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Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. | 5 | 5.56% | |
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. | 2 | 2.22% | |
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") | 30 | 33.33% | |
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. | 12 | 13.33% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration | 6 | 6.67% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. | 30 | 33.33% | |
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) | 5 | 5.56% | |
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01-12-2021, 06:00 PM | #2201 |
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01-12-2021, 06:16 PM | #2202 |
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Schumer carries around his own podium?
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01-12-2021, 06:37 PM | #2206 |
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if chuck norris replaced chuck schumer, congress would be more exciting.
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01-12-2021, 06:54 PM | #2207 |
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so republicans in arizona are voting to censure McCain's wife
Arizona's Maricopa County GOP censures ex-Sen. Jeff Flake, plans vote to also censure Cindy McCain |
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01-12-2021, 07:08 PM | #2209 |
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FINALLY!!!! Just yesterday or the other day he said he wasn't going to do that! omg so sick of dewine now but so glad this is happening. Columbus is a mess with shitheads Last edited by CrimsonFox : 01-12-2021 at 07:09 PM. |
01-12-2021, 07:30 PM | #2210 |
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I really hope Biden plays it safe with inauguration because the police are in cahoots.
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01-12-2021, 07:38 PM | #2211 |
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01-12-2021, 07:57 PM | #2212 | |
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At what point does this jump from being disciplined/removed from Congress to life in prison or execution? I know the word treason gets thrown around too much, but if this is at all accurate, what else can you call it? |
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Just going out on a limb here and guessing since he is so active in Arizona that it is Lesko, Biggs and Gosar and I would love to see everyone of those fuckers put in prison for a looooong time. |
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01-12-2021, 08:10 PM | #2214 |
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I’d nominate Gohmert and Brooks. Gosar seems like another good bet. There is also some Ted Cruz smoke.
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01-12-2021, 08:19 PM | #2215 |
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That crazy one from Colorado was live tweeting locations.
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01-12-2021, 08:28 PM | #2217 |
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Didn't we know that already? I thought him working with Biggs, Gosar, and Brooks was public even before the rally.
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01-12-2021, 08:33 PM | #2218 |
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Yes, Jphillips. This not really news except he says it on video.
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01-12-2021, 09:12 PM | #2220 | |
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I think the news today, which nobody seems to have noticed, was Brooks saying a WH staffer was coordinating speakers for the rally.
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01-12-2021, 09:49 PM | #2221 |
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Seems like recon missions were done.
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01-12-2021, 10:13 PM | #2222 |
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That' such a damning accusation that I want to get some corroboration, but it definitely needs to be investigated and exposed if true.
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Even as each part of damning new evidence drops it's STILL impossible to tell if there was some real, nefarious & sophisticated coordination with violent internet going on in the background, or if this was just some extended circus clown show that everybody involved with naively thought would get to some critical level but never turn violent.
The lack of police seems to be the crucial element....like if there had been a 'proper' amount of police force there I think this would've looked a lot more like a Portland protest, and the folks never would've made it inside the building, which is the optics that I think all the involved politicians were imagining. It seems like the police response was weakened from several different points and it will be ironic if it was done without any kind of coordination and effectively 'defunding the police' ends up being the reason everything went to shit.
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One would think that they should know who every person that goes through that building is.
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01-13-2021, 05:48 AM | #2227 |
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"If we are going to take this building, we need to work together."
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01-13-2021, 06:04 AM | #2228 |
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Some thing are coincidence, but some of these things are not going to be.
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01-13-2021, 06:30 AM | #2229 |
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Can we fast forward this movie? I'll go ahead and spoil the next act. A group of people are now going to scream and yell about the the people making the accusations are overreacting/trying to score political point/not being responsible and calming things etc. etc. Now can we get to the part about the reveal of whether they are right or wrong?
