Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469 - Page 45

Fouts · 06-23-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

or a warning from a mummy

So a promise to live is a warning? Oook.

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

what quote did you use and question did you ask?

The fact that he is a generic villager and he feels the seer is too important to us. I figured if he was lieing I could pin point wheter he had a powerful egyptian role or was a nec. Turns out he was telling the truth about all of it. He's generic and had no reason to want the seer to reveal.

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:42 PM

Bolded equals known. Blue equals good guy. Red equals bad guy. Italics is speculation, but likely true.

1. Bad guy C
2. Passacaglia - Ruling Class, killed Night 4
3. Bad guy D
4. Head Necro
5. Good egyptian role
6. Cronin - Explorer, lynched Day 2
7. Dubb -- soothsayer
8. Vanilla Egyptian (Sndvls?)
9. Path -- Pharoah
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12. Coffee Warlord - Ruling Class Fanatic, killed himself Night 4
13. bulletsponge - Necromancer, lynched Day 4
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16. Bek - Necromancer Initiate, lynched Day 3
17. Blade6119 - Mystic, Day kill Day 4
18. Swaggs - Ruling Class, lynched Day 1
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20.
21.
22.

Fouts · 06-23-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I find this suspicious Fouts. If you were the Avatar, all you have is a guard action. How could you guarantee nobody dies with just one guard action? Unless, of coruse, you are the mummy, and you don;t submit a night action.

Vote Fouts

Easy. The necros would be foolish to attack, knowing they will die.

path12 · 06-23-2006, 04:43 PM

On the chart, you're forgetting the Pharaoh. Please don't forget me.

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:44 PM

Well.....?

kingfc22 · 06-23-2006, 04:44 PM

I don't know how Lathum is so sure that Fouts is the avatar since he is a normal egyptian.

I have to agree with Barkeep and just don't see how we could have two mystics. Just too much of an advantage for us IMO.

Since Blade is dead, the only way Fouts could be entered into the game is by the Head Nec which means he is the mummy.

Vote Fouts

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Easy. The necros would be foolish to attack, knowing they will die.

But they don't know that. They only get hurt if they happen to attack the person who you're protecting. Still seems like good odds for them.

And right now I'm willing to concede that there very well might have been 7 bad guys, or about 1/3 of the players, to start. Still doesn't mean I buy the 2 mystics idea or that Fouts is the avatar.

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

On the chart, you're forgetting the Pharaoh. Please don't forget me.

You're on the latest color coded one. #9.

path12 · 06-23-2006, 04:45 PM

Oops, now I'm on there. Never mind.

Lathum · 06-23-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Well, Lathum is clean, so now I think he owes it to us to tell us how he knows Fouts is the avatar if he is just a "generic villager."

thank you very much, like I said it is a theory, nothing more, but considering Alant's attack on me which he admits he started I think it is a wothwhile risk to back off fouts and go for alanT. If alan is innocent we go for fouts tomorrow. I know it is a risk but if we get another necro in tonight's lynch and fouts is the mummy he may be forced to guard a necro or face an end game scenerio.

Fouts · 06-23-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I don't know how Lathum is so sure that Fouts is the avatar since he is a normal egyptian.

I have to agree with Barkeep and just don't see how we could have two mystics. Just too much of an advantage for us IMO.

Since Blade is dead, the only way Fouts could be entered into the game is by the Head Nec which means he is the mummy.

Vote Fouts

There are other ways.

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Items:
- Scarab of Protection - room cannot be entered that night
- Cursed Scarab - will change seer view (wolf seen as human, human seen as wolf)
- Only the Enchanter and Initiate are able to identify what role an item plays (distinguish between scarabs, for example).

Additional items may be added leading up to start of game, or may remain unidentified in the rules.

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:47 PM

VOTE FOUTS

Mummy or not we can kill the mummy if he does rise later. I feel very strongly that Fouts is the mummy in the meantime. If Lathum would have come back as having a powerful role, I would have thought otherwise.

