speed tabs or something.

It will be important to get this organized within the first hour or so of the night shift every night, because that is when most everyone will be around.

[Simbo Klice]

Sounds good to me Chief. I've got to get some sleep, but will try to be back on right before deadline. For now, I will say that I think hoops should be scan target #1 and Crimson #2. We just need to know we can count on hoops before we know what our repairs will look like.

I'll also
Vote CrimsonFox
in case we don't get two investigations. Not saying he should be the lynch, but there's just a lot of weirdness centering around him in my eyes.

[saldana]

If we had any water from an away team, would we be able to store it anywhere?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by saldana

If we had any water from an away team, would we be able to store it anywhere?

Yes

[JAG]

Yeah, we have 21 storage spots available.

We can re-route power to the water supplier, but note that we were forced to use our reserve water when power was damaged last night. If power / water facility was damaged and we didn't have water reserves, we would end up dehydrated tomorrow (other than the spawn). I'm afraid to be safe we ought to run a mission today.

I also think we need to shift focus on research and try to accomplish the middle task, which would let us better deal with needed repairs and conversion, and, as Julio pointed out, let us reassign engineers to more pressing tasks.

We may even want to consider training a scientist to get the research done more quickly (not sure we can spare personnel in another area though) and we need to make sure the lab is protected this evening.

[Shiggles]

hrmmmmmm. crappy night. Saldana, you want me to scan instead of you? and who are you intending?

We really need the water situation to make sure its fixed, or we all die. exhausted and dehydrated, probably not a good sign.

Any advice on what i can do? i got only the 1 AP lol, and if i cant scan, i guess i could help someone with something, but my actions are limited. Group line dancing for morale? lol

[Shiggles]

ooo, away team. i could totally help with that right? and i could first aid anyone who gets attacked. totally!

[JAG]

Does LSG get knowledge of what plans Autumn made up?

[JAG]

Shiggles, do nothing yet.

[Shiggles]

Originally Posted by JAG

Shiggles, do nothing yet.

Np boss, i'll sit around for a few hours before inputting anything. Feel free to order in case you guys decide on the mission before i get back. time for foodz

[Barkeep49]

saldana decides he will examine hoops

[Barkeep49]

The two both emerge from the medical facilities

[Barkeep49]

If you've sent an order today and I haven't run it please resend. Out again for a bit.

[Julio Riddols]

if we can get the medium research done today and tonight, then tomorrow we can focus on repairs and getting back on track. As it is now, I think to waste time on repairs when we could possibly kill off some of the threat is a bad idea. I feel like we're at a tipping point where if we don't have a great day today, the spawn will all but have us finished.

[hoopsguy]

I have not received a PM from BK, outside of the one this morning alerting me that Crimson + I worked together before the crew quarters were trashed.

Would have expected one from BK on Saldana's scan. I know I'll come back clean, but based on what I read in-thread earlier I would have thought to see something.

In a meeting for the remainder of the afternoon, will post later including any jobs that I need to work in order to try and help clean up this mess. I'm hoping that others can build a consensus on how I might best help.

[britrock88]

Can someone order Schmidty to do the medium research? I'll also get on it myself.

[britrock88]

I still think Hoops and DV getting half the repair done on the power facilities is the best option for now.

[britrock88]

Julio, I would entertain your idea that the engineers do something other than repair in order to catch spawn, but what would that consist of?

[Julio Riddols]

Well, if there is a way to enable the second doctor to also do an examination, I think it would be good. It has to be a good one though.

[Julio Riddols]

In fact, I almost think we need a second opinion on hoops.

[Zinto]

We should make sure we can scan more then one person before we try to fix the medical lab anymore, though I think it is all the way fixed at this point.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

In fact, I almost think we need a second opinion on hoops.

I almost think I still need to vote for you, despite you seemingly moving into more trusted status due to the weird-ass psychic reveal.

If I was Spawn, I would have killed the doc.
If I'm Spawnling, it is totally news to me.
I expect Saldana will provide a clean bill of health.

[Abe Sargent]

I am leaving in about a half hour and won;t be back until after the deadline for day actions, but well before lynch.

Thoughts on training? Or does someone need me to work on something

[JAG]

LSG, please take 4 slaves out on a water run when you show up.

[JAG]

We don't need you to work Abe, let me take a look and see if there's something to train.

[Abe Sargent]

As a reminder, here's how I work:


Trainer (1 AP per cycle)
The Trainer performs work in the Scientist Labs

Train Day Only The Trainer may choose a member of the Enlisted Crew to train, to become a Specialist or untrain a specialist to become an Enlisted Crew member. The player will assume the role at the start of the next Day cycle. 1 AP


I can only make a specialist an enlisted crew or vice versa, but I can;t move someone from one specialist or to another or one enlisted to another

Specialist:

Doctor, Engineer, Scientist

Enlisted:

All of the various security roles

[JAG]

Actually you can do day actions up until lynch, the only one we can't is the excursions to mine / get water.

[Abe Sargent]

Oh, and I'm a specialist as well, so I could move myself to security, but doing so removes our Trainer. I believe I can do that, I asked BK earlier and didn;t get an answer, but it seems in the rule.s

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by JAG

Actually you can do day actions up until lynch, the only one we can't is the excursions to mine / get water.

Ah, okay, sorry abotu that. I havemn;t done missions yet, so I was out of line on those rules, thanks. I should be back 6 or 6:30ish, so we'll be fine

[Abe Sargent]

For now, as a placeholder vote just in case something happens

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[Abe Sargent]

He's been quiet and its day 4, time to start talking

[britrock88]

BK's out for now, but:

- LSG should take 4 slaves out on a water run (per JAG)
- an officer should order Schmidty to do medium-level research (per consensus
- Hoops and DV should repair the power facilities (per me, but there's nothing better than that for them to do)

also,

VOTE COUNT

hoops (1) - julio (2094)
chubby (1) - cf (2134)
cf (1) - simbo (2220)
pf (1) - abe (2248)