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I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the insurrectionists went through tours or saw their representatives who showed them around. But that is a far cry from the representatives giving "recon" tours, knowing and abetting the storming the next day. Sounds like another hyperbolic twitter spam and fake news to me. But let's see what the formal investigation comes up. |
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FWIW, the video actually shows how uncoordinated and unplanned it was. I'll admit to FF some sections, so feel free to provide a time stamp on the incriminating statement(s). I don't doubt there were a few true believers that planned something when they attended the rally (pipe bombs) but com'on, this specific video didn't show a carefully planned, coordinated terrorist action. Last edited by Edward64 : 01-13-2021 at 07:00 AM. |
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What is without a doubt is that there were people in that crowd that had bigger plans, and this could have been much worse. |
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FWIW I know I shouldn't like this picture because of what happened and it representing a very dark day in our country ... but I do like this picture.
Article says charged with "theft of property". If this guy did go beyond trespass and stealing the lectern, throw the book at him for sure. But I do like this pic on face value. Last edited by Edward64 : 01-13-2021 at 07:31 AM. |
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To me it represents how stupid and fucked our country is. The guys wife is a doctor, he has kids, and threw their life away so he could act like an ass. His family will carry the stench of this their whole lives.
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I like his lawyer's quote: "I'm not a magician"
Adam Johnson released: Man seen carrying Pelosi's lectern in riot | wtsp.com There's something amusing about that picture - these are the goofs that invaded the capital. Many were there for the "Team Trump Super Bowl" - which is mostly more stupid and weirdly celebratory than dangerous. But it also belies the much darker intentions of a number of people in that crowd, downplays the deaths, and the seriousness that we were really close to a successful coup. It's comforting that our institutions held, but it was disappointing that we have that many dumb and delusional people and it needs to not be forgotten how close we were to overthrowing an election and that express train to fascism. And it really was a hair's breadth. If, for instance, if Goodman isn't there and doesn't put himself in serious personal harm's way, duping a bunch of racist protesters to follow him instead of go towards the unsecured Senate chambers, our Democracy would have fallen. That's exactly how close it was. SI
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Can't say I'm a fan of pictures of looters, whether it's BLM or these assholes.
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Bullhorn lady is going to spend some time in prison.
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I mentioned previously my wife's BIL is a big MAGA fan, one of those that annoys you with all the FB stuff.
I'm not a FB user so asked my wife at dinner (again) last night if BIL had anything interesting to say. She said nope, still just posting new doggie pics. I don't know really how "deep" of a Trump believer he is. I do wish he would post something "reflective" vs the endless spamming prior to a week ago. Seems cowardly to withdraw from posting his FB opinions right now. My SIL is also a Trump supporter. Not near as annoying as BIL and doesn't post anything political on FB. Need to get her thoughts next time we are together in person. |
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I agree Jphlips. Also the guy trying to give a layout of the building and was direct them to a certain room. I am not saying the whole crowd had a plan, but there were people in that crowd the definitely did. The fact they attacked certain unmarked offices (the parliamentarian, the majority whip) that few people could find without help suggests that.
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It's like that scene in Crocodile Dundee II where Mick and a handful of guys have a plan to storm the drug dealers' fortress and get Sue back, and there also happen to be hundreds of party people just along for the joyride. Both things can be happening at the same time, and the huge crowd is great for a distraction.
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I was driving back from my uncle's yesterday, and there is a guy that has had his 12-14 TRUMP/PENCE 2020 campaign signs hanging up on his gate and fence this whole time. Yesterday I noticed that he's placed a piece of tape across PENCE on each and every one of the weathered signs.
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Tom Cole already lying in opening statement saying Trump has conceded. He most certainly has not.
It is also clear they are taking the "unity" path. Bullshit |
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We just had a test of the emergency alert system. Q people must be losing their shit.
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There are rumors that the Senate actually might start the trial on Friday. I don't think that would happen unless they have the votes to convict. I am willing to admit I was totally wrong if they do. If they can convict, then impeachment is absolutely the right thing to do. I am still not going to believe it until I hear McConnell say Trump must go with his thin turtle lips.
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