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:48 PM

So why do we trust dubb again? I know there was a good reason for it when he came out last time. Just don't remember what it was and asking here is simpler than looking at something 30 pages ago

Abe Sargent · 06-23-2006, 04:48 PM

Okay Bk, here's my detailed role list:

Enchanter - I think there has to be an enchanter to counterbalance the Initiate. This is the one of the two (the other being the EG) I am most sure of.

Healthy - This is a chincy little role with little to it, but considering how uber-powerful the disease ability of the Head Nec is, it makes sense to have at least one person who is a foil.

Favored - A decently useful ability that saves you from danger once, but you don;t know it. The Necs know it, though, and can try to kill you again, or just ignore since you now have lost all of your abilities and they know it. Probably in the game.

Elite Guard - Absolutely in the game, a vital role for the Egyptians. This is the only counter to the potential for Egyptians to multi-attack, and he is uber powerful without needed to guard himself, and this all seems like a great foil. Has to be in the game.

I've already spoken to the High Priest. Seen nothing, heard nothing, no reason to believe he's here.

-Anxiety

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So why do we trust dubb again? I know there was a good reason for it when he came out last time. Just don't remember what it was and asking here is simpler than looking at something 30 pages ago

because I'm the soothsayer?

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

VOTE FOUTS

Mummy or not we can kill the mummy if he does rise later. I feel very strongly that Fouts is the mummy in the meantime. If Lathum would have come back as having a powerful role, I would have thought otherwise.

This does bring up a good point. Even if Fouts is the Avatar, if something else comes back reanimated how in the world do we NOT knock that person out. Seems to me that as simple as this one is, that becomes a complete no brainer.

SnDvls · 06-23-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

thank you very much, like I said it is a theory, nothing more, but considering Alant's attack on me which he admits he started I think it is a wothwhile risk to back off fouts and go for alanT. If alan is innocent we go for fouts tomorrow. I know it is a risk but if we get another necro in tonight's lynch and fouts is the mummy he may be forced to guard a necro or face an end game scenerio.

I disagree...fouts needs to go tonight, he is a guaranteed 100% killer if he's a mummy, including killing our EG. If Alan is a necro he can't kill our EG on 100%

Tyrith · 06-23-2006, 04:49 PM

I think it's very risky to let Fouts live unless we have really good evidence to the contrary because he WILL kill someone tonight if he's bad and we're probably gonna have the core of our voting block start to fly apart as the necros are bound to have some coordination by now.

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

because I'm the soothsayer?

Yes but the soothsayer can be evil.

Fouts · 06-23-2006, 04:50 PM

Ok, I tried to help. You guys don't want help. When two or more people die tonight, don't say I didn't warn you.

I'm going to lunch.

Abe Sargent · 06-23-2006, 04:50 PM

I'm off for some food. I hope nobody else dies during the day.

-Anxiety

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yes but the soothsayer can be evil.

But I'm not.

Abe Sargent · 06-23-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I disagree...fouts needs to go tonight, he is a guaranteed 100% killer if he's a mummy, including killing our EG. If Alan is a necro he can't kill our EG on 100%

Unless Alan is the Head Nec and uses Disease.

-Anxiety

kingfc22 · 06-23-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This does bring up a good point. Even if Fouts is the Avatar, if something else comes back reanimated how in the world do we NOT knock that person out. Seems to me that as simple as this one is, that becomes a complete no brainer.

And if he is the mummy and somebody else enters the game it is highly likely that we DO have two mystics and will have an Avatar that won't get lynched. Of course this is far less likely than what scenario BK has described and the that is the one I buy the most.

Barkeep49 · 06-23-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

But I'm not.

Thanks. Got anyway for us to verify that? I thought there some sort of compelling logic as to how you couldn't be evil back on day 2 when you last had a scan. And I concocted some far fetched scenario that could still make you evil. But I didn't view that as likely. I'm just not remembering what made it so I had to concoct schemes.

path12 · 06-23-2006, 04:52 PM

I can't see any reason to move my vote from Fouts. Not worth the risk any other way.

One question -- Dubb mentions that Lathum didn't come back with a powerful role. Did he come back with any kind of role? What exactly did you learn from the scan?

Qwikshot · 06-23-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I'm vanilla ICE

Fixed

SnDvls · 06-23-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Ok, I tried to help. You guys don't want help. When two or more people die tonight, don't say I didn't warn you.

I'm going to lunch.

so someone got the disease...we brought that up 2 days ago. also the fact by this point the necros probally have found at least 1 other person so we know that as well.

SnDvls · 06-23-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Fixed

there you go crapping on my again...thanks

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I can't see any reason to move my vote from Fouts. Not worth the risk any other way.

One question -- Dubb mentions that Lathum didn't come back with a powerful role. Did he come back with any kind of role? What exactly did you learn from the scan?

That he believed everything he posted. He is a generic egyptian and didn't want the seer outted/killed. He was hiding NOTHING from me.

Alan T · 06-23-2006, 04:55 PM

Think what you may of me. I'm the one thats not claiming I know anything like Lathum was. I was wrong about Lathum on my feel, but it doesnt change what we do about Fouts. If Fouts really is an avatar then, I really suck this game anyways.

I don't understand how Lathum knows Fouts is good if he is a common villager either unless its something that Barkeep mentioned earlier (brothers with someone who had something to do with Fouts being brought out). I think though that is a stretch, and Fouts is our kill today. Like I have said a hundred times, all I have to go on this game is my hunches, and I was right once and wrong once if we believe Dubbs (which I think we kind of have to since our current circle is built around him)

SnDvls · 06-23-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Unless Alan is the Head Nec and uses Disease.

-Anxiety

he still would have to know who the EG was in this case. IF you were the mummy wouldn't you target path tonight? probally who the EG is guarding tonight, correct?

Mummy attacks path, blocked by EG, EG is killed by mummy.

head nec tries disease on path, blocked by EG, failed kill

dubb93 · 06-23-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Thanks. Got anyway for us to verify that? I thought there some sort of compelling logic as to how you couldn't be evil back on day 2 when you last had a scan. And I concocted some far fetched scenario that could still make you evil. But I didn't view that as likely. I'm just not remembering what made it so I had to concoct schemes.

If I'm not the soothsayer then who is? Wouldn't someone come out with a conflicting claim? Also, why would I use my role to be clearing people if I were evil? I can think of much better uses of my time if I were evil than clearing multiple people. Also, I think it is prevailing wisdom that if you were scanned by Blade, I was scanned by Blade.

Alan T · 06-23-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Thanks. Got anyway for us to verify that? I thought there some sort of compelling logic as to how you couldn't be evil back on day 2 when you last had a scan. And I concocted some far fetched scenario that could still make you evil. But I didn't view that as likely. I'm just not remembering what made it so I had to concoct schemes.

I think we have to trust him barkeep if we have our current circle of trust built on a deck of cards...

If we are to assume that Blade did scan Dubbs and you, it means both of you were ok. Dubbs vouched for Lathum and Sndvls meaning those two are ok. You said you can vouch for one other person you have not mentioned yet as well.

If you remove either Blade or Dubbs from that trust and it all comes tumbling down.

Im not saying Dubbs cant be evil, but if he is, well our circle of trust is back to day 1.

SnDvls · 06-23-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

he still would have to know who the EG was in this case. IF you were the mummy wouldn't you target path tonight? probally who the EG is guarding tonight, correct?

Mummy attacks path, blocked by EG, EG is killed by mummy.

head nec tries disease on path, can't be blocked by EG, path dies in 2 days, but we keep EG

sorry correction

path12 · 06-23-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

he still would have to know who the EG was in this case. IF you were the mummy wouldn't you target path tonight? probally who the EG is guarding tonight, correct?

Mummy attacks path, blocked by EG, EG is killed by mummy.

head nec tries disease on path, blocked by EG, failed kill

The EG will be on his own tonight, but frankly I'm a little surprised to still be here (though really I appear to be much more of a figurehead than actually useful). I still suspect that if disease has been used I was the most likely target since two days ago I was still the only revealed role.

Tyrith · 06-23-2006, 05:01 PM

Disease gives two more days to cast votes than a mummy kill.

path12 · 06-23-2006, 05:03 PM

Dola, which I only mention because if there are people out there who know something that I do and I can help to clear them, it might behoove to let me know about that sooner than later.

path12 · 06-23-2006, 05:03 PM

Should have known I couldn't have gotten the dola in.

hoopsguy · 06-23-2006, 05:04 PM

Updated votes as of Post #2239:

Fouts - Alan T (1864), Qwikshot (1887), SnDvls (1893), Saldana (1904), Chubby (1928), Schmidty (1937), Kingfc (1956), Path (1967), Anxiety (2200), Dubb (2213)

Alan T - Lathum (1912)

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Lathum · 06-23-2006, 05:09 PM

ok, I didn't want to do this but...

I am basicly a normal villegar but I have a small role. I am a scavenger and I have the option of twice during the game to loot the possesions of the person who was just killed. I couldn't help but loot blades possesions and without directly quoting my PM i found his notes. They were open to the third page of a spell and I was given the option to complete the spell with 66% success, if I failed I would have been cursed and only had 3 days to live. I figured I may as well try it, hence fouts.

when he returnd from lunch I'm sure he will tell you it was I who sumoned him

Fouts · 06-23-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Think what you may of me. I'm the one thats not claiming I know anything like Lathum was. I was wrong about Lathum on my feel, but it doesnt change what we do about Fouts. If Fouts really is an avatar then, I really suck this game anyways.

I don't understand how Lathum knows Fouts is good if he is a common villager either unless its something that Barkeep mentioned earlier (brothers with someone who had something to do with Fouts being brought out). I think though that is a stretch, and Fouts is our kill today. Like I have said a hundred times, all I have to go on this game is my hunches, and I was right once and wrong once if we believe Dubbs (which I think we kind of have to since our current circle is built around him)

Lathum knows I'm good, because Lathum summoned me.

Vince · 06-23-2006, 05:09 PM

You could pencil Vince in as another vanilla villager. I got nothin'.

Did I miss Lathum posting since Dubb has cleared him? What makes Lathum think that Fouts is the Avatar (I believe he said he was 99% sure Fouts is the Avatar)? It would be really f***ed if Dubb and Lathum were in cahoots...

That being said, I have to go. If we trust Dubb, that makes Lathum a vanilla villager. He is 99% sure that Fouts is the Avatar, yet Dubb is still going to vote for Fouts. My conspiracy theory bad-guy-o-meter is going wild on this...if Dubb thinks (knows) that Lathum is a plain old vanilla villager, why doesn't he follow Lathum's advice? If Lathum's a vanilla villager, what in the hell makes him 99% sure that Fouts is an Avatar? I think they're both trying to clear themselves. I don't know why I'm doing this (Werewolf 101 -- keep your head low), but my instincts are screaming at me right now.

Vote Dubb.

saldana · 06-23-2006, 05:11 PM

vote fouts

i thought i had seen something that gave me reason to believe lathum, and was going to vote for alan, but if the test phrase was "i'm a vanilla villager" and it was true, then my theory is shot to shit, and i got nuthin.

Vince · 06-23-2006, 05:12 PM

What the f***. Again, this is something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY.

Well, I don't have time to change things, so I'm going to stay the course on my different direction. Good luck guys.

Fouts · 06-23-2006, 05:12 PM

Vote Alan T

Alan T · 06-23-2006, 05:12 PM

ok ok.. unvote Fouts

If I trust dubbs, he cleared Lathum. Lathum cleared Fouts... so I'll unvote

If Fouts ends up the mummy, Lathum lied and that means Dubbs lied

2 bad guys for 1 kill

Tyrith · 06-23-2006, 05:12 PM

The amount of activity in this game is pretty insane.

I really hope dubb is on our side, but I can't be convinced of it because we no longer have any way to verify his actions. If he is bad he could certainly try to snake us now. While I'm not advocating anything for today we can't forget dependent on how things go the next day or two. Alan has caused minor alarms in my head ever since his lathum vote yesterday; could have been innocent but could also have been a way of trying to swing our massive train around some other way with a minor push, so currently he's number one on my list for tomorrow. The only other person that I have any gut instinct against right now is Anxiety but I wonder how much of that is past history.

Alan T · 06-23-2006, 05:13 PM

I think this is a no brainer.. We have 3 people locked in now.

If Fouts is bad, it condemns Lathum and Dubbs. So its worth it to trust their word tonight and unvote him.

If he ends up being good, we have an avatar on our side.

06-23-2006, 04:43 PM	#2205
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	On the chart, you're forgetting the Pharaoh. Please don't forget me. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-23-2006, 04:44 PM	#2207
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I don't know how Lathum is so sure that Fouts is the avatar since he is a normal egyptian. I have to agree with Barkeep and just don't see how we could have two mystics. Just too much of an advantage for us IMO. Since Blade is dead, the only way Fouts could be entered into the game is by the Head Nec which means he is the mummy. Vote Fouts __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-23-2006, 04:45 PM	#2210
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Oops, now I'm on there. Never mind. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-23-2006, 04:48 PM	#2215
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Okay Bk, here's my detailed role list: Enchanter - I think there has to be an enchanter to counterbalance the Initiate. This is the one of the two (the other being the EG) I am most sure of. Healthy - This is a chincy little role with little to it, but considering how uber-powerful the disease ability of the Head Nec is, it makes sense to have at least one person who is a foil. Favored - A decently useful ability that saves you from danger once, but you don;t know it. The Necs know it, though, and can try to kill you again, or just ignore since you now have lost all of your abilities and they know it. Probably in the game. Elite Guard - Absolutely in the game, a vital role for the Egyptians. This is the only counter to the potential for Egyptians to multi-attack, and he is uber powerful without needed to guard himself, and this all seems like a great foil. Has to be in the game. I've already spoken to the High Priest. Seen nothing, heard nothing, no reason to believe he's here. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-23-2006, 04:50 PM	#2222
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I'm off for some food. I hope nobody else dies during the day. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-23-2006, 04:42 PM	#2203
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Bolded equals known. Blue equals good guy. Red equals bad guy. Italics is speculation, but likely true. 1. Bad guy C 2. Passacaglia - Ruling Class, killed Night 4 3. Bad guy D 4. Head Necro 5. Good egyptian role 6. Cronin - Explorer, lynched Day 2 7. Dubb -- soothsayer 8. Vanilla Egyptian (Sndvls?) 9. Path -- Pharoah 10. 11. 12. Coffee Warlord - Ruling Class Fanatic, killed himself Night 4 13. bulletsponge - Necromancer, lynched Day 4 14. 15. 16. Bek - Necromancer Initiate, lynched Day 3 17. Blade6119 - Mystic, Day kill Day 4 18. Swaggs - Ruling Class, lynched Day 1 19. 20. 21. 22.

06-23-2006, 04:48 PM	#2214
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So why do we trust dubb again? I know there was a good reason for it when he came out last time. Just don't remember what it was and asking here is simpler than looking at something 30 pages ago

06-23-2006, 04:49 PM	#2219
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I think it's very risky to let Fouts live unless we have really good evidence to the contrary because he WILL kill someone tonight if he's bad and we're probably gonna have the core of our voting block start to fly apart as the necros are bound to have some coordination by now.

06-23-2006, 04:50 PM	#2221
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ok, I tried to help. You guys don't want help. When two or more people die tonight, don't say I didn't warn you. I'm going to lunch.

06-23-2006, 04:52 PM	#2227
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I can't see any reason to move my vote from Fouts. Not worth the risk any other way. One question -- Dubb mentions that Lathum didn't come back with a powerful role. Did he come back with any kind of role? What exactly did you learn from the scan? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-23-2006, 04:55 PM	#2232
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Think what you may of me. I'm the one thats not claiming I know anything like Lathum was. I was wrong about Lathum on my feel, but it doesnt change what we do about Fouts. If Fouts really is an avatar then, I really suck this game anyways. I don't understand how Lathum knows Fouts is good if he is a common villager either unless its something that Barkeep mentioned earlier (brothers with someone who had something to do with Fouts being brought out). I think though that is a stretch, and Fouts is our kill today. Like I have said a hundred times, all I have to go on this game is my hunches, and I was right once and wrong once if we believe Dubbs (which I think we kind of have to since our current circle is built around him)

06-23-2006, 05:01 PM	#2238
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Disease gives two more days to cast votes than a mummy kill.

06-23-2006, 05:03 PM	#2239
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Dola, which I only mention because if there are people out there who know something that I do and I can help to clear them, it might behoove to let me know about that sooner than later. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-23-2006, 05:03 PM	#2240
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Should have known I couldn't have gotten the dola in. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

06-23-2006, 05:04 PM	#2241
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Updated votes as of Post #2239: Fouts - Alan T (1864), Qwikshot (1887), SnDvls (1893), Saldana (1904), Chubby (1928), Schmidty (1937), Kingfc (1956), Path (1967), Anxiety (2200), Dubb (2213) Alan T - Lathum (1912) I'll be leaving in about 30 minutes, so if people have requests/questions/actions/whatver between now and the deadline please bring them up ASAP.

06-23-2006, 05:09 PM	#2242
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, I didn't want to do this but... I am basicly a normal villegar but I have a small role. I am a scavenger and I have the option of twice during the game to loot the possesions of the person who was just killed. I couldn't help but loot blades possesions and without directly quoting my PM i found his notes. They were open to the third page of a spell and I was given the option to complete the spell with 66% success, if I failed I would have been cursed and only had 3 days to live. I figured I may as well try it, hence fouts. when he returnd from lunch I'm sure he will tell you it was I who sumoned him

06-23-2006, 05:09 PM	#2244
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	You could pencil Vince in as another vanilla villager. I got nothin'. Did I miss Lathum posting since Dubb has cleared him? What makes Lathum think that Fouts is the Avatar (I believe he said he was 99% sure Fouts is the Avatar)? It would be really f*ed if Dubb and Lathum were in cahoots... That being said, I have to go. If we trust Dubb, that makes Lathum a vanilla villager. He is 99% sure that Fouts is the Avatar, yet Dubb is still going to vote for Fouts. My conspiracy theory bad-guy-o-meter is going wild on this...if Dubb thinks (knows) that Lathum is a plain old vanilla villager, why doesn't he follow Lathum's advice? If Lathum's a vanilla villager, what in the hell makes him 99% sure that Fouts is an Avatar? I think they're both trying to clear themselves. I don't know why I'm doing this (Werewolf 101 -- keep your head low), but my instincts are screaming at me right now. Vote Dubb**. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-23-2006, 05:11 PM	#2245
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	vote fouts i thought i had seen something that gave me reason to believe lathum, and was going to vote for alan, but if the test phrase was "i'm a vanilla villager" and it was true, then my theory is shot to shit, and i got nuthin.

06-23-2006, 05:12 PM	#2246
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	What the f***. Again, this is something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY. Well, I don't have time to change things, so I'm going to stay the course on my different direction. Good luck guys. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-23-2006, 05:12 PM	#2247
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Vote Alan T

06-23-2006, 05:12 PM	#2248
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	ok ok.. unvote Fouts If I trust dubbs, he cleared Lathum. Lathum cleared Fouts... so I'll unvote If Fouts ends up the mummy, Lathum lied and that means Dubbs lied 2 bad guys for 1 kill

06-23-2006, 05:12 PM	#2249
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	The amount of activity in this game is pretty insane. I really hope dubb is on our side, but I can't be convinced of it because we no longer have any way to verify his actions. If he is bad he could certainly try to snake us now. While I'm not advocating anything for today we can't forget dependent on how things go the next day or two. Alan has caused minor alarms in my head ever since his lathum vote yesterday; could have been innocent but could also have been a way of trying to swing our massive train around some other way with a minor push, so currently he's number one on my list for tomorrow. The only other person that I have any gut instinct against right now is Anxiety but I wonder how much of that is past history.

06-23-2006, 05:13 PM	#2250
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I think this is a no brainer.. We have 3 people locked in now. If Fouts is bad, it condemns Lathum and Dubbs. So its worth it to trust their word tonight and unvote him. If he ends up being good, we have an avatar on our side.